Solved James Bulger Killing

[blackcat]

I'm not sure I can agree with it either, but this murder just goes against everything that it takes to live in society. Truly terrible, one of the worst in recent years.

your premise is a ten or nine year old can commit murder. or you have a definition of murder that precludes sentience for mens rea

 

[sprockets]

http://www.news.com.au/world/james-...y/news-story/aa0310b86307358d8204f6ef94a76999

 

[rdhopkins2]

What a sack of shit of a person.
Hopefully this time he doesn't get back out .

 

[thejockey]

Its chilling footage watching them lead him away

A guy I lived with in England's cousin worked on the case , cant remember exactly what capacity but was never the same after hearing the full details

 

[Wheatbelt]

Is evil something one gains with time?

Really interesting question

 

[Macca_1870]

James' mother Denise Fergus has released a book - "I let him go".

I read an extract from the book last night. I wasn't aware that her first child, Kirsty, was a stillborn, delivered in 1989. James was her 2nd child born in 1990.

From what happened to her between 1989 and 1993, to pick herself up and get to where she has in setting up the James Bulger Memorial Trust- it is truly inspiring. Most people would have completely crumbled after losing 1 child, let alone 2.

 

[typeclub]

It's funny I always had him pegged as the less evil of the two.

He could well be. The other one has just gone on like nothing happened.

 

[Leon]

I remember watching a doco on this case (can't remember the name) where they interviewed the detectives that did the initial interviews with Thompson and Venables.

They basically said that the theory that "One child was worse than the other, the other was manipulated/led into it etc" theories are complete rubbish, that they're both as bad as each other, cold, calculating psychos even at age 11 who knew exactly what they were doing.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Venables jailed for 40 months (3 years, 4 months), which closely coincides with the 25th anniversary of James' death.

http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/07/jon-v...ths-owning-paedo-manual-abuse-images-7293849/

 

[Full Credit]

Gotta love the dumbarse outrage brigade all over facebook completely non-ironically advocating to lock him in a room and torture him to death etc etc. Obviously the justice system is far from perfect but any alternative is a scary scary prospect.

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[ioppolo]

Was Venables abused as a child?

 

[Full Credit]

Was Venables abused as a child?

By all accounts no, Thompson was though.

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[ioppolo]

Venables is just an outright monster. Scary shit.

 

[Teagueeee15]

Gotta love the dumbarse outrage brigade all over facebook completely non-ironically advocating to lock him in a room and torture him to death etc etc. Obviously the justice system is far from perfect but any alternative is a scary scary prospect.

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I’ve followed this case in the news for some time and the lynchmob went into overdrive over the weekend, after somebody obtained the current name, numerous photos and the location of one of the perpetrators and posted it on social media.

 

[Leon]

I’ve followed this case in the news for some time and the lynchmob went into overdrive over the weekend, after somebody obtained the current name, numerous photos and the location of one of the perpetrators and posted it on social media.

Venables again?

 

[blackcat]

Venables again?

Ordinary association football national team coach

 

[Kurve]

Channel 9 special on James Bulger tonight.

James Bulger: The New Revelations


9:40PM - 10:45PM

Twenty-five years after the verdict in the Jamie Bulger murder trial, we reveal what the jury, public and press never heard, and what his two killers, Thompson and Venables, said during their time in custody from arrest to release.

 

[Leon]

Ordinary association football national team coach

Yeah, should have parked the bus later on in that Iran game in 1997.

Channel 9 special on James Bulger tonight.

James Bulger: The New Revelations


9:40PM - 10:45PM

Twenty-five years after the verdict in the Jamie Bulger murder trial, we reveal what the jury, public and press never heard, and what his two killers, Thompson and Venables, said during their time in custody from arrest to release.

Missed it, anything interesting?

 

[tandino]

Yeah, should have parked the bus later on in that Iran game in 1997.

Too soon.

 

[Kurve]

Yeah, should have parked the bus later on in that Iran game in 1997.






Missed it, anything interesting?

It was interesting in that we saw some, not a lot of their psyche evaluations over a period of time after sentencing and expert observations of guilt through the trial which to me came over as possibly quite clever creation a child psychologist might be obliged to fall for. Some abuse in the boys childhoods, nothing that I'd think would account for the levels of depravity they exhibited in torturing and killing James. One of the boys, I don't remember which one had a little brother that looked very much like James so that was something I didn't know, jealousy maybe.

One was not stronger than the other in personality, there was no leader as we might have previously thought it was said. Just the particular elements of their characters coming together made it possible.

Rotten kids.

 

[blackcat]

Missed it, anything interesting?

its called <click bait>

what happened after Zuckerberg BrinPage TimBernersLee and Bernays*, we get the atomisation and disintegration of media ad revenues which is direct result in the haemmorhaging of the income and death of the business model of the fourth estate,

> fourth estate then undermines its product, content transforms from fact and news based article, to opinion and controversy and scandal and presenting an emotive interpretation on zeitgeist content. click bait produces hits, drives a maintenance* of eyeballs and consumers. (*ceteris paribus maintaining what readers they can hold onto in any way shape or means)

> we have the PBS radio, the American version of our ABC, form the drama Serial, which they sold to us as true crime, solving an injustice, basically a tail-wagging-the-dog when they confected controversy for a radio product. This has been a boon to the true crime tv and literature genre just like Truman Capote was with Cold Blood. All it is is media economic gravity finding investment product to pool their funds for a ROI.


https://iview.abc.net.au/show/mix
skilts

 

[Belushi Brassiere]

If James had been a baby/toddler girl, would the public reaction to the murderers have been even worse or about the same?

 

[sprockets]

If James had been a baby/toddler girl, would the public reaction to the murderers have been even worse or about the same?

Is that important?

 

[Belushi Brassiere]

The image of a very young baby-toddler girl is different to that of a baby-toddler boy. Boys are expected to be "little men" even when they are James's age. So yes, a world where James was a baby girl called "Jamie Lynn" and was still murdered might have more effects on British society.

I can see a stronger reaction, more intense public hatred of the murderers and more and stronger laws if it was a baby-toddler girl that was sadistically murdered by Thompson and Venables. I also can't see them being released as early - if at all - if they had killed a baby girl.

 

[Kurve]

If James had been a baby/toddler girl, would the public reaction to the murderers have been even worse or about the same?

Same, it's not about James's gender.