Solved Jeffrey Dahmer

[Doss]

Reading about Albert Fish and his cannibalism reminded me of Dahmer.

Depraved is too mild a word.

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

 

[myyakhasfleas]

Sick and disturbed man Dahmer was. Got what was coming to him in prison though.

 

[moses]

Horrible

 

[rocker_oz33]

Sick man alot of these kinds of sick ****'s start with animals.

 

[Kurve]

Netflix limited series coming on Dahmer, called 'Monster'. Evan Peters from American Horror Story will play Dahmer, good pick I think.

Here is the official logline for Netflix’s Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story, :

Monster chronicles the story of one of America’s most notorious serial killers, largely told from the point of view of Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims, and dives deeply into the police incompetence and apathy that allowed the Wisconsin native to go on a multiyear killing spree. The series dramatizes at least 10 instances where Dahmer was almost apprehended but ultimately let go. The series also is expected to touch on white privilege, as Dahmer, a cleancut, good-looking white guy, was repeatedly given a free pass by cops as well as by judges who were lenient when he had been charged with petty crimes.

'DAHMER - Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story' Netflix Series: What We Know So Far

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[X_box_X]

The worst of the worst. He was rated the highest category (22) on the Most Evil list.

 

[Hojuman]

The worst of the worst. He was rated the highest category (22) on the Most Evil list.

Be a long list that one. Caro at 2 ? She'd be close.

 

[Kurve]

Evan Peters is cast as Dahmer and looks like he's done a really good job, the trailer is intense.

“DAHMER shines a spotlight on the as-yet untold stories of Dahmer’s victims, the people who tried to stop him, and the systemic failures that enabled him to continue his murderous spree for over a decade.”

Evan Peters is serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer in trailer for Netflix series

The series is from 'American Horror Story' creator Ryan Murphy

www.nme.com

 

[Butters and Pepper]

The worst of the worst. He was rated the highest category (22) on the Most Evil list.

I tend to disagree with this a bit.

What he did was horrible obviously but it could probably be argued he perhaps didn't kill for the sake it, but more as a means to get "close" to his victims, or perhaps to take some type of ownership of them.

I think some of the very worst are Israel Keyes, David Parker Ray and Rodney Alcala.

 

[geeeyejo]

I tend to disagree with this a bit.

What he did was horrible obviously but it could probably be argued he perhaps didn't kill for the sake it, but more as a means to get "close" to his victims, or perhaps to take some type of ownership of them.

I think some of the very worst are Israel Keyes, David Parker Ray and Rodney Alcala.

Agreed - also some consensus within medical community that he could retrospectively be given autism diagnosis ( not saying that justifies his crimes )


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[Kurve]

Dahmer had history of animal cruelty through childhood and in to his teens, same as Gacy, Bundy and Ridgeway. Similarly, Dahmer's own witness on his defence Dr. Fred Berlin, admitted Dahmer was cunning, deceptive and a liar. They all are.

While I could accept mental health problems, I don't buy Dahmer's story of being a sad, lonely man wanting to turn his victims in to zombies who would never leave him.

The only reason he didn't post their heads on sticks like he did with his animal victims in the woods, was because he was smart enough to know he wouldn't get away with it for long in the big city.

 

[X_box_X]

There's a 10 part series on Dahmer that is being released on Netflix today.

 

[Butters and Pepper]

I recall seeing an interview with Dahmer on YouTube.

He seemed to speak quite forthright and have an acceptance that he was f***ed in the head.

 

[freddy mercury]

Currently watching the Netflix show, only on EP2 but I know the story etc already. Breaks my heart thinking about the fact that anyones child, a small, innocent child could potentially turn out to be like Dahmer. It motivates me to be a better father to my children, teach them wrong from right and be the good influence many psychopaths dont have.

 

[Cyber_punk]

I recall seeing an interview with Dahmer on YouTube.

He seemed to speak quite forthright and have an acceptance that he was f***ed in the head.

They often come off as introspective in those interviews but it was said in jail he'd taunt fellow inmates with bits of food shaped into limbs and used ketchup as blood.

A far cry from the remorseful, meek and mild born again act we saw in the interviews. No different to how he was on the outside when the situation required it.

 

[Lethality]

All these killers seem to have a similar upbringing. Troubled family, traumatic incident in early childhood which was the turning point.

I.e. The Unabomber was left in an orphanage for a few months and was never the same. Dahmer had kidney surgery and was a different kid afterwards.

There's also the matter of what kids are exposed to while they are developing sexually. I saw somewhere that this can be shaped by portrayal of sex in the media. Apparently this is why gas masks are used in bondage, but only in Europe. A lot of people who grew up in Europe were also exposed to gas masks because of the war, and began to find them arousing. In Dahmers case he was exposed to taxidermy.

 

[Butters and Pepper]

It's also interesting how many of them suffered some type of brain damage. Sometimes it's a convenient excuse (in times when it may not have actually happened to them) but it's been linked to serial killers such as Fred West and Dennis Rader.

In Bundy's case I recall it was it was the revelation that his supposed sister was his mother.

I assume for Dahmer he was just "wired wrong", which was made worse by the bullying he received re his sexuality etc.

Without wanting to derail this thread, there's 2 or 3 SKs that I'm particularly curious about in terms of what factors in their childhood/earlier life set them off.

1 is Israel Keyes, who I know was home-schooled, but I don't really know much about his situation other than to assume it's lack of human connection at a young age that gave him such an indifference to other people......then there's Alcala who was despicable, yet I don't recall anything from his childhood that turned him into the person he became.

Then there's Joseph D'Angelo, who I can only assume time I Vietnam and a relationship break-up tipped him over the edge.

On a broader level, it would be interesting to know what effect a father's exposure to war (or SK themselves returning from war - Vietnam, Gulf etc) has had on various killers over the years (desensitisation to violence, alcoholism, abuse etc)

 

[NonPhixion]

There's a 10 part series on Dahmer that is being released on Netflix today.

just started watching this. The guy has really impersonated his voice well imo, there are times where if i was blindfolded i would think Jeffrey himself was talking

 

[Pamcake1]

Published today in the NYTimes;​

Lionel Dahmer, Who Agonized About Raising a Serial Killer, Dies at 87​

The father of Jeffrey Dahmer, he wrote a memoir that one reviewer said sought to “peer not just into the soul of his son but into his own.”

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Lionel Dahmer and his wife, Shari, at the trial of the serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer, his son, in Milwaukee in 1992. The jury determined that Jeffrey Dahmer was sane and therefore eligible to spend life in prison. Lionel Dahmer later wrote a memoir.Credit...Rick Wood/Associated Press

By Alex Traub
Dec. 12, 2023Updated 7:00 p.m. ET
Lionel Dahmer, the father of the serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer and the author of a haunting memoir about his son’s youth, died on Dec. 5 in Medina, Ohio. He was 87.
His death, at a hospice facility, was confirmed by Jeb Muller, one of his caregivers. Mr. Dahmer had suffered a series of heart attacks in recent years, and his health declined after the death of his wife, Shari Dahmer, in January, Mr. Muller said.
Lionel Dahmer was a little-known, personally reserved industrial chemist before the Dahmer name, thanks to his son, became one of the most notorious in the nation.
In 1991, Jeffrey Dahmer confessed to killing and raping 17 young men and boys over the previous 13 years. He drugged men’s drinks, strangled them, masturbated on their corpses, cut them up with a buzz saw and lined their skulls up in his apartment. He ate some of their body parts.

The entertainment industry has found that his macabre tale sells. Among other television and film projects, Netflix last year released the mini-series “Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story,” which has surpassed a billion hours in viewing time.
Biographical accounts of Jeffrey’s life focus on the violation of essential human taboos — gratifying desire at the outer limits of evil. Jurors at his trial engaged in a tortured deliberation before concluding that he was sane, and that he was therefore eligible to spend life in prison. He was sentenced to 15 life terms.
Lionel’s life, as recounted in his 1994 memoir, “A Father’s Story,” offered an indirect view into that depravity — not the thing itself but a rational mind struggling to make sense of it.

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In his memoir, published in 1994, Lionel Dahmer wrote vividly about the uncanniness of seeing his son’s face, which looked so much like his own, staring at him from the front page of a newspaper.Credit...Echo Point Books & Media, LLC

Lionel sought to “peer not just into the soul of his son but into his own,” the British author Will Self wrote in The New York Times Book Review. “Throughout, the sense of someone constitutionally ill-equipped for introspection of any kind groping toward a vile realization is gripping.”

Mr. Dahmer described himself in his book as “almost totally analytical” — a chemist, comforted by the scientific predictability of his work, whose emotional life resembled a “broad, flat plain.”

Yet he wrote vividly about the uncanniness of seeing Jeffrey’s face, which looked so much like his own, staring at him from the front page of a newspaper, and about revisiting old memories.
“As I recall him in his infancy, I feel overwhelmed by a sense of helpless dread,” Mr. Dahmer wrote. “I dwell on the small, pink hands, and in my mind I watch them grow larger and darker as I think about all that they will later do, of how stained they will become with the blood of others.”
Lionel Herbert Dahmer was born on July 29, 1936, in the suburbs of Milwaukee, where he grew up. His mother, Catherine (Hughes) Dahmer, taught history at an elementary school, and his father, Herbert, taught elementary school math while holding down a second job as a barber.
After attending college at the University of Wisconsin, he became a graduate student in chemistry, earning a master’s degree in the subject at Marquette University and, in 1966, a Ph.D. from Iowa State University.

He married Joyce Flint, a telephone operator who had recently become a teletype machine instructor, in 1959.
She became pregnant days after the wedding. The coming months were a kind of ill omen.
Joyce Dahmer suffered from seizures and emotional fits. Her legs locked into place, she trembled, her jaw jerked to the right and became frighteningly rigid, and she foamed at the mouth. Sometimes the episodes would end only when a doctor injected her with barbiturates and morphine. She took as many as 26 pills a day.
Mr. Dahmer responded by retreating into his work, spending almost all his time at his chemistry lab.
When the couple saw each other, they fought bitterly.
Jeffrey’s birth in 1960 brought about a period of happiness. But the Dahmers never got past the mistrust and alienation that had already set in. During fights, Ms. Dahmer would sometimes pick up a kitchen knife and make jabbing motions. She once left home in her nightgown, walked a few blocks away, entered a field of high grass and lay down.

They divorced in the summer of 1978. Mr. Dahmer married Shari Jordan at the end of the year.
Mr. Dahmer described Jeffrey in his infancy as bubbly and likable. When Mr. Dahmer got home from work, the boy would jump into his arms.

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Jeffrey Dahmer in court. He was found guilty of murdering 17 men and boys and sentenced to 15 life terms.Credit...Curt Borgwardt/Sygma, via Getty Images

He noticed Jeffrey beginning to become withdrawn after a hernia caused a bulge in his scrotum, leading to surgery. After the birth of the couple’s second child, David, Jeffrey adopted an attitude of passivity to hide his emotions, his father wrote.
For years Mr. Dahmer, busy in his laboratory, did not see any reason to get more involved in Jeffrey’s life. He was aware that his son was intensely, problematically awkward; but he recalled feeling that way, too, when he was young. Mr. Dahmer had the fond sense, he wrote, that Jeffrey’s problems could also be seen as indications that father and son were alike.
He learned only years later that Jeffrey had become an alcoholic as a teenager, when the family lived in Bath, a suburb of Akron. Jeffrey would spent his free time roaming around looking for animal remains to inter in his own private cemetery. He stripped the flesh from the bones of roadkill. He mounted a dog’s head on a stake.
Reflecting on his son’s youth, Mr. Dahmer realized that Jeffrey had become completely isolated. And that, Mr. Dahmer came to think, was the source of his son’s necrophilia.

“He was becoming so afraid of other people, so intimidated by their presence, that in order for him to have contact with them, they needed to be dead,” Mr. Dahmer wrote.
Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in a Wisconsin prison in 1994.
Mr. Dahmer is survived by a sister, Eunice Roberts; his son David; and two grandchildren. In recent decades, he and his second wife had lived in Seville, a small northern Ohio town outside Medina.
In September, Fox News’s streaming service, Fox Nation, released its own Dahmer mini-series, “My Son Jeffrey,” which included family home movies and recorded conversations between Lionel and Jeffrey from visits Lionel made to Jeffrey in prison.
Mr. Muller said that Mr. Dahmer was not involved in the recent TV projects about his son. A few years ago, a flood in Mr. Dahmer’s basement prompted him to ask Mr. Muller to throw out or burn artifacts of Jeffrey’s life, including a set of Jeffrey’s cutlery, an old locker and records of his prison commissary purchases.
Lionel made sure to dispose of one thing himself.
He brought a box to a field on the property around his home, opened it and removed from it an urn that had been sent to him by the prison that had housed Jeffrey. He then removed a bag from the urn and waved it around. Jeffrey’s ashes poured out. He said aloud that he hoped Jeffrey would find a resting place.

 

[OnTheRocks]

Lionel Dahmer, Who Agonized About Raising a Serial Killer, Dies at 87

I must have been the heaviest cross to bear for him.