Nostradamus Lives James Frawley- on the move? All rumours in here!

[the_interloper]

He's yours then cos that's overs IMO.

Exactly, if the Tiges paid this much for him I'd be filthy, just as I was when we did similar for Gaspar.

 

[AM]

Seems Freo are into to him.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...les-headquarters/story-fni5f91a-1227058918736

 

[Doss]

Not surprising with McPharlin being rumoured to be finishing up.

 

[LeverPuller]

Expecting a first rounder at this point simply due to the bidding war going on.

 

[etsal1]

There should be a pact between the 17 clubs not to offer Frawley a deal that will get Melbourne a band 1 compo pick.

 

[Dez!]

There should be a pact between the 17 clubs not to offer Frawley a deal that will get Melbourne a band 1 compo pick.

Why's that?

 

[etsal1]

Why's that?

Because the system is a farce.

 

[Dez!]

Because the system is a farce.

And that's Melbourne's fault how exactly?

 

[etsal1]

And that's Melbourne's fault how exactly?

Where did I say it was?

But if the clubs want an equal uncompromised draft, Melbourne can't get pick 3 for Frawley.

 

[Dez!]

Where did I say it was?

But if the clubs want an equal uncompromised draft, Melbourne can't get pick 3 for Frawley.

Oh so Melbourne get punished for no reason, that's entirely fair.

 

[etsal1]

Oh so Melbourne get punished for no reason, that's entirely fair.

Melbourne get punished?

The victim mentality runs deep.

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

Melbourne get punished?

The victim mentality runs deep.

Well they do lose a top 5 player from their list, so they do get punished in a sense

 

[etsal1]

Well they do lose a top 5 player from their list, so they do get punished in a sense

Just like every other club they had the opportunity to convince him to stay.

I'm not saying Melbourne shouldn't be compensated. But the current compensation system is not fair.
It practically encourages Melbourne to let Frawley leave because the reward for him leaving is greater than the reward for keeping him. It's a flawed system. It's got nothing to do with Melbourne. It's to do with the current system being a farce.

 

[demon21]

There should be a pact between the 17 clubs not to offer Frawley a deal that will get Melbourne a band 1 compo pick.

Why didnt Car have that theory last season when they paid alot for Daisy who also had a bad ankle.

 

[etsal1]

Why didnt Car have that theory last season when they paid alot for Daisy who also had a bad ankle.

The bad ankle which stopped him playing 20 games this year?

 

[demon21]

The bad ankle which stopped him playing 20 games this year?

May have played 20 games but first half of the year struggled to kick over 40m, but my point is u say other clubs should not pay Frawley enough for them to get band 1, but didnt stop Car giving Daisy a very nice contract.

 

[etsal1]

May have played 20 games but first half of the year struggled to kick over 40m, but my point is u say other clubs should not pay Frawley enough for them to get band 1, but didnt stop Car giving Daisy a very nice contract.

Because the compensation pick Collingwood got for Daisy was fair value.

You don't honestly think Frawley would get you pick 3 if he was traded normally do you?

My point isn't that Melbourne shouldn't receive compensation. My point is that the current compensation system is flawed.

 

[00Stinger]

Just like every other club they had the opportunity to convince him to stay.

I'm not saying Melbourne shouldn't be compensated. But the current compensation system is not fair.
It practically encourages Melbourne to let Frawley leave because the reward for him leaving is greater than the reward for keeping him. It's a flawed system. It's got nothing to do with Melbourne. It's to do with the current system being a farce.

Bullshit, we lose a proven player.

 

[etsal1]

Bullshit, we lose a proven player.

So you think you'd get pick 3 for Frawley if he was traded and not leaving as an FA?

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

Just like every other club they had the opportunity to convince him to stay.

I'm not saying Melbourne shouldn't be compensated. But the current compensation system is not fair.
It practically encourages Melbourne to let Frawley leave because the reward for him leaving is greater than the reward for keeping him. It's a flawed system. It's got nothing to do with Melbourne. It's to do with the current system being a farce.

No need to tell a Hawthorn supporter that. We lose Buddy, and our compensation is worse than Collingwood get for losing Daisy Thomas.......I mean, seriously

 

[demon21]

Because the compensation pick Collingwood got for Daisy was fair value.

You don't honestly think Frawley would get you pick 3 if he was traded normally do you?

My point isn't that Melbourne shouldn't receive compensation. My point is that the current compensation system is flawed.

well Coll didn't put up much of a fight so i think they where happy to get the pick.

No i don't think Frawley is worth pick 3 i think he is worth a mid to late 1st rounder, But a bad team lossing a good player hurts them more than a top team lossing one.

I think the AFL set up the system for the lower team's to get over compensated while the good team's get unders which people may not like but that's the system.

The fact is with free agency the top teams will not lose many players tho, its going to be the bottom team that will lose out so if they are over compensated i dont see the big deal.

 

[etsal1]

well Coll didn't put up much of a fight so i think they where happy to get the pick.

No i don't think Frawley is worth pick 3 i think he is worth a mid to late 1st rounder, But a bad team lossing a good player hurts them more than a top team lossing one.

I think the AFL set up the system for the lower team's to get over compensated while the good team's get unders which people may not like but that's the system.

The fact is with free agency the top teams will not lose many players tho, its going to be the bottom team that will lose out so if they are over compensated i dont see the big deal.

Top teams have lost players not just lower teams. It's just that players will only go to the top teams.

Clearly that was the AFL's intention in setting up a system that would reward the lower teams more because they're less likely to get free agents IN. Doesn't make it right. That's all I'm saying.

 

[melbournemartin]

Top teams have lost players not just lower teams. It's just that players will only go to the top teams.

Clearly that was the AFL's intention in setting up a system that would reward the lower teams more because they're less likely to get free agents IN. Doesn't make it right. That's all I'm saying.

Is that the only reasoning though? There is an element of it simply being a mechanism to ensure some league equality, just like the draft (which its positions are tied to).

 

[TradeDraft]

Because the compensation pick Collingwood got for Daisy was fair value.

You don't honestly think Frawley would get you pick 3 if he was traded normally do you?

My point isn't that Melbourne shouldn't receive compensation. My point is that the current compensation system is flawed.

and He had a Stuffed Ankle and Carlton paying 700-750k was way overs

 

[etsal1]

Is that the only reasoning though? There is an element of it simply being a mechanism to ensure some league equality, just like the draft (which its positions are tied to).

How handing Melbourne pick 3 for Frawley & Hawthorn pick 19 going anything like ensuring league equality?
I know the rules of the system dictate that they are the picks each team should receive. But that isn't very equal.