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It's difficult. But we're not exactly prospering at the centre clearances. Perhaps Buckley should throw him an opportunity. Problem is he's done nothing to really stick his hand up for it.
Well it could be Bucks does not Rate Aish as Highly as Hine. There where Rumors that Bucks was not Keen on Aish but Hine was and he did the Trade.

I reckon with Aish's Instincts he would help at Ruck Contests
 

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Well it could be Bucks does not Rate Aish as Highly as Hine. There where Rumors that Bucks was not Keen on Aish but Hine was and he did the Trade.

I reckon with Aish's Instincts he would help at Ruck Contests
Don't bring those rumours into the discussion. Fact is Aish hasn't really done enough to deserve a guernsey on ball. It would be a leap of faith based on our poor centre clearance performance and Aish's potential; but not his performances to date.
 

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Don't bring those rumours into the discussion. Fact is Aish hasn't really done enough to deserve a guernsey on ball. It would be a leap of faith based on our poor centre clearance performance and Aish's potential; but not his performances to date.
Didn't JT get On-Ball time when he came on and He has done nothing for 2 Seasons because of being a Drug Cheat.

Maybe putting some Faith in him might make him play better
 

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Well it could be Bucks does not Rate Aish as Highly as Hine. There where Rumors that Bucks was not Keen on Aish but Hine was and he did the Trade.

I reckon with Aish's Instincts he would help at Ruck Contests
Those rumours were garbage Dave. Aish himself said that he made his decision to come to Collingwood after meeting with Buckley. You don't request a trade to a club based off a meeting with a coach who doesn't want you.
 
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Didn't JT get On-Ball time when he came on and He has done nothing for 2 Seasons because of being a Drug Cheat.

Maybe putting some Faith in him might make him play better
Thomas barely got a quarter of game time Dave. He's not the player you want to use as an example when you're claiming lack of opportunity for Aish.
 

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But he had more On-Ball Time then Aish.

What do people think of Blair getting more time then Aish?
I think they were played on ball because they're both far more limited players than Aish and would be useless on the outside.

Honestly Dave, they're not starving Aish of opportunity, they're just playing the players at their disposal in the positions they feel are the most beneficial to the team.
 

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But he had more On-Ball Time then Aish.

What do people think of Blair getting more time then Aish?
I'd agree Aish should be ahead of both Thomas and Blair for on-ball minutes. I don't think either of those two have been given extensive time there, so it's a bit of a tenuous argument. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems you're searching for an explanation why Aish isn't on ball because you rate Aish so highly yourself; but I think the reality is that Aish hasn't earned that role because he isn't yet performing well enough to justify it. I think it's purely a performance thing to date with with Aish, nothing more sinister.
 

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I'd agree Aish should be ahead of both Thomas and Blair for on-ball minutes. I don't think either of those two have been given extensive time there, so it's a bit of a tenuous argument. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems you're searching for an explanation why Aish isn't on ball because you rate Aish so highly yourself; but I think the reality is that Aish hasn't earned that role because he isn't yet performing well enough to justify it. I think it's purely a performance thing to date with with Aish, nothing more sinister.
But How will Prove he be able to play On-Ball when playing on the Flanks mostly?
 

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If he's not in the seniors round 1, could be as simple as there are 22 players ahead of him all things considered
Of course.. but I'll use the Wellingham example agst North a few yrs back where we had Swan and Pendlebury on the sidelines. Malthouse threw Wellingham into the guts and he amased 40 possessions.

It's easy to use your best 22 analogy as a black and white example. It's a lot more deepseated than that in my opinion.
 
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Of course.. but I'll use the Willingham example agst North a few yrs back where we had Swan and Pendlebury on the sidelines. Malthouse threw Wellingham into the guts and he amounted 40 possessions.

It's easy to use your best 22 analogy as a black and white example. It's a lot more deepseated than that in my opinion.
That was deep
 

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I do get that Feeling Too the he might Respect the Older players to Much as he gives them the Ball Normally IF they are Close. So he needs to Believe bit more in himself at AFL Level. I do think espically at the Moment he is a Confidence Player. Do a Few Good Things Early and he can have a Big Game.

As I said I think he has Big Time Potential it's just a Matter of Hopefully Unlocking it
Dave, I reckon you are 100% right, and was very much what I was trying to say.

Sometimes he just takes a very easy option or handballs to someone more experiences, when at times he could take the initiative himself.

I reckon he works hard, and I've never seen him shirk a contest. He has taken some great marks and he puts his head over it. It's more about having the self confidence to run that extra yard or leave his man, or back himself to take on the workload.

I think he is in his head a lot. He wants to do the right thing all the time, but sometimes he needs to take more risks.

I like him a lot and reckon he is going to develop nicely.

If you compare his late season form to his early season, it shows how far he came in 1 year. The only issue is that I was hoping he would have a super pre-season and cement himself in the best 22. He seems to have stagnated.
 

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If you compare his late season form to his early season, it shows how far he came in 1 year. The only issue is that I was hoping he would have a super pre-season and cement himself in the best 22. He seems to have stagnated.
Well I guess we not seen a Improvement since end of last season is True at the Moment. As you never heard about Aish during Pre-Season Reports.

Though started to do some good things in the 4th Qtr. So Hopefully that gets him out of the Possible Rut he been over the Pre-Season
 

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From what I saw on saturday he was given a defensive role. He laid some nice tackles and a few times would have to have done something miraculous to stop Freo getting over the top. Not much ball went through his hands as his stats suggest but didn't see him waste it! You wonder what role the coaching staff has in mind for him. Personally speaking he does his best work around the contest and can snap a goal in blink of an eye. He is a pure midfielder inside or outside take your pick but for now while he develops his body strength Id play him as attacking flanker.
 

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From what I saw on saturday he was given a defensive role. He laid some nice tackles and a few times would have to have done something miraculous to stop Freo getting over the top. Not much ball went through his hands as his stats suggest but didn't see him waste it! You wonder what role the coaching staff has in mind for him. Personally speaking he does his best work around the contest and can snap a goal in blink of an eye. He is a pure midfielder inside or outside take your pick but for now while he develops his body strength Id play him as attacking flanker.
100% Agree Aish does not waste many Touches with the Ball. Which other Players have Been Guilty Of.

I agree he is a Purer Mid but Looks like Club is Sending him Back for most likely learn a bit Defensive Side of the Game but I agree he is better Attacking then Defending
 

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Of course.. but I'll use the Wellingham example agst North a few yrs back where we had Swan and Pendlebury on the sidelines. Malthouse threw Wellingham into the guts and he amased 40 possessions.

It's easy to use your best 22 analogy as a black and white example. It's a lot more deepseated than that in my opinion.
I think it was against Melbourne
 

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Of course.. but I'll use the Wellingham example agst North a few yrs back where we had Swan and Pendlebury on the sidelines. Malthouse threw Wellingham into the guts and he amased 40 possessions.

It's easy to use your best 22 analogy as a black and white example. It's a lot more deepseated than that in my opinion.
That is what I am been Trying to say.

Put Aish in the Guts and same thing could Happen
 

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I posted earlier in the thread that I consider Aish to be a well balanced mid and that I liked to see four of those types selected in the 22. I'd consider Aish to be the fifth in line for one of those spots. Now that Wells is injured and the players I'd have behind Aish(Wills, Broomhead, Sier) have to my knowledge yet to play a preseason game, I'd think he would need to put in one hell of a stinker to not be picked for round one.

On his indifferent form in the two games so far, from what little I've seen I don't believe he played the same role for any extended period of time except for a stint in defense on the weekend which in my opinion he is not well suited to anyway. Last year he played his best football when he had continuity in his role, focusing on just playing football and not where he was supposed to be and what he should be doing there. Hopefully once the season proper starts he will get that and he can pick up where he left off last season.
 

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But How will Prove he be able to play On-Ball when playing on the Flanks mostly?
In the VFL or from the wing with stints on ball. At AFL level I think Aish needs to start from the wing. But we seem to prefer Sidebottom and Crisp there right now and that's not counting Wells or Varcoe. I'd love to see Buckley try Sidebottom more permanently on the half forward flank which would open up a wing position.
 
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