Jamarra Ugle-Hagan is the next big thing

[Always Ballin]

I'm all aboard the hype train.

Jamarra has got the "it" factor — the superstar anthropometry. Tall, long-limbed, high brachial and crural indexes. Explosive athlete with a soft touch.

A natural athlete who's got a sixth sense.

"Ugle-Hagan is the most unstoppable inside-50 threat that I've seen for his age." - Chris Doerre, ESPN.

He'll be a 50+ goal guy very quickly. Bookmark this thread.

Deadly.

 

[Kappa]

He certainly seems to be a once in a generation talent, like O'Meara Boyd Patton Jack Martin

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Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

ect were.

Let the kid play first, please.

 

[RUNVS]

He certainly seems to be a once in a generation talent, like O'Meara Boyd Patton Jack Martin ect were.

Let the kid play first, please.

Yep. I remember some media personality saying years ago that Jack Martin was going to be the best player in the competition in a few years time (back in his early days after being drafted).

 

[Plugger35]

Tipping that the No,1 draft pick is going to be the next big thing, really going out on a limb there.

 

[Always Ballin]

Tipping that the No,1 draft pick is going to be the next big thing, really going out on a limb there.

Thanks.

 

[RUNVS]

Tipping that the No,1 draft pick is going to be the next big thing, really going out on a limb there.

and how often is the number 1 draft pick actually the best player even in his own draft. Has a number 1 draft pick ever been the best player in the competition?

 

[XhazzafootyX]

and how often is the number 1 draft pick actually the best player even in his own draft. Has a number 1 draft pick ever been the best player in the competition?

Luke Hodge and Nick Riewoldt probably would’ve been at some point in their career.

 

[spudmaster]

and how often is the number 1 draft pick actually the best player even in his own draft. Has a number 1 draft pick ever been the best player in the competition?

 

[RUNVS]

Luke Hodge and Nick Riewoldt probably would’ve been at some point in their career.

Both were very good no doubt, in fact they were great players, but it is very debatable as to whether or not either of them ever became the best player in the competition, especially when you consider they both played at the same time as guys like Judd, Ablett and Franklin.

 

[RUNVS]

Was he ever the best player in the competition though? I mean he was easily top 10 for a good portion of his career, but I don't think he was the best player.

 

[piesaregreat]

Assuming he doesnt do an ACL in the preseason
He is yet to play a game
Unrealistic expectations have ruined many players careers
He is potential
As a number one pick hard to fail by saying he could be anything

 

[CrowInFiji]

HE SHOULD BE A CROW RAAAAAAWWWR F U AFL WE MISSED OUT ON THE BIGFOOTY CERTIFIED NEXT BIG THING

 

[Toump Ass]

Was he ever the best player in the competition though?

He was the best in his draft, what else could you ask for. You can't get a generational talent every draft.

 

[RUNVS]

He was the best in his draft, what else could you ask for. You can't get a generational talent every draft.

Was he better than Judd?

Either way though this thread is suggesting JUH will be the best player in the competition one day, not the best in his draft.

 

[HaroLad]

Putting Hodge above GAJ or even Judd is legitimately the most deluded thing I have heard my entire life.

 

[spudmaster]

Putting Hodge above GAJ or even Judd is legitimately the most deluded thing I have heard my entire life.

True - their combined three premierships is almost as good as Hodgey's four.

 

[RUNVS]

True - their combined three premierships is almost as good as Hodgey's four.

Premierships don't matter in this discussion, otherwise we would view David Hale as a better player than Tony Lockett.

 

[gandaal]

and how often is the number 1 draft pick actually the best player even in his own draft. Has a number 1 draft pick ever been the best player in the competition?

Nick Riewoldt was for a year or two.

That's about it I think.

 

[aussierulesrules]

and how often is the number 1 draft pick actually the best player even in his own draft. Has a number 1 draft pick ever been the best player in the competition?

Nick was widely considered the best in the comp in 2004 (at just 21yo), the year he took a record 256 marks, kicked 67 goals (from CHF), came 7th in the Brownlow, and did the almost unthinkable and won a major award, despite not playing midfield (the AFLMVP).

 

[telsor]

Premierships don't matter in this discussion, otherwise we would view David Hale as a better player than Tony Lockett.

They're not the be all and end all, but they're certainly a factor.

Premiership players tend to be better 'team players' (teams win flags after all) and star premiership players tend to stand up in the big/important games...also a good way of assessing the best players.


I agree with your assessment that Hodge was probably a top 10 player for much of his career, but rarely if ever the out and out BEST player in the comp....but 4 flags do still matter in assessing his career.

 

[telsor]

Nick Riewoldt was for a year or two.

That's about it I think.

When?

 

[Toump Ass]

Was he better than Judd?

* oath.

 

[RUNVS]

They're not the be all and end all, but they're certainly a factor.

Premiership players tend to be better 'team players' (teams win flags after all) and star premiership players tend to stand up in the big/important games...also a good way of assessing the best players.


I agree with your assessment that Hodge was probably a top 10 player for much of his career, but rarely if ever the out and out BEST player in the comp....but 4 flags do still matter in assessing his career.

If anything I actually view the great players in poor teams a little more highly, someone like Nathan Jones who for basically his entire career was carrying Melbourne week in and week out, knowing that there was no hope of a flag or even finals and yet still putting in an amazing effort.

 

[telsor]

If anything I actually view the great players in poor teams a little more highly, someone like Nathan Jones who for basically his entire career was carrying Melbourne week in and week out, knowing that there was no hope of a flag or even finals and yet still putting in an amazing effort.

You play to win. (and ultimately, to win premierships)

To win you need a good team.

Your contribution to making your team better is a significant part of what makes a good/great player.


Jack Reiwoldt for example.
Early career, he got a few Coleman medals and as such must be regarded as one of the best forwards in the comp.
Later career, he put the team first, and even though he kicked fewer goals than he could have, those around him kicked more due to his help.

Later Jack is the better player. (and that change is a substantial part of why he now has 3 flags).

 

[gandaal]

When?

Probably 2008.

He won the AFLPA Player of the Year award in 2004, but I think 2008/9 was better.

That said, Gary Ablett was pretty special around that time too.