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Player Watch Jarryd Blair (Delisted 2018)

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left at home said:
Why do we have to put Mihocek on the senior list, technically he can be there for two more years.
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If you feel a player is deserving of more than a rookie player and want to say to them they have real value then you surely upgrade the pay and status to full list?

It also shows all rookies how good it can be for them with the right performance attitude etc.

Mihocek as an example and Appleby is another that is not hurting our list at all.

I’d even suggest Mihocek was found gold this year with his play.
 
Saintly Viewed said:
If you feel a player is deserving of more than a rookie player and want to say to them they have real value then you surely upgrade the pay and status to full list?

It also shows all rookies how good it can be for them with the right performance attitude etc.

Mihocek as an example and Appleby is another that is not hurting our list at all.

I’d even suggest Mihocek was found gold this year with his play.
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I know the reasons to upgrade, and not arguing that he doesn’t deserve it, just questioning the rush to if we don’t need to.
It’s not like he has to be, to play afl vs vfl.
 
left at home said:
I know the reasons to upgrade, and not arguing that he doesn’t deserve it, just questioning the rush to if we don’t need to.
It’s not like he has to be, to play afl vs vfl.
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And perhaps there is no rush as hence it’s not done yet.

But I am only guessing here but it is possible a club or two have discreetly asked if Mihocek May be available?
Hence that kicks a little urgency.
 
left at home said:
I know the reasons to upgrade, and not arguing that he doesn’t deserve it, just questioning the rush to if we don’t need to.
It’s not like he has to be, to play afl vs vfl.
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Well he hasnt signed. Maybe the club is taking your stupid approach and only offering him a meagre rookie contract, and as a result hes tyre kicking for a better, longer deal that will secure his future (especially important when youre already middle aged in football terms)
 

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Timmy from Thomastown said:
Well he hasnt signed. Maybe the club is taking your stupid approach and only offering him a meagre rookie contract, and as a result hes tyre kicking for a better, longer deal that will secure his future (especially important when youre already middle aged in football terms)
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Where did l say anything about the contract, or years.
Nice argument not, calling someone stupid, because they could have a slightly different idea.
 
left at home said:
I know the reasons to upgrade, and not arguing that he doesn’t deserve it, just questioning the rush to if we don’t need to.
It’s not like he has to be, to play afl vs vfl.
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I don't think you can in good faith keep a player rookied when he so clearly deserves otherwise and then claim that players should show good faith to the club. There is an itegrity issue here that wouldn't be lost on the players let alone the fact that Mihocek himself would be aggrieved by being held back. The bloke has to look after his wealfare to an extent. I'd put Appleby in another catagory. I'd be happy enough to keep him on the rookie list. I can't see him playing a game if one of Moore and Ried stay fit and Dunn comes back from injury.
 
MarkT2 said:
I don't think you can in good faith keep a player rookied when he so clearly deserves otherwise and then claim that players should show good faith to the club. There is an itegrity issue here that wouldn't be lost on the players let alone the fact that Mihocek himself would be aggrieved by being held back. The bloke has to look after his wealfare to an extent. I'd put Appleby in another catagory. I'd be happy enough to keep him on the rookie list. I can't see him playing a game if one of Moore and Ried stay fit and Dunn comes back from injury.
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That’s fair enough. I have never argued that he does not deserve an upgrade rather the timing of it, with the change of rules of last season. If does get upgraded it will well deserved.
 
MarkT2 said:
I don't think you can in good faith keep a player rookied when he so clearly deserves otherwise and then claim that players should show good faith to the club. There is an itegrity issue here that wouldn't be lost on the players let alone the fact that Mihocek himself would be aggrieved by being held back. The bloke has to look after his wealfare to an extent. I'd put Appleby in another catagory. I'd be happy enough to keep him on the rookie list. I can't see him playing a game if one of Moore and Ried stay fit and Dunn comes back from injury.
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Spot on. Respect works two ways. If football clubs treat players like commodities they can expect players to solely focus on how best to increase their income. Mihocek has proved his worth, Appleby a work in progress.
 
Saintly Viewed said:
If you feel a player is deserving of more than a rookie player and want to say to them they have real value then you surely upgrade the pay and status to full list?

It also shows all rookies how good it can be for them with the right performance attitude etc.

Mihocek as an example and Appleby is another that is not hurting our list at all.

I’d even suggest Mihocek was found gold this year with his play.
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Or you make the necessary decisions to achieve your list management needs.
 
MarkT2 said:
I don't think you can in good faith keep a player rookied when he so clearly deserves otherwise and then claim that players should show good faith to the club. There is an itegrity issue here that wouldn't be lost on the players let alone the fact that Mihocek himself would be aggrieved by being held back. The bloke has to look after his wealfare to an extent. I'd put Appleby in another catagory. I'd be happy enough to keep him on the rookie list. I can't see him playing a game if one of Moore and Ried stay fit and Dunn comes back from injury.
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Who said he's aggrieved?

How is he held back by retention on the rookie list?

He can negotiate his salary. He can play seniors without requiring an upgrade.

The only potential issue might be tenure. Not sure how long a player can be signed for and retained on the rookie list given the maximum RL time is 3 years as far as I'm aware. Does that restrict this contract to 2 years if we don't upgrade him? If we sign him for 3 years do we have to upgrade him?
 
jackcass said:
Who said he's aggrieved?

How is he held back by retention on the rookie list?

He can negotiate his salary. He can play seniors without requiring an upgrade.

The only potential issue might be tenure. Not sure how long a player can be signed for and retained on the rookie list given the maximum RL time is 3 years as far as I'm aware. Does that restrict this contract to 2 years if we don't upgrade him? If we sign him for 3 years do we have to upgrade him?
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Nobody. I'm merely hypothosising that if he deserves promotion, which I believe he does, and is held on the rookie list, then he might be somewhat aggrrieved. Aside from the financial aspect, there is a reward and recognition factor that in any workplace is part and parcel of good culture.
 
Blairy looks gone, been a good servant but the games passed him by, those little legs just can't carry the keg fast enough these days. Could be a good player to have around the VFL.
 

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rand corp said:
Blairy looks gone, been a good servant but the games passed him by, those little legs just can't carry the keg fast enough these days. Could be a good player to have around the VFL.
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Be a terrific VFL captain and mentor.

Never doubted his attitude - on that he was class act.
 
Keep clicking this thread expecting to see him gone so I can thank him for his service.

Much maligned player and a favourite of mine, gave it his all.
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
I diudnt call you stupid.

I called your idea of keeping Mihocek on the rookie list stupid.

Which it is.
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Rubbish, the way you framed it, it was both.
The idea is not new and could happen, no need for rudeness
 
As much as I am in awe of just how much Blair has got out of his undersized body, I don’t forget his “negotiations” for his last contract when we put an honest contract in front of him, that he refused to sign for months, then forced us (against my wishes) to up the offer.
That contract was overs for the seniors return that eventuated.
Premiership hero.
Good luck with your future wee man.
You will never be forgotten.
 

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If true, all the best Jarryd, you had a great career, gave it your all and a premiership player.
Hope your next journey is just as rewarding.
 

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