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Chelsea can't play an outright attacking game as their defense isnt good enough. Matic may change things but I think they play snoreball because Jose likes it that way.

Equal best defensive record in the league. Love to see what it would be like if we had a good defence. We do play an attacking game though, that's what half of you aren't getting. We haven't been defensive at all. Most games we've been playing Ramires and Lampard as holding mids. Tell me, are either of them defensive to you?
 

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Yeah. Defensive fine. Anti-football? There are many ways to play the game. Not every team has to be all out attack like Liverpool or City. It's a dumb comment.

This article sums up the universal feeling on Mourinho quite nicely

http://sabotagetimes.com/reportage/...se-mourinho-will-never-be-considered-a-great/

The difference between Pellegrini who has an expensive squad and getting them to play the most entertaining football in the country, and Mourinho, who has had hundreds of millions upon millions to spend in every club he's been at, and always ends up playing the same boring, dour, hard nosed, dirty crap, again and again. It's a deliberate attempt to not play the game in a pleasing manner in exchange for results, that's why it's anti-football. In a similar way, that's why we ******* hate Stoke

But apparently stating the obvious that some Chelsea fans don't like means it must be a dumb comment, hilariously precious bunch
 

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Equal best defensive record in the league. Love to see what it would be like if we had a good defence. We do play an attacking game though, that's what half of you aren't getting. We haven't been defensive at all. Most games we've been playing Ramires and Lampard as holding mids. Tell me, are either of them defensive to you?

Its equal best because of the style of football you play.

You don't have the defenders to play a more attacking style and get away with it.
 

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This article sums up the universal feeling on Mourinho quite nicely

http://sabotagetimes.com/reportage/...se-mourinho-will-never-be-considered-a-great/

The difference between Pellegrini who has an expensive squad and getting them to play the most entertaining football in the country, and Mourinho, who has had hundreds of millions upon millions to spend in every club he's been at, and always ends up playing the same boring, dour, hard nosed, dirty crap, again and again. It's a deliberate attempt to not play the game in a pleasing manner in exchange for results, that's why it's anti-football. In a similar way, that's why we ******* hate Stoke

But apparently stating the obvious that some Chelsea fans don't like means it must be a dumb comment, hilariously precious bunch

Calling me precious yet has a massive rant. I've always enjoyed Mourinho's style no matter which club. Can't you get that there is more than one aspect to the game?

Good luck to Pellegrini and his attacking style. But I don't give a shit if we don't play like them. Different squad, different manager.

Also.. that is one of the worst articles I've ever read. He's clearly one of the best managers of all time. Anyone with a brain can see that. Ignorant to say otherwise.
 

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Somehow Mourinho's defensive setup at Real Madrid still broke the record in La Liga for goals scored, not sure how that happened.

Pellegrini the attacking coach with the same team couldn't pull it off.
 

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Calling me precious yet has a massive rant. I've always enjoyed Mourinho's style no matter which club. Can't you get that there is more than one aspect to the game?

Good luck to Pellegrini and his attacking style. But I don't give a shit if we don't play like them. Different squad, different manager.

Also.. that is one of the worst articles I've ever read. He's clearly one of the best managers of all time. Anyone with a brain can see that. Ignorant to say otherwise.

How is that a massive rant? I was just simply putting out evidence. A rant is when you say someone is making a dumb comment even though what they say is factually true, that's a rant, and that's you

You're just proving my point that you're being precious with your response to the article, anything you disagree with, even if it might be true, must be ignorant
 

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Its equal best because of the style of football you play.

You don't have the defenders to play a more attacking style and get away with it.

I don't want to get in a shitfight with you but how many Chelsea games have you watched this season? Because we haven't had a defensive style at all. We've dominated possession and shots in almost every game bar 3 I think. We are constantly attacking this season, as much as any team. The reason it may not look it is because of the lack of firing striker. That's why I'm arguing with people, it's pretty clear to see that we're playing a very different style to 2004.
 

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How is that a massive rant? I was just simply putting out evidence. A rant is when you say someone is making a dumb comment even though what they say is factually true, that's a rant, and that's you

You're just proving my point that you're being precious with your response to the article, anything you disagree with, even if it might be true, must be ignorant

Look. Let's just agree to disagree because I usually think you're a good poster and I've never really disagreed with much you've said but we clearly disagree on this.
 

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Look. Let's just agree to disagree because I usually think you're a good poster and I've never really disagreed with much you've said but we clearly disagree on this.

Of course you do, because I criticised the Chelsea manager, or even say anything negative about Chelsea. Just a precious bunch
 

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Of course you do, because I criticised the Chelsea manager, or even say anything negative about Chelsea. Just a precious bunch

So basically we're the same as any other team on here? I see posts every day about clubs, then those fans defend their club...as they should.

But oh no, god forbid Chelsea fans like their club and manager. Cmon mate, don't need to start abusing Chelsea fans for doing the same thing that United, City, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal fans do!
 

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So basically we're the same as any other team on here? I see posts every day about clubs, then those fans defend their club...as they should.

But oh no, god forbid Chelsea fans like their club and manager. Cmon mate, don't need to start abusing Chelsea fans for doing the same thing that United, City, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal fans do!

Actually some people are able to objectively accept criticism of their own club when they see people have a point, ya know. You don't get to falsely generalize about everyone to validate your own irrational behaviour
 

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I don't want to get in a shitfight with you but how many Chelsea games have you watched this season? Because we haven't had a defensive style at all. We've dominated possession and shots in almost every game bar 3 I think. We are constantly attacking this season, as much as any team. The reason it may not look it is because of the lack of firing striker. That's why I'm arguing with people, it's pretty clear to see that we're playing a very different style to 2004.


Watched plenty. Highly effective, but boring as ****. More reliant on the brilliance of individuals for entertainment than any sort of tactical approach.

2004 was probably the last time Chelsea under Jose was a good side to watch. Robben/Duff/Cole on the wings and it was good to watch. Since then - clinical and effective is how I'd describe Chelseas play.

FWIW I'm not a big fan of the shootout approach we take either.
 

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Actually some people are able to objectively accept criticism of their own club when they see people have a point, ya know. You don't get to falsely generalize about everyone to validate your own irrational behaviour

What exactly have I done that one could conceive as irrational behaviour?

I defended our manager, a man who I really like as a coach. Then I agreed to disagree with you as we don't see eye to eye and I wanted to kept it civil and not turn it into a flame war. I even complimented you as a poster.

Then you continue to insult me and completely generalize Chelsea fans, then insult me for doing the same about other fans. Have I done something to you in the past and you know my real identity and hate me or something lol?
 

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Watched plenty. Highly effective, but boring as ****. More reliant on the brilliance of individuals for entertainment than any sort of tactical approach.

2004 was probably the last time Chelsea under Jose was a good side to watch. Robben/Duff/Cole on the wings and it was good to watch. Since then - clinical and effective is how I'd describe Chelseas play.

FWIW I'm not a big fan of the shootout approach we take either.

Fair enough mate. Maybe we would seem a bit more exciting with a better striker as I think alot of our good play ends in nothing as soon as Torres, Eto'o or Ba lose the ball 90% of the time!
 

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What exactly have I done that one could conceive as irrational behaviour?

I defended our manager, a man who I really like as a coach. Then I agreed to disagree with you as we don't see eye to eye and I wanted to kept it civil and not turn it into a flame war. I even complimented you as a poster.

Then you continue to insult me and completely generalize Chelsea fans, then insult me for doing the same about other fans. Have I done something to you in the past and you know my real identity and hate me or something lol?

Who is the one who throw the dumb comment phrase out there first? Don't get to have the cake and eat it too, you are the one who started the irrational putting down of a post even though it clearly is grounded on some semblance of facts

I said "some Chelsea fans", not all, you know the same post you said was a dumb comment a sane and well reasoned Chelsea fan liked it as well, right?

I am simply calling it as I see it, stop pretending I'm playing the man
 

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Who is the one who throw the dumb comment phrase out there first? Don't get to have the cake and eat it too, you are the one who started the irrational putting down of a post even though it clearly is grounded on some semblance of facts

I said "some Chelsea fans", not all, you know the same post you said was a dumb comment a sane and well reasoned Chelsea fan liked it as well, right?

I am simply calling it as I see it, stop pretending I'm playing the man

I realised I was hurling insults too hence the 'let's just agree to disagree'. I apologise for my insults at you mate, I get what you're saying about Jose. I just really like him and don't get why others don't. But fair enough. Everyone sees things differently!
 

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I realised I was hurling insults too hence the 'let's just agree to disagree'. I apologise for my insults at you mate, I get what you're saying about Jose. I just really like him and don't get why others don't. But fair enough. Everyone sees things differently!
Lol you really don't understand why other's don't like Jose?

I don't know, maybe because he is a prick of a man?
 

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I realised I was hurling insults too hence the 'let's just agree to disagree'. I apologise for my insults at you mate, I get what you're saying about Jose. I just really like him and don't get why others don't. But fair enough. Everyone sees things differently!

Very well, we will leave it at that, no hard feelings :)
 
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