Rumour James Hird to be appointed head coach if GWS struggles this season

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Surprising that Robbo, the great investigative journo that he is, never got to the bottom of it.

Thats like asking a balloon full of hot air to get to the bottom of a volcano! 😆

(And yes, I know you were being facetious. 😉)
 

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Regardless of what you think about Hird, this is indisputable.

do essendon fans still run with he tipped them off or do they believe it was all an anti-essendon afl conspiracy? been awhile, so just wanna get this straight
 

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Seems like an awful idea to me. I know he had his struggles at Adelaide but Don Pyke is a million times the better coaching prospect than Hird is, someone who has proven to put himself before his players.

Don Pyke is needed where he is now
 

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Bit of both - personally I think the AFL and vlad tried their absolute hardest to cover it up
I'm pretty sure this is not even in dispute. The AFL were up to their eyeballs in it.

The timeline is:
  • AFL got a tip-off that one of the clubs was about to be raided
  • AFL phoned Essendon to let them know (indicating that AFL already knew and were turning a blind eye
  • Essendon destroys evidence
  • Essendon raided, no records found
  • AFL find them not guilty
  • Appeal to an independent body finds them guilty
  • AFL allows illegal payments to Essendon players as compensation

Both the AFL and Essendon, including most of their players are guilty of systematic cheating and corruption, which nobody has really been held to account for. How Hird is now allowed to coach, the players only got one year while being paid, and someone like Bruce Reid was still allowed to practice is absolutely beyond me.
 

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BREAKING: Leon Cameron will resign after one more game as coach of the GWS Giants.

Mark McVeigh will replace him as interim coach for the remainder of the season.
 

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7AFL:

BREAKING: Leon Cameron will resign after one more game as coach of the GWS Giants.

Mark McVeigh will replace him as interim coach for the remainder of the season.
McVeigh is Hird's sock puppet !
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Any reason why Hird wouldn't work out at GWS if they appointed him ? (Reckon he is their fall back option if they miss out on Clarko)

From what I recall, he got Essendon playing a lot more attacking and entertaining style of footy than what Woosha did or Rutten has so far.
 

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Any reason why Hird wouldn't work out at GWS if they appointed him ? (Reckon he is their fall back option if they miss out on Clarko)

From what I recall, he got Essendon playing a lot more attacking and entertaining style of footy than what Woosha did or Rutten has so far.
So apart from the "vitamins" scandal. Our old mate Jimmy had no real coaching experience apart from his kids Auskick team before he took on the job at Essendon.

So when he was moved on from the Bombers you would think he would take on a assistant role at another club or even a local club to get some more experience.

He hasn't done the hard yards to get another top gig and he got burnt last time he tried to cut corners.
 

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Any reason why Hird wouldn't work out at GWS if they appointed him ? (Reckon he is their fall back option if they miss out on Clarko)

From what I recall, he got Essendon playing a lot more attacking and entertaining style of footy than what Woosha did or Rutten has so far.
Essendon's most successful season during this finals victory drought was in 2014. Coincidentally the year that had nothing to do with Hird. After Bomber was white anted and left, they became a rabble under Hird.

He couldn't coach then and it seems he's done nothing to improve himself in that regard since.

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Essendon's most successful season during this finals victory drought was in 2014. Coincidentally the year that had nothing to do with Hird. After Bomber was white anted and left, they became a rabble under Hird.

He couldn't coach then and it seems he's done nothing to improve himself in that regard since.

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Our best season was 2013. We were 2nd on the ladder with a percentage of 131 and a record of 13-3 heading into round 18 before we were told we weren't playing finals that year.

Our defence was solid in 2014, but we weren't that great. If you're looking at our competitive EF vs North, they were far worse in quality than the other teams we lost to (Syd 2017 (reigning grand finalists), WCE 2019 (reigning premiers) and WB 2021 (grand finalists)). Even Carlton in 2011 had more talent.

We played our best footy under Hird. He was also our best match-day coach (which is an underrated aspect of his coaching). He made the necessary changes to get us back into the game.

He definitely can coach, but I do believe he needs to be an assistant coach to learn from others before becoming a head coach again. Similar to what Voss did.
 

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Our best season was 2013. We were 2nd on the ladder with a percentage of 131 and a record of 13-3 heading into round 18 before we were told we weren't playing finals that year.

Our defence was solid in 2014, but we weren't that great. If you're looking at our competitive EF vs North, they were far worse in quality than the other teams we lost to (Syd 2017 (reigning grand finalists), WCE 2019 (reigning premiers) and WB 2021 (grand finalists)). Even Carlton in 2011 had more talent.

We played our best footy under Hird. He was also our best match-day coach (which is an underrated aspect of his coaching). He made the necessary changes to get us back into the game.

He definitely can coach, but I do believe he needs to be an assistant coach to learn from others before becoming a head coach again. Similar to what Voss did.
I tend to disregard any results for Essendon in 2012/13.

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I'm pretty sure this is not even in dispute. The AFL were up to their eyeballs in it.

The timeline is:
  • AFL got a tip-off that one of the clubs was about to be raided
  • AFL phoned Essendon to let them know (indicating that AFL already knew and were turning a blind eye
  • Essendon destroys evidence
  • Essendon raided, no records found
  • AFL find them not guilty
  • Appeal to an independent body finds them guilty
  • AFL allows illegal payments to Essendon players as compensation

Both the AFL and Essendon, including most of their players are guilty of systematic cheating and corruption, which nobody has really been held to account for. How Hird is now allowed to coach, the players only got one year while being paid, and someone like Bruce Reid was still allowed to practice is absolutely beyond me.
This took you till 2022 to work that out bwahhhh
 

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