Player Watch James Aish

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He had a decent first and 4th quarter went quiet in between but given his ToG was only 67% that may explain his absence as he literally was not on the field for a quarter and a half.
He does go missing and he has to improve in that area...........ability only takes you so far.........being consistent is so much harder.

Interesting year coming up for him.
 

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if aish was on the pine a lot in the 2nd and 3rd, very hard to use the ball and be effective.
see what happens next game if plays with a lot more minutes, before saying he will not
be in the round one team
 

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If anyone has ever played conpetitive sport they'll understand the Aish predicament. I think he's got a lot going for him.. its the team dynamics that may see him not playing to his potential. Perhaps he'd like more responsibility. Players do clash in a team.. it's just a matter of finding where he's at.. and that involves giving him more responsibility.
 

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That's definitely a fair assessment. But the problem Aish faces is that there are numerous players better at doing his best role than what he is. Aish needs to get better at doing the other roles. There are naturally going to be injuries, that's when he can step up like he did at the end of last season. But until then he needs to justify his place in the team in other ways.
Its this. There's players ahead of him so he needs to step up to force them out or perform better in peripheral roles. I don't see how that's the coaching group's fault with his form supremely average ATM. No need to delist he just needs to work harder.
 

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Its this. There's players ahead of him so he needs to step up to force them out or perform better in peripheral roles. I don't see how that's the coaching group's fault with his form supremely average ATM. No need to delist he just needs to work harder.
Who said he not working Hard? He is lot move Involved in Games then he was Early Last Season.

Though when we Traded Aish in. Did we need to IF we already had quite a Few Similar Position Players?
 

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Who said he not working Hard? He is lot move Involved in Games then he was Early Last Season.

Though when we Traded Aish in. Did we need to IF we already had quite a Few Similar Position Players?
Me. His numbers are average for someone of his ability. Guys that work hard enough are involved consistently throughout games, IMO, and he isn't currently ala WHE. You could learn a lot from the concept of tough love.

We were right to trade him in, we won't be trading him out and he needs to do more. Its really that simple.
 

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Me. His numbers are average for someone of his ability. Guys that work hard enough are involved consistently throughout games, IMO, and he isn't currently ala WHE. You could learn a lot from the concept of tough love..
So you think Aish could be a Lazy Player who just lives off his Potential?
 

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If anyone has ever played conpetitive sport they'll understand the Aish predicament. I think he's got a lot going for him.. its the team dynamics that may see him not playing to his potential. Perhaps he'd like more responsibility. Players do clash in a team.. it's just a matter of finding where he's at.. and that involves giving him more responsibility.
If he's not in the seniors round 1, could be as simple as there are 22 players ahead of him all things considered
 

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Me. His numbers are average for someone of his ability. Guys that work hard enough are involved consistently throughout games, IMO, and he isn't currently ala WHE. You could learn a lot from the concept of tough love.

We were right to trade him in, we won't be trading him out and he needs to do more. Its really that simple.
Spot on.
He showed late last year what he is capable of but not sure his work rate what it could be.
I have been watching him closely and he is winning footy in heavy traffic and the ball hasnt been delivered to him well. He just needs to keep working. Certainly dont think playing him in defence is the answer. He is a victim of it being hard to get into the mid rotation.
 
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Aish is an accumulator he is not an explosive type, not someone who will break a game open. He needs to be super fit and strong and be around the contest feeding it out to the line breakers etc. There has been a misconception that he is an outside type but he is not.

He does most things nicely but nothing is elite. Reminds me a bit of Luke Ball.
 

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The real stuff is all that matters, but I was surprised so many people were won over by Aish on the back of his late season form.
It was much improved, but I wouldn't say it was amazing. Add that to his woeful form at the start of last season, and he is definitely on the fringe of the team. Tom Phillips types will take his spot if he doesn't come good.
I get the feeling we need to find a niche position for him - I think we have better options on the wing, he isn't good enough to play in the middle, backline - can he defend? It helps him find the ball. Forward nope.
 

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The real stuff is all that matters, but I was surprised so many people were won over by Aish on the back of his late season form.
It was much improved, but I wouldn't say it was amazing. Add that to his woeful form at the start of last season, and he is definitely on the fringe of the team. Tom Phillips types will take his spot if he doesn't come good.
I get the feeling we need to find a niche position for him - I think we have better options on the wing, he isn't good enough to play in the middle, backline - can he defend? It helps him find the ball. Forward nope.
So you say Aish is Super Overrated?
 

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The real stuff is all that matters, but I was surprised so many people were won over by Aish on the back of his late season form.
It was much improved, but I wouldn't say it was amazing. Add that to his woeful form at the start of last season, and he is definitely on the fringe of the team. Tom Phillips types will take his spot if he doesn't come good.
I get the feeling we need to find a niche position for him - I think we have better options on the wing, he isn't good enough to play in the middle, backline - can he defend? It helps him find the ball. Forward nope.
In fairness he did have a few really good games. He was marking well, and hitting the scoreboard as well. And these were against good team.

I share the view of a few others here though that he just isn't in our best 10 mids right now, so he needs to forge a role across half back...or dominate in the VFL in the middle until a spot opens.

I don't know if it's his work-rate, but he does seem to be a confidence player. He doesn't like entirely comfortable in his role yet. From all I've heard about Aish, he is a super professional athlete that works really hard. I just think sometimes he holds back to let the more senior guys do the leg work. He just needs the confidence to back himself. I think confidence is linked with work-rate. When you have your confidence up, you go for everything. When it's down, then you don't work as hard because you aren't trusting yourself.

I think he is talented enough to make the grade.
 

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In fairness he did have a few really good games. He was marking well, and hitting the scoreboard as well. And these were against good team.

I share the view of a few others here though that he just isn't in our best 10 mids right now, so he needs to forge a role across half back...or dominate in the VFL in the middle until a spot opens.

I don't know if it's his work-rate, but he does seem to be a confidence player. He doesn't like entirely comfortable in his role yet. From all I've heard about Aish, he is a super professional athlete that works really hard. I just think sometimes he holds back to let the more senior guys do the leg work. He just needs the confidence to back himself. I think confidence is linked with work-rate. When you have your confidence up, you go for everything. When it's down, then you don't work as hard because you aren't trusting yourself.

I think he is talented enough to make the grade.
I do get that Feeling Too the he might Respect the Older players to Much as he gives them the Ball Normally IF they are Close. So he needs to Believe bit more in himself at AFL Level. I do think espically at the Moment he is a Confidence Player. Do a Few Good Things Early and he can have a Big Game.

As I said I think he has Big Time Potential it's just a Matter of Hopefully Unlocking it
 

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but you reckon he does not work Hard Enough?
Yep, just because you could work harder does not necessarily mean you're lazy there is grey in the discussion. I bet if you asked Aish how hard he works he'd say bloody hard, but if he and Treloar came to the bench at the same time I guarantee Treloar would be more puffed.

I don't have the solution, and I think its up to Aish to figure it out himself, but if he does he'll come on. Until then though he's no certainty to be in our best 22.
 

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Spot on.
He showed late last year what he is capable of but not sure his work rate what it could be.
I have been watching him closely and he is winning footy in heavy traffic and the ball hasnt been delivered to him well. He just needs to keep working. Certainly dont think playing him in defence is the answer. He is a victim of it being hard to get into the mid rotation.
It's difficult. But we're not exactly prospering at the centre clearances. Perhaps Buckley should throw him an opportunity. Problem is he's done nothing to really stick his hand up for it.
 
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