James Fantasia & John Reid

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in autistic whitey's 1950 world-view/bomb-shelter that Romulans would probably be the Japanese or something, Vulcans the Chinese, Ferenghi Jewish, Cardassians Arabs..

I mean, c'mon, like, the Klingons (blacks) and the Federation (whites) duked it out a while back but are now more or less on the same side?!
 

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Please do not pass on all of the buck to the recruiting department. They can only offer names and in the end it is the coach and the match committee that decide on the way in which the club drafts.

We need to realise after all that we have made the semi- finals in the last two years.

it looks as though we have recruited quite well - Watts, Kreuger, Hudson, Andrews and with an eye for creating a spine for the future.

Lets not implode like the poor teams from Victoria. We have made some errors, but it is difficult to always be right when there are so many factors at work when selecting players. We are now on the right track and looking at the long term future. Without a good spine you are knackered.

Well said, James works his ass off for the club, and at the end of the day he does not make the final decision on who gets picked. It involves a great deal of work putting it all together as there are thousands of kids out there to choose from, and it takes a few people to look at them all, but he gets the stats and the whole group would look at the draft list

If you ditch him then who else is available to take his place

IF WE ARE GOING TO THROW SOME MUD WHY NOT GET RID OF JARMAN AS A SKILLS COACH AS THE CROWS CANT KICK AT GOALS FOR LOVE OR MONEY""""" He may have been a great footballer but his credability at coaching is not showing much in the way of results


I would get rid of Ayres as if you cant win a flag after 5 years then its time for someone else to have a go, and based on the fact that the list is ageing its time for a 2 year rebuild anyway. Give someone like Gary Odonel a go from Brisbane etc
 

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#28
Originally posted by vacekadelaide
i mean...gone into the line up and seemed to fit in straight away, as if he had always been there.
ummm...

that's not really a sensible way of looking at recruitment.
not all players are recruited at the same level of development.

Jericho and Hentschel as examples needed obvious amounts of time before they could really step up, if for no other reason than body maturity. that makes them neither good nor bad selections.
 

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Originally posted by bigman
I can assure you it is often the coach. A number of years ago Adelaide picked Eugene Warrior, because the coach at the time wanted "some black magic" after the game played by Michael Long for Essendon in the 1993 Grand Final.

Please do not pass on all of the buck to the recruiting department. They can only offer names and in the end it is the coach and the match committee that decide on the way in which the club drafts. In 2002 for example there were many good names around, but we decided on capitalizing on our maturing list, by getting Carey, Begley, Torney and of course Burns. It did not produce a premiership, but it was proabably worth the risk. WE would all be laughing now if it worked and saying what Einsteins the AFC were.

We need to realise after all that we have made the semi- finals in the last two years.

Our recruiting changed direction this year after the Carey experiment clearly showed it was not going to be as successful as first thought. it looks as though we have recruited quite well - Watts, Kreuger, Hudson, Andrews and with an eye for creating a spine for the future.

Lets also not forget we recruited Jericho at number 32 in the 2003 draft with our first pick at number 32 and that we picked up Hentschell in the pre-season draft earlier that year. A good effort I would suggest.

Lets not implode like the poor teams from Victoria. We have made some errors, but it is difficult to always be right when there are so many factors at work when selecting players. We are now on the right track and looking at the long term future. Without a good spine you are knackered.
Good post, couldn't agree with you more on the need for a decent spine which along with a settled defense in place are the ingredients for long term success.

Can't go along with all this nonsense of throwing out just about all the coaching/football/recruiting staff in one hit :( we would be the laughing stock of the AFL ,

Hope you guys who are pushing this line of thought can come up with some names ( & i mean realistic ones not the names that you would put in to your Xmas stocking) to replace the ones that there at the moment ?????
 

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Hope you guys who are pushing this line of thought can come up with some names ( & i mean realistic ones not the names that you would put in to your Xmas stocking) to replace the ones that there at the moment ?????

Well said, as I have said previously if Ayres cant win a flag in 5 years it may be time for him to go, and maybe Reid as well.

We will have to rebuild over this year and maybe the next 2 years but I hope we dont stick with the same coach


Dicko

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I don't think Sticks would want to leave Carlton and you are right Kane Paul Hamilton is the odd one out.

Assistant coaches look good.

I was thinking about this a bit lately. Since we are in a rebuilding period would it be smart to have as many as 5 assistant coaches.

1 Ruckman coach (Rehn)
1 Midfield coach (Craig)
1 Forward Line Coach (??????)
1 Backline coach (??????)
1 Skills/junior development coach (Jarman)

The Skills/Junior Development is crutial IMHO. Since we are in rebuilding stages I would appoint a full time coach to spend a lot of time with youngsters to "fast track" and assist them with their development.

Thoughts??????
 

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#35
Originally posted by Jars458
Coach - Paul Roos/Garry O'Donnell/Paul Hamilton

Football Manager - Stephen Kernahan

Assitant Coaches

Darren Jarman
Shaun Rehn
Neil Craig
You didn't mention a replacement for James Fantasia.

If we was to replace Gary Ayres next year Gary O'Donnell would definitely be my first choice, would be wishful thinking regards Paul Roos.

As for ass coaches a new coach would normally bring in his own team but if Ayresy was to remain as senior coach for next year then i would like to see a couple of new faces in the box preferably from a different club culture than our own & who are not to long out of the game as AFL players.
 

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Recruiting Manager could be Kylie Minogue

All the young boys would be gagging to come to the Crows then:D

I just have a hunch Paul Hamilton would be an excellent coach.

Rehn could do junior development as he is great with the kids at West

A defensive coach is all we are missing - Mark Thompson or D Frawley may be free!!!
 

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#38
Originally posted by Stiffy_18

The Skills/Junior Development is crutial IMHO. Since we are in rebuilding stages I would appoint a full time coach to spend a lot of time with youngsters to "fast track" and assist them with their development.

Thoughts??????
That's a crucial role and to the best of my knowledge one of our shortfalls at the moment.

Good suggestion Stiffy!!

Jars458's suggestion Of Rhen is an absolute ripper of a suggestion. Not only do we get the benefits via the development of the juniors, we get Rhen into the fold and a chance for him to grow at AFL level - possibly to ultimately be the head coach of the Crows.
 

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Originally posted by macca23
That's a crucial role and to the best of my knowledge one of our shortfalls at the moment.

Good suggestion Stiffy!!

Jars458's suggestion Of Rhen is an absolute ripper of a suggestion. Not only do we get the benefits via the development of the juniors, we get Rhen into the fold and a chance for him to grow at AFL level - possibly to ultimately be the head coach of the Crows.
Mark Mickan is responsible for Junior development ATM.

I would absolutely LOVE Rehny as part of the coaching set up either as a ruck coach or junior development. Either way i am not fussed. Maybe he can do both. Rucking coach is probably not a full time job anyway.
 
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