Current Jeffrey Epstein - Dead. Ghislane Maxwell - Not dead yet.

Who killed Jeffrey Epstein?

  • He killed himself

    Votes: 8 11.0%
  • Rank incompetence enabled his suicide

    Votes: 11 15.1%
  • Bill Clinton

    Votes: 19 26.0%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 12 16.4%
  • The Russians

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Saudis

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • MI5/6 - British Royals

    Votes: 13 17.8%
  • Ghislane Maxwell

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Someone's Dad

    Votes: 7 9.6%

  • Total voters
    73

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Hojuman

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So they are not offering any defence saying that she didn’t actually do it. It’s just smoke and mirrors and technical points arguing that she can’t be prosecuted. There is no justice in tactics like this.

And yes, I know that a trial is about testing the law as much as it is about guilt/innocence. And that morals and ethics have no place in a court room.
 

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No way.
Either because either she's too old for him, or she makes his hair melt in her presents and he can't stop thinking about all the things she is accused of.
It's really just all too hard for him.
I bet it is 😉
 

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Maxwell has been charged with sex trafficking between 2001 and 2004.. The girl these new charges pertain to was only 14 years old, I don't think she'll get bail no matter how many times she applies.

She had been previously charged by New York federal prosecutors with conspiracy and enticing minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, and the transportation of minors to engage in criminal sexual activity for allegedly grooming and recruiting underage girls from 1994 through 1997.

 

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Maxwell might never get out. Keith Raniere from NXIVM got 120 years jail for sex trafficking and other crimes including racketeering and one count of child porn but the sex trafficking I think was the biggie.

 

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If anyone is interested in how Epstein made his money like I was, this pod here comes the closest. They don't actually come out and say it but from the outside looking in to me, the most obvious scenario is that Epstein was blackmailing multi billionaire Les Wexner.

Epstein made a few million in a Ponzi scheme he should have gone to jail for but he didn't make big money until Wexner gave him unfettered control of his companies by way of a power of attorney.

 

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If anyone is interested in how Epstein made his money like I was, this pod here comes the closest. They don't actually come out and say it but from the outside looking in to me, the most obvious scenario is that Epstein was blackmailing multi billionaire Les Wexner.

Epstein made a few million in a Ponzi scheme he should have gone to jail for but he didn't make big money until Wexner gave him unfettered control of his companies by way of a power of attorney.

I'd love to know what he had on Wexner, it always looked like a really strange arrangement.
 

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I'd love to know what he had on Wexner, it always looked like a really strange arrangement.
Probably some of the same sort of stuff that Abe Saffron and Co. claimed to have had on a legion of people.
 
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I'd love to know what he had on Wexner, it always looked like a really strange arrangement.
A real strange arrangement, Epstein had power of attorney for twelve years and Wexner has so far refused to cooperate in revealing exactly how much money he says Epstein 'stole'. Yet, even after pulling the power of attorney off Epstein and cutting ties through the first federal investigation Wexner failed to hold him to account but for a trifling 40 odd million he only claims he got back and small change in the bigger scheme. None of the mega mansions initially belonging to Wexner that mysteriously ended up in Epstein's name were returned.
 

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A real strange arrangement, Epstein had power of attorney for twelve years and Wexner has so far refused to cooperate in revealing exactly how much money he says Epstein 'stole'. Yet, even after pulling the power of attorney off Epstein and cutting ties through the first federal investigation Wexner failed to hold him to account but for a trifling 40 odd million he only claims he got back and small change in the bigger scheme. None of the mega mansions initially belonging to Wexner that mysteriously ended up in Epstein's name were returned.
Must have some seriously compromising information on Wexner stashed away somewhere.
 

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Must have some seriously compromising information on Wexner stashed away somewhere.
That's what it looks like. There are independent witness reports of pinhole cameras set up in every room on his properties, not even the toilet is safe and the cameras were monitored by security on gag agreements 24/7. So, where are all the tapes? We heard about all the still photos they found of underage girls but nobody's saying anything about the tapes.
 

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That's what it looks like. There are independent witness reports of pinhole cameras set up in every room on his properties, not even the toilet is safe and the cameras were monitored by security on gag agreements 24/7. So, where are all the tapes? We heard about all the still photos they found of underage girls but nobody's saying anything about the tapes.
Maybe Ghislane knows and is holding out for the deal of a lifetime before giving them up?
 

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Undoubtedly, but the Wexner thing predates that setup, which is what makes it so much more intriguing.
Epstein became one of Wexner's financial managers in 1987 but it wasn't until the 1990s that the big money and property started moving over to Epstein.
 

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Epstein became one of Wexner's financial managers in 1987 but it wasn't until the 1990s that the big money and property started moving over to Epstein.
When did he procure the island, Google says 1998? So he must have been up to 'something' that compromised Wexner before that. A billionaire doesn't just handover power of attorney and a shitload of assets for fun.
 

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