List Mgmt. Jenkins

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  1. ad victoriam

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    Not going to get into an argument over JJ with you as you are One eye on that subject so it would be a waste of time and space.
    But B&F tonight mid-range between 8th and 12th.
     

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  2. Sanders

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    He finished 14th last year, do you think he’s had a better year?
     
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    So completely agree.
     
  4. ad victoriam

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    Already said that between 8th and 12th.
     
  5. Sanders

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    Do you think he’s had a better year?
     
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    In terms of scoreboard No,
    In terms of team role yes.
    He improved his tackles per game Mark inside 50 per game.
    In terms of defensive pressure yes 2016 he was below average for his position in defensive pressure 2017 above average.
    So yes he had a better year.
     
  7. Sanders

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    Well we’ll see if that’s true shortly
     
  8. Murray2503

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    The finals series highlighted jenkins weaknesses which he gets away with in the home and away season. I honestly dont see him as a natural footballler and feel his ability has capped. Would seriously shop him around as he offers little more than joe the goose goals and his gf performance was damning.
     
  9. Betts are off

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    If you guys who keep complaining about JJ can give me the name of a 45-50 goal 2nd Ruck/FWD option then fine, I'm happy to hear it. If not then shut the hell up and just realise when you have a good thing going for you!!!!

    Before you answer, just letting you know 7 teams didn't have a 45 goal kicker in 2017. Also, would hate to find out who else had kicked 193 goals in 4 years before making such a call
     
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    13th on votes per game.

    #fo'mo'years
     
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    You are having a ******* laugh aren’t you?

    His goals are cheap and meaningless

    We saw again last night how little his goals count for in the eyes of the coaching panel

    14th last year
    13th this year

    Joe Daniher won his best n fairest this year with 63 goals
    Ben Brown was 3rd and nearly won his B&F with 62
    Charlie Dixon was 2nd and nearly won his with 49
    Jeremy Cameron was 2nd (votes per game) and he kicked 45

    Heck Tex finished 4th this year on votes per game from 54 - so don’t tell me our coaches don’t rate goals

    Last year JJ finished 14th with his 62

    That’s how little his junk time cheapies are worth, and if you can’t see it then that’s on you

    The coaches see it
     
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  12. Sanders

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    Jack Watts would kick 40-50 in our system, and be a better ruck

    The last point being irrelevant as we could bring back Adam Saliba who’d be as effective in the ruck
     
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    Apparently not
     
  14. ad victoriam

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    Correct this year was not as good as last year, But all he needs to do to correct that is to play more games.
     
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    Yep, that's all he needs to do alright :drunk:
     
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    Let save time, just look at the Year and where and when he polls badly. rounds 2 to 9, Then think how many votes if he did not break a few ribs.
     
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    would be good if his match day output could match his more than generous contract
     
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    And mouth
     
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    You don't see Jenkins free in the back half as often as you do in the forward 50m ... right? He values kicking the goal over just about everything else.

    He doesn't give off the ball very often, just takes the shot at goal from 60m (he kicked one from there before and it got a huge scream from the crowd), he never ever plays to hurt the opposition physically. Brad Crouch plays to hurt, and it's why he is one of my favourite players. BC is fair and not dirty in the slightest ... but if you play on Brad you finish the game with sore spots.

    Jenkins will never lift the Crows off the canvas and carry his team to win, not unless he changes almost everything about himself as a player ... and we have as much chance of that happening as SOS handing over Gibbs for cheap !!
     
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    That doesn't address the issue of his contract though.
     
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    I'd like to know how many of those goals he would have still kicked if he actually made an effort in each pack contest to bring the ball to ground instead of waiting out the back or side, or how many he still would have kicked if he ever expended some energy chasing and putting on some defensive pressure once the opposition got the ball, or how many he still would have kicked if he ever ventured outside the F50 when he was not rucking.

    I'd also like to know how many of the rebound goals we conceded over that time when the opposition just sling the ball back over the heads of our exhausted midfielders who worked their asses off to get the ball into the 50 only to see Jenkins barely leave the ground and throw one hand up while the opposition just outmark him yet again and rebound straight away.

    Would LOVE to see the +/- differential when you factor those things in.
     
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    It will never happen. Pyke needs to keep him on edge with sprays and dropping him to the SANFL. Jenkins lift FFS!
     
  23. Betts are off

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    Yep, you just named 5 players, none of which play second Ruck.... good call though
     
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    Wat?
     
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    They're all full time forwards now
     
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