Confirmed James Aish [traded to Collingwood for #26 and St Kilda's 2016 second round pick]

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Then I guess I would rather he stay at Richmond because 39 for a player that only plays in the VFL is a fair trade it's a second round pick 17 or 21 isn't fair on Brisbane's end
Yeah fair enough.
He's got one more year on his contract. Personally I see him replacing Chaplin when he retires at the end of next year. If he had a good run at it he could take his place sooner.
I don't think handing over 31 and Astbury to the lions for 17 is an unfair trade, but if the lions don't want to give up 17 that's their right.
 

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Emma Quayle - she's pretty reliable.

Tom Bell to Brisbane
Aisho to Collngwood
2nd round pick to carlton.

I would think another 2nd rounder is going from Collingwood to Brisbane. I presume she just overlooked that. That probably secures Bastinac.
 

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Emma Quayle - she's pretty reliable.

Tom Bell to Brisbane
Aisho to Collngwood
2nd round pick to carlton.

I would think another 2nd rounder is going from Collingwood to Brisbane. I presume she just overlooked that. That probably secures Bastinac.
Think everyone would be happy with that, assuming you're right re the second 2nd round pick to the Lions.
 

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Emma Quayle - she's pretty reliable.

Tom Bell to Brisbane
Aisho to Collngwood
2nd round pick to carlton.

I would think another 2nd rounder is going from Collingwood to Brisbane. I presume she just overlooked that. That probably secures Bastinac.
Don't see any reason North would want another 2nd round pick, would likely want 17
 

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Lol your not serious surely
With 34,38 and 40 i cant see us interested in a 2nd round.

17 would be the only target that has reason.

Tigers probably the same, no desire to move Astbury if it doesn't help land Yarran.

Bris have some very good options at the moment, but it is also a house of cards, each trade will greatly effect the others. Must get it 100% right to land everything they want.
 

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Lol your not serious surely
Brisbane may pass on 17 if we can package Bastinac and a pick/picks that gets them points they need for academy players.

Pick 17 has no relevance to them if they are using it for academy players, it's all about points accumulation.

But I don't have a clue what they are planning to do?

Obviously if Aish is open to a move Bastinac has currency, but as stated I'm not sure we will want another 2nd rounder by itself? Maybe we are waiting to see what GC give for Currie, so we can give Bastinac and a package of picks that satisfies the Lions points requirements, so we can get 17 and back into the first round.
 
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Emma Quayle - she's pretty reliable.

Tom Bell to Brisbane
Aisho to Collngwood
2nd round pick to carlton.

I would think another 2nd rounder is going from Collingwood to Brisbane. I presume she just overlooked that. That probably secures Bastinac.
Think all parties would be pleased...really rate Aish highly, compliment pies mids, especially on top of getting treloar.


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I know it's a tad late to be asking this considering we're over 240 pages in and the topic is purely everyone's envy of Collingwood, players nominating us, points for academy players and phantom trades everyone seems to be throwing their two bobs in with, but can a Brisbane supporter, or even an avid Aish fan give a bit of an analysis into what kind of player Aish currently is, and what he could be? I ask because I've just realised, we might be giving up 2 picks for a kid of 32 games. Other than his publicised want to leave Brisbane, what's he like as a footballer on the field?
 

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There can be only one...
Emma Quayle - she's pretty reliable.

Tom Bell to Brisbane
Aisho to Collngwood
2nd round pick to carlton.

I would think another 2nd rounder is going from Collingwood to Brisbane. I presume she just overlooked that. That probably secures Bastinac.
So Aish for Tom Bell? What happened, did Aish die?
 

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With 34,38 and 40 i cant see us interested in a 2nd round.

17 would be the only target that has reason.

Tigers probably the same, no desire to move Astbury if it doesn't help land Yarran.

Bris have some very good options at the moment, but it is also a house of cards, each trade will greatly effect the others. Must get it 100% right to land everything they want.
As long as we have more then enough points for the Acedemy boys and we can land Astbury, Bastinac, Bell, I don't mind giving North Melbourne pick 17. Picks are overrated.
 

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Brisbane may pass on 17 if we can package Bastinac and a pick/picks that gets them points they need for academy players.

Pick 17 has no relevance to them if they are using it for academy players, it's all about points accumulation.

But I don't have a clue what they are planning to do?

Obviously if Aish is open to a move Bastinac has currency, but as stated I'm not sure we will want another 2nd rounder by itself? Maybe we are waiting to see what GC give for Currie, so we can give Bastinac and a package of picks that satisfies the Lions points requirements, so we can get 17 and back into the first round.
In the Age today Aish's manager reiterating his client is only considering Collingwood.
 

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Brisbane may pass on 17 if we can package Bastinac and a pick/picks that gets them points they need for academy players.

Pick 17 has no relevance to them if they are using it for academy players, it's all about points accumulation.

But I don't have a clue what they are planning to do?

Obviously if Aish is open to a move Bastinac has currency, but as stated I'm not sure we will want another 2nd rounder by itself? Maybe we are waiting to see what GC give for Currie, so we can give Bastinac and a package of picks that satisfies the Lions points requirements, so we can get 17 and back into the first round.
I can see us offering 17 or 21 in a trade that nets us Bastinac plus some of those 36-40 picks that you're accumulating.

I have a feeling that Bastinac might be the odd man out in this recruiting spree we're doing though. He seems to be a late addition and it may well be that we don't have the list spots given the draft to come.

I know it's a tad late to be asking this considering we're over 240 pages in and the topic is purely everyone's envy of Collingwood, players nominating us, points for academy players and phantom trades everyone seems to be throwing their two bobs in with, but can a Brisbane supporter, or even an avid Aish fan give a bit of an analysis into what kind of player Aish currently is, and what he could be? I ask because I've just realised, we might be giving up 2 picks for a kid of 32 games. Other than his publicised want to leave Brisbane, what's he like as a footballer on the field?
I've seen a fair bit - a few of his U18 games and then his Lions games obviously. He doesn't really have a weapon and I wouldn't consider him elite in any particular respect but he's almost certain to rack up 200 games and look pretty good doing so as he's also got very few knocks on him. His best role to date is really spreading the ball from a contest or out on a wing, as he's had reasonable endurance for a rookie/second year player. Don't bother throwing him inside. A bit weedy but again - rookie/second year. The best Lions' comparisons I can think of are Simon Black minus his fantastic in and under work, or Redden minus his tackling but with more aggressive and better disposal. Aish just knows how to play football.
 
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I can see us offering 17 or 21 in a trade that nets us Bastinac plus some of those 36-40 picks that you're accumulating.

I have a feeling that Bastinac might be the odd man out in this recruiting spree we're doing though. He seems to be a late addition and it may well be that we don't have the list spots given the draft to come.
I think if the Walker deal goes through we'll see someone like Paine being delisted to free up room...And wouldnt be surprised to see a shock exit to Geelong or Carlton in the trades...Who knows, its all a bit crazy this trade period...
 

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Emma Quayle - she's pretty reliable.

Tom Bell to Brisbane
Aisho to Collngwood
2nd round pick to carlton.

I would think another 2nd rounder is going from Collingwood to Brisbane. I presume she just overlooked that. That probably secures Bastinac.
Apparently Liam Pickering has said the same thing as Emma Quayle this morning on radio (I didn't hear it but it was on SEN so they may put up audio of it later).
 
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Well, at least Tom Bell wants to be here at least, even if its for unfortunate circumstances. Wonder if that 2nd will be the 28 that Collingwood want from Adelaide or their other second. Would'nt be the one from the Freeman trade you'd think.
 

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Well, at least Tom Bell wants to be here at least, even if its for unfortunate circumstances. Wonder if that 2nd will be the 28 that Collingwood want from Adelaide or their other second. Would'nt be the one from the Freeman trade you'd think.
This is a little bit side tracked - but can I ask what happened to Brisbane saying they wouldn't trade Aish at all? After all that to get a 2nd round pick only, I would be ropeable.
 
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This is a little bit side tracked - but can I ask what happened to Brisbane saying they wouldn't trade Aish at all? After all that to get a 2nd round pick only, I would be ropeable.
Who knows whats been said in the background. Things change in the trade period. As the example that is brought up quite a bit, and I know we dont like mentioning the B word here...but last year, Collingwood set a 5pm Friday deadline that was "If we dont get what we want from Beams from Brisbane by this time, we'll be looking to trade Beams elsewhere."

And in the end he got here.

Honestly, no one can really say whats happened internally. Leigh made his stance clear, Swan agreed, we got torched in the media for being cruel and heartless...Maybe the AFL had a word to us? Maybe the Players Association? Maybe even Leigh spoke with Aish and softened his approach?

The complications of the Academy picks now has probably also influenced this. And of course if the trade involves Tom Bell in any way then that would make sense why we softened our stance.
 

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This is a little bit side tracked - but can I ask what happened to Brisbane saying they wouldn't trade Aish at all? After all that to get a 2nd round pick only, I would be ropeable.
Probably the same thing that happens every year when clubs insist that player X is a required player, only to end up trading them - the club got offered a reasonable deal instead of just cents on the dollar.
 

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This is a little bit side tracked - but can I ask what happened to Brisbane saying they wouldn't trade Aish at all? After all that to get a 2nd round pick only, I would be ropeable.
Pretty much they decided to go for Bell, Bastinac and Astbury.

Those choices require more picks, Aish was the way to get those required picks.

Now it suits Bris to trade, they are not being forced to!

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Probably the same thing that happens every year when clubs insist that player X is a required player, only to end up trading them - the club got offered a reasonable deal instead of just cents on the dollar.
No, this is different. Matthews spoke to Aish directly, telling him 'it's us or the draft', he wasn't speaking to Collingwood at the time but trying to make a stance to young players that they won't be able to leave Brisbane easily after two years.

Looks like it there was a lack of alignment on the stance and strategy between your board director / ceo / list manager as the media is now discussing potential trades and saying the negotiations are open.
 

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No, this is different. Matthews spoke to Aish directly, telling him 'it's us or the draft', he wasn't speaking to Collingwood at the time but trying to make a stance to young players that they won't be able to leave Brisbane easily after two years.

Looks like it there was a lack of alignment on the stance and strategy between your board director / ceo / list manager as the media is now discussing potential trades and saying the negotiations are open.
Sorry, I was wrong. Yes, it's a conspiracy theory where Brisbane is backflipping and miscommunicating and we're different from every other club. How could that have slipped my mind?
 
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