List Mgmt. James Toohey retires

[krisholio14]

Not going to have a crack at the kid but good luck to him.
But this is yet another poor result from our rookie list. So we've lost Toohey. Zac Bates has barely been sighted. Delaney doesn't even look close to playing. Bourke from the year before only lasted a season. 2012 we didn't even use a pick. Then we've got guys like Eardly and Sheringham simpkin burbury bathie. I would suggest that in the past 5 years our only decent rookie is Walker that we still have. Blicavs technically wasn't a rookie. I think out use of the rookie draft has been poor and it must improve.

Pfft. Young James has some health issues that have played a big part in him making this decision.

And need I say the rookie list is there to roll the dice on a few blokes. We've got reasonable service from our rookie list in recent years, how many stars do you expect to get from it? How many stars do other clubs get from it?

 

[Cataholic]

Not going to have a crack at the kid but good luck to him. But this is yet another poor result from our rookie list. So we've lost Toohey. Zac Bates has barely been sighted. Delaney doesn't even look close to playing. Bourke from the year before only lasted a season. 2012 we didn't even use a pick. Then we've got guys like Eardly and Sheringham simpkin burbury bathie. I would suggest that in the past 5 years our only decent rookie is Walker that we still have. Blicavs technically wasn't a rookie. I think out use of the rookie draft has been poor and it must improve.

Would be hard to.

The guy has a heart condition, had surgery, and decided it's best for him to move on.

No criticism of him, or our selection of him, is warranted.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Not going to have a crack at the kid but good luck to him.
But this is yet another poor result from our rookie list. So we've lost Toohey. Zac Bates has barely been sighted. Delaney doesn't even look close to playing. Bourke from the year before only lasted a season. 2012 we didn't even use a pick. Then we've got guys like Eardly and Sheringham simpkin burbury bathie. I would suggest that in the past 5 years our only decent rookie is Walker that we still have. Blicavs technically wasn't a rookie. I think out use of the rookie draft has been poor and it must improve.

Podsiadly? He went alright. But yes, I take your point. The Pies and Hawks have produced some gems in the rookie draft. Especially Hawthorn. Luke Breust as an example is an absolute gem. Pick 47 in the 2009 rookie draft. Wow. He wasn't even picked early in the rookie draft. Hasn't he made some clubs look foolish.Imagine if we had of got him. Easy in hindsight though.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Suckling Pick 81 in the same Rookie draft

 

[Cataholic]

Podsiadly? He went alright. But yes, I take your point. The Pies and Hawks have produced some gems in the rookie draft. Especially Hawthorn. Luke Breust as an example is an absolute gem. Pick 47 in the 2009 rookie draft. Wow. He wasn't even picked early in the rookie draft. Hasn't he made some clubs look foolish.Imagine if we had of got him. Easy in hindsight though.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Everyone is so much wiser with it.

 

[Whit3y]

Let's take this time to wish James all the best in his future endeavours!
Also all pray for dazbroncos during a tough time in his life.

eardley now toohey

id hate to be the next kid he jumps on

chin up big d, you will get there one day

 

[FredLeDeux]

Pfft. Young James has some health issues that have played a big part in him making this decision.

And need I say the rookie list is there to roll the dice on a few blokes. We've got reasonable service from our rookie list in recent years, how many stars do you expect to get from it? How many stars do other clubs get from it?

100 games and/or 100 goals

Michael Barlow
Nathan Bassett
Jarryd Blair
Nathan Bock
Matthew Boyd
Luke Breust
Dean Brogan
Greg Broughton
Shannon Byrnes
Andrew Carrazzo
Robert Copeland
Dean Cox
Stewart Crameri
Aaron Davey
Matt de Boer
Michael Doughty
Paul Duffield
Aaron Edwards
Michael Firrito
Chad Fletcher
Nathan Foley
Josh Gibson
Antoni Grover
Heath Grundy
Jarrod Harbrow
Pearce Hanley
Leigh Harding
Roger Hayden
Kieren Jack
Sam Jacobs
Mark Jamar
Mark Johnson
Darren Jolly
Brett Jones
Tadhg Kennelly
Brett Kirk
Tarkyn Lockyer
Nathan Lovett-Murray
Heritier Lumumba
Quinten Lynch
Martin Mattner
Nick Maxwell
James McDonald
Ben McGlynn
Mal Michael
Stephen Milne
Dale Morris
Shane Mumford
Mark Nicoski
Michael Osborne
Joel Patfull
Danyle Pearce
Damien Peverill
Liam Picken
James Podsiadly
Jason Porplyzia
Matt Priddis
Dean Rioli
Russell Robertson
Max Rooke
Ben Rutten
Aaron Sandilands
Brad Sewell
Cheynee Stiller
Bret Thornton
Greg Tivendale
Shane Tuck
Clinton Young

 

[catempire]

What is our rookie list strike rate versus other clubs? Hard to judge without that information. My sense is the whole thing is a crapshoot.

 

[Whit3y]

But this is yet another poor result from our rookie list. So we've lost Toohey. Zac Bates has barely been sighted. Delaney doesn't even look close to playing. Bourke from the year before only lasted a season. 2012 we didn't even use a pick. Then we've got guys like Eardly and Sheringham simpkin burbury bathie. I would suggest that in the past 5 years our only decent rookie is Walker that we still have. Blicavs technically wasn't a rookie. I think out use of the rookie draft has been poor and it must improve.

but we have wells the king?

 

[Cataholic]

What is our rookie list strike rate versus other clubs? Hard to judge without that information. My sense is the whole thing is a crapshoot.

That it is.

It's predicting the future without knowing how they'll develop physically, mentally and emotionally. Nothing more than educated guesses based on scant information.

 

[Cataholic]

but we have wells the king?

Yes, yes we do. To the envy of all the other clubs.

What are you like at predicting the roll of the dice?

 

[bulletproof]

I think getting Blicavs from the rookie list pretty much gives our recruiters a free pass for five years on finding players from the rookie draft.

I think if you find one elite talent every five years from rookie list you are doing well.

Throw in Walker and I am happy with rookie selections over last three years.

 

[Whit3y]

Yes, yes we do. To the envy of all the other clubs.

What are you like at predicting the roll of the dice?

im guessing 1

 

[Cataholic]

im guessing 1

Lol

If only it were that easy.....

 

[Daniel McL]

How can we atheists help out!!!!

Wish James well for the future.

I am too haha so we should probably just forge Toohey's signature on something & give it to Daz!

 

[THE CAT WRANGLER]

Rookie list strike rate has been poor

 

[fishman]

Need to ask the coach's brother if we can have a backman.... Tippet?

 

[CharacterFirst]

Until I see one of these ↓

I reckon you're faking it.

He's a messianic Jew. (In fact he ain't Jewish at all - shhhhhhh!)

 

[CharacterFirst]

This is very disappointing for the lad, and for us I dare say.

Go well James Toohey, and God speed.

 

[Jon Douglas]

Of course we would all wish any person who has such medical issues well. No one's fault - including the club. How would you know there was an issue with a kid this young until it shows up.

BUT we have either had some very bad luck with many picks in the last 3-4 years - or we have not done enough homework - OR a combination of both factors.

The fact remains we have lost a fair bit of time and picks with major injuries or similar. You could list Hartman, Toohey, McCarthy, Bates, Cowan, Brown, Hmac, Menzel, Vardy and Delaney for the last few seasons as players who just have not made it (perhaps in the future some will). Then you add in players that have been restricted thru injury and you can add Smedts, Kersten and Simpson.

Our list has not been able to produce as many good kids coming thru because we have put so much time into these guys. Now it happens at all clubs but I doubt to this extent. My guess is we have lost at least about 4-5 ND picks and Rookie picks because of injuries. That is a lot especially when you have one of the best recruiters in the game.

With these extra picks we may have unearthed maybe another 2 very good players. And if we had another 2 very good young players in this team right now we would be a certain top 8 side team this season IMO. Maybe a bit higher than that. And more than likely next season, as the youngsters gain experience and strength - a real chance of a top 4 ending in 2016.

That is why I do favour going for a good FA, who has proven their fitness and health over a fair time - to add to the youngsters we have coming thru.

Got really have a good look at the list at the end of the season and start sorting out this situation. It is one key reason why we have not transitioned as well as we expected.

 

[Micksy]

Also all pray for dazbroncos during a tough time in his life.

Geez, don't do that to me. I thought daz had something seriously wrong with him (don't!).

On the rookie thing. Wasn't Blix-Scarves a rookie?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

eardley now toohey

id hate to be the next kid he jumps on

chin up big d, you will get there one day

He's the kiss of death.

Maybe his next player can be Ballantyne then

 

[manboob]

What is our rookie list strike rate versus other clubs? Hard to judge without that information. My sense is the whole thing is a crapshoot.

Some clubs are a bit sneaky too - they'll draft a gun via the rookie list knowing no one else is aware or into them then upgrade them later. Instead of using a decent live pick in the draft.

 

[Lana]

100 games and/or 100 goals

Michael Barlow
Nathan Bassett
Jarryd Blair
Nathan Bock
Matthew Boyd
Luke Breust
Dean Brogan
Greg Broughton
Shannon Byrnes
Andrew Carrazzo
Robert Copeland
Dean Cox
Stewart Crameri
Aaron Davey
Matt de Boer
Michael Doughty
Paul Duffield
Aaron Edwards
Michael Firrito
Chad Fletcher
Nathan Foley
Josh Gibson
Antoni Grover
Heath Grundy
Jarrod Harbrow
Pearce Hanley
Leigh Harding
Roger Hayden
Kieren Jack
Sam Jacobs
Mark Jamar
Mark Johnson
Darren Jolly
Brett Jones
Tadhg Kennelly
Brett Kirk
Tarkyn Lockyer
Nathan Lovett-Murray
Heritier Lumumba
Quinten Lynch
Martin Mattner
Nick Maxwell
James McDonald
Ben McGlynn
Mal Michael
Stephen Milne
Dale Morris
Shane Mumford
Mark Nicoski
Michael Osborne
Joel Patfull
Danyle Pearce
Damien Peverill
Liam Picken
James Podsiadly
Jason Porplyzia
Matt Priddis
Dean Rioli
Russell Robertson
Max Rooke
Ben Rutten
Aaron Sandilands
Brad Sewell
Cheynee Stiller
Bret Thornton
Greg Tivendale
Shane Tuck
Clinton Young

Now do the same thing for people drafted after pick 60 in the national draft.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Now do the same thing for people drafted after pick 60 in the national draft.

I pinched this straight from Wikipedia.
I must admit I was surprised at the size and quality of the list.