Jared Brennan

[TheGreatBarryB]

How about...

Kepler Bradley and Pick 23 For Jarred Brennan and Pick 41?

Rather than accept Kepler and pick 23, I think Lions would rather accept pick 23 and a promise that Kepler never set foot in QLD!!

Ok, maybe a tad harsh on Kepler but he's not even a great VFL player even though he won Bendigo B&F. He is ordinary and for some to say on here that his performances have been as good as Bradleys is just ridiculous. Keps can't play as a backman, not could/quick/skillful enough for a midfielder and a crap kick for a forward.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

I suggest you know what you are talking about before you continue to bring it up only to get shot down in flames each time

2007 - 42.26
2006 - 60.35
2005 - 33.36
2004 - 67.32
2003 - 30.17
2002 - 21.18
2001 - 2.2

Total - 255.166

And that is over every game he ever played.....

Look forward to your reply

Look he's top player, no denying that, and those stats look nice. But a few times in "clutch" situations he's missed goals that a top player should have got. Love to see his stats broken down into e.g 4th qtr in tight games & big games. He misses more of those shots that the really great forwards rarely miss.

 

[monty1104]

What do you think this would be;
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=HhS1qvRM0Kk[/youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HhS1qvRM0Kk

But in that certain play he read the ball of the the pack, got to it first and kicked a goal something that you mentioned above that he couldn't do.

I never said he COULDNT do it. I said he is more of a lead up forward, and less of a crumber. Scott Lucas has crumbed goals before. Does that make him a crumber?

 

[dapto]

Look he's top player, no denying that, and those stats look nice. But a few times in "clutch" situations he's missed goals that a top player should have got. Love to see his stats broken down into e.g 4th qtr in tight games & big games. He misses more of those shots that the really great forwards rarely miss.

This whole riewolt debate was begot from some idiot blowing his trumpet without, as he always does, without thinking. Let it slide.

 

[Couch Potato]

Hadley will be leaving, however, in all likelihood to Carlton for a low-level pick. Brennan's future was less certain. The enigmatic 23-year-old is effectively estranged from the club and the Dons are keen to winkle him out of Brisbane for nothing through the pre-season draft.

In the age this morning.
Brisbane are panicking now - Jared won't return their calls - everything through his manager.
I would love for us to get Hadley as well. I reckon offer pick 23 for Hadley - he's a pretty good midfielder and then pick up Brennan in the PSD!

 

[The Donners]

I suggest you know what you are talking about before you continue to bring it up only to get shot down in flames each time

2007 - 42.26
2006 - 60.35
2005 - 33.36
2004 - 67.32
2003 - 30.17
2002 - 21.18
2001 - 2.2

Total - 255.166

And that is over every game he ever played.....

Look forward to your reply

Stats are used only when it works in your favour!

Did you know that statistically Anthony Rocca took the most contested marks in the competition?

So if Riewoldt consistently takes 10-15 marks per game, what are these marks called then?? Uncontested perhaps??

Tell me how many of his goals were from set shots? At what distance? You've proven nothing. I said he misses from 30 metres in front, show me a stat that proves me wrong.

 

[bomberwelsh]

Hadley will be leaving, however, in all likelihood to Carlton for a low-level pick. Brennan's future was less certain. The enigmatic 23-year-old is effectively estranged from the club and the Dons are keen to winkle him out of Brisbane for nothing through the pre-season draft.

In the age this morning.
Brisbane are panicking now - Jared won't return their calls - everything through his manager.
I would love for us to get Hadley as well. I reckon offer pick 23 for Hadley - he's a pretty good midfielder and then pick up Brennan in the PSD!

Dogs will get him befor us.

 

[Wing Commander]

Alarm bells ringing here!!!! why are Brisbane keen to offload Brennan?

does anyone know? Is there something that Brisbane know that we don't?

I know he has been inconsitent but I thought his second half of 2007 was ok and it seemed that maybe he was repaying back that faith Brisbane had invested in him....... and now they wish to trade him?

Remember Damian Cupido (another skillful player who lost his way)

Couldn't agree more. Don't want or need him.

 

[The Donners]

Well you can't have him, he's ours....i hope

Yeah, would be very very handy!

 

[gdaytiger2001]

Herald sun have reported today that Essendon and the The Bulldogs appear to have missed out on brennan with him likely to stay at brisbane

 

[Schmick]

Herald sun have reported today that Essendon and the The Bulldogs appear to have missed out on brennan with him likely to stay at brisbane

I find that hard to believe. It seemed as though he was really keen to come to Essendon and was pleased to hear that Knights would play him on the wing where he wanted to play whilst on a 1mil $ contract over 3 years. What more could he want?

 

[go_the_bombers]

I find that hard to believe. It seemed as though he was really keen to come to Essendon and was pleased to hear that Knights would play him on the wing where he wanted to play whilst on a 1mil $ contract over 3 years. What more could he want?

The Lions to trade him to where he wants to go!

 

[The Donners]

I find that hard to believe. It seemed as though he was really keen to come to Essendon and was pleased to hear that Knights would play him on the wing where he wanted to play whilst on a 1mil $ contract over 3 years. What more could he want?

A bigger pay offer from Brisbane. They probably didn't even need to match it, just be somewhere in the ball park IMO.

It's like Bomber Thompson, he kept putting off talks of coaching Essendon, he was never going to but in the meantime the value on his head went up and up!

 

[Merv]

Stats are used only when it works in your favour!

Did you know that statistically Anthony Rocca took the most contested marks in the competition?

So if Riewoldt consistently takes 10-15 marks per game, what are these marks called then?? Uncontested perhaps??

Tell me how many of his goals were from set shots? At what distance? You've proven nothing. I said he misses from 30 metres in front, show me a stat that proves me wrong.

Yhis is one of the things that annoys me about people who are prepared to have an opinion and voice it, yet when they are shown to be wrong, they start to change the subject from what was originally argued, so that they can attempt to save face.

I'm all for people having a voice and an opinion, but it should be based on something

Here is how the whole thing started

Originally Posted by Saints Premiers 2006
brennan plays one good game a month

You replied with this

TheDonners
Sounds an awful lot like Riewoldt!

Then a poster replied with this

Originally Posted by Butane
Sounds nothing like Nick Riewoldt

You then replied with this

TheDonners
The mention of the name Riewoldt just makes some people mess their pants, I'd prefer substance... and someone who can kick!

So what you have said so far is that Riewoldt plays one good game a month and can't kick.

This is where i chimed in

Your not a fan of guys that can take 10-15 marks at one of the hardest positions on the ground.

Or players that can run his opponent into the ground and then do the same thing to his replacement?

Then you replied with this

TheDonners
Not a fan of a guy who can't kick a goal from 30 directly out in front and is paid $500k+ a year to do it!

Great mark, shit kick. I never said he wasn't good, but on the same token he doesn't kick 3-4 goals every week.

Well 42.26 would say differently and his job isn't just kicking goals, he ensures the ball gets into the forward line with regularity

I replied with facts on his kicking and an opinion that his job isn't just kicking goals but to make sure the ball gets into the forward line a lot, which with Gherig there makes sense.

Here is where you start to change the subject, when the facts are proving you wrong

TheDonners
Really 42 goals in 20 games is 3-4 goals a week is it?

You try to make out that i was saying he kicks 3-4 goals a week.
I showed you facts that he is a reasonable kick for goal and stated that it isn't his only job to just kick goals.

You also stopped replying to me and started on other posters, so it let it go until you came up with this doozy

TheDonners
I don't think I was equating Riewoldt with Brennan at all. I think it's well known that Riewoldt has a kicking deficiency, if you all think differently well you're watching a different game to everyone else.

So again you are bringing up his kicking, to which i produced facts over every single game he has played

2007 - 42.26
2006 - 60.35
2005 - 33.36
2004 - 67.32
2003 - 30.17
2002 - 21.18
2001 - 2.2

Total - 255.166

You then start to change the subject again

TheDonners
Stats are used only when it works in your favour!

Did you know that statistically Anthony Rocca took the most contested marks in the competition?

So if Riewoldt consistently takes 10-15 marks per game, what are these marks called then?? Uncontested perhaps??

Tell me how many of his goals were from set shots? At what distance? You've proven nothing. I said he misses from 30 metres in front, show me a stat that proves me wrong.

Stats are not only used when they are in your favour, they are the facts.
Why don't you use them to back your argument?...because they are what is proving you wrong

You then bring marks into it, where our discussion was about his kicking
I never mentioned one word about if he takes contested or uncontested marks and neither did you, but now you are clutching at straws to try and save face


Then you ask me to provide stats that i possibly can not provide.

You then try and bring the argument back to that you said he misses from 30 in front, which you did say, but you also said he has a kicking definciency and that he is a shit kick.

I proved you wrong with stats.


Sorry to everyone for hijacking this thread and this will be my last word on Riewoldt in this thread.

 

[Longy413]

Sorry to everyone for hijacking this thread and this will be my last word on Riewoldt in this thread.

No, please, keep going.

I enjoyed it.

 

[Schmick]

A bigger pay offer from Brisbane. They probably didn't even need to match it, just be somewhere in the ball park IMO.

It's like Bomber Thompson, he kept putting off talks of coaching Essendon, he was never going to but in the meantime the value on his head went up and up!

What? They were willing to give him 300k for 3 years, and then suddenly it get's bumped up to around the million dollar mark?

And then according to a Realfooty article:
"It is believed Brennan did not attend the Lions' best-and-fairest count and has been unable to be contacted by the club", and i have also heard that he has been staying in Melbourne for the last 2 weeks.

So i really can't imagine him staying put.

 

[Longy413]

What? They were willing to give him 300k for 3 years, and then suddenly it get's bumped up to around the million dollar mark?

I would have thought 900k is around the million dollar mark.

It's 300k a year for three years.
Not 300k over three years.

 

[Schmick]

I would have though 900k is around the million dollar mark.

It's 300k a year for three years.
Not 300k over three years.

Yeh that's what we offered him, but i heard that Brennan was only offered like 300k for 3 years from Brisbane.

 

[Longy413]

Ah, with you now.

 

[The Donners]

Yhis is one of the things that annoys me about people who are prepared to have an opinion and voice it, yet when they are shown to be wrong, they start to change the subject from what was originally argued, so that they can attempt to save face.

I'm all for people having a voice and an opinion, but it should be based on something

Here is how the whole thing started



You replied with this



Then a poster replied with this



You then replied with this



So what you have said so far is that Riewoldt plays one good game a month and can't kick.

This is where i chimed in



Then you replied with this





I replied with facts on his kicking and an opinion that his job isn't just kicking goals but to make sure the ball gets into the forward line a lot, which with Gherig there makes sense.

Here is where you start to change the subject, when the facts are proving you wrong


You try to make out that i was saying he kicks 3-4 goals a week.
I showed you facts that he is a reasonable kick for goal and stated that it isn't his only job to just kick goals.

You also stopped replying to me and started on other posters, so it let it go until you came up with this doozy



So again you are bringing up his kicking, to which i produced facts over every single game he has played



You then start to change the subject again



Stats are not only used when they are in your favour, they are the facts.
Why don't you use them to back your argument?...because they are what is proving you wrong

You then bring marks into it, where our discussion was about his kicking
I never mentioned one word about if he takes contested or uncontested marks and neither did you, but now you are clutching at straws to try and save face


Then you ask me to provide stats that i possibly can not provide.

You then try and bring the argument back to that you said he misses from 30 in front, which you did say, but you also said he has a kicking definciency and that he is a shit kick.

I proved you wrong with stats.


Sorry to everyone for hijacking this thread and this will be my last word on Riewoldt in this thread.

Stats mean jack, McPhee could average 20.2 disposals in 2007 yet have an ordinary year yet average 17.2 possessions in the year he won All-Australian, 2004. There's a stat for you!

I don't mind people having opinions, but what I don't like is people getting wrapped up in statistics like they can some how prove that a player is better than they are or better than another player based on them.

I'm saying for someone of his obvious skill and ability and value (approx. 10% of St. Kilda's TPP), his kicking is not great... I originally used the term shit!

Riewoldt still off target
The St Kilda star kicked five straight behinds from set shots at Princes Park yesterday as the Western Bulldogs recorded an 11-point win. Although the Dogs recaptured some of their 2005 form and held a five-goal break for much of the game, the match will be remembered as much for Riewoldt's day in front of the big sticks. St Kilda coach Grant Thomas revealed Riewoldt had kicked 42.8 at training during the week, but conceded he had struggled for confidence yesterday in front of a crowd of 3000, which eagerly awaited every shot. "I could see in his run in that he lacked a bit of purpose and a bit of confidence. In other games he's played this year he's kicked OK," Thomas said. Thomas likened Riewoldt to a golfer who had lost sight of the fairway. "Stand on the first tee and you can see the ball hitting the middle of the fairway, that's how it will come off and go," Thomas said.
Mark Stevens/HeraldSun/11Mar06

... the Saints' star forward Nick Riewoldt recast his kicking action after acknowledging his problem before goal.
Michael Gleeson/TheAge/11Mar06

 

[rines]

i would be happy to part with pick 23 for brennan, if and only if the lions are FORCED to take bradley and PLAY him at least 12 times, especially against us.... actually I would just be happy for kep to leave... i think brennan has the stuff just doesn't get on well with matthews.. showed more than kep ever has...

 

[PinCushion]

Brisbane unable to stop the momentum

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Greg Denham | October 12, 2007

In what has been an extraordinary 24 hours, Brisbane is set to lose promising excitement machine Jared Brennan to Essendon on the back of an irresistible movement by prominent football website, Bomberblitz.com.

What makes this occurance even more astounding is the fact that Brisbane had no intention of trading the enigmatic utility until, in a moment of meta-criticism, one poster commented on the momentum with which the push to secure Brennan was gaining.

Once the phenomenon was observed, it seemed inevitable that Brennan, 23, would end up at the Bombers.

Leigh Mathews was quoted as saying 'Well, we didn't want to trade him. But Browny (Jon Brown) alerted us to the thread'. Sources close to the Lions indicate that Brown was looking for pr0n at the time and was drawn to the story, through the interwebs, by its own shear momentum.

Once informed, Mathews immediately sent Brennan to the Bombers, in exchange for the excitement-cum-eating machine Richard Cole.

'We were just concerned that the momentum to get Brennan to the Bombers would see us lose other players. It would be fair to say that another hour or two and Blacky and Power would have been all aboard the momentum train, destination Windy Hill'.

Sources indicate that the momentum of this movement was so strong, Ricky Mott had begun collecting his things and was about to get on a plane for Melbourne. However, sources even closer than the aforementioned sources indicate that that source is un-sourceworthy.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...5012432,00.html

 

[Longy413]

He's not, or at least wasn't their main avenue to goal though.

Merv has mentioned that and you ignored it.

He's their CHF, his work rate is greater than anyone's in the game.
He is the reason Gehrig kicks so many goals.

If he isn't kicking the ball to him, he's creating (or at least was) space for him.

The bloke is a freak and his kicking in 2007 was much better than 2006.
His ball drop has improved.

 

[Schmick]

Brisbane unable to stop the momentum

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Greg Denham | October 12, 2007

In what has been an extraordinary 24 hours, Brisbane is set to lose promising excitement machine Jared Brennan to Essendon on the back of an irresistible movement by prominent football website, Bomberblitz.com.

What makes this occurance even more astounding is the fact that Brisbane had no intention of trading the enigmatic utility until, in a moment of meta-criticism, one poster commented on the momentum with which the push to secure Brennan was gaining.

Once the phenomenon was observed, it seemed inevitable that Brennan, 23, would end up at the Bombers.

Leigh Mathews was quoted as saying 'Well, we didn't want to trade him. But Browny (Jon Brown) alerted us to the thread'. Sources close to the Lions indicate that Brown was looking for pr0n at the time and was drawn to the story, through the interwebs, by its own shear momentum.

Once informed, Mathews immediately sent Brennan to the Bombers, in exchange for the excitement-cum-eating machine Richard Cole.

'We were just concerned that the momentum to get Brennan to the Bombers would see us lose other players. It would be fair to say that another hour or two and Blacky and Power would have been all aboard the momentum train, destination Windy Hill'.

Sources indicate that the momentum of this movement was so strong, Ricky Mott had begun collecting his things and was about to get on a plane for Melbourne. However, sources even closer than the aforementioned sources indicate that that source is un-sourceworthy.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...5012432,00.html

haha

 

[DapperDon]

No, please, keep going.

I enjoyed it.

me too, that was brilliant Merv one of the best shut downs i've seen on this site.