List Mgmt. Jeremy Cameron traded to Geelong

[catswhiskers]

I just can't help but feel that if we lose the picks we got in the Kelly deal for Cameron, we're still coming out slightly behind. Admittedly, Kelly wasn't happy and his form this year hasn't been as great, but he was massive for us and could've been anything if he had been content to stay. Cameron will be 28 next year, so he has maybe 3 years left in him as a genuine A+ forward before he slides. Kelly had years on him, so the value differential isn't really compensated if we have to give those picks up for Cameron. Am I missing anything here?

Hawkins is 32 and still the AA FF . Cameron finished at 31 ? might be if injury hits but he is likely to be very valuable 5 + years. As others have pointed out Kelly (midfielders) are easier to replace = Mena,Guth and Parf. Replacing a KPF is much tougher.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Iv got a feeling they will push Sav into maybe focusing him into playing Ruck...

Scott has consistently said that's where they see his future.

 

[Giant Pete]

3 first rounders thanks.

 

[Seeds]

I would do that deal in a heartbeat.

He is 28 In the first month of next season coming off a poor year. many great key fowards peaks have been over by the age of 28. Hawkins is the odd one out.

 

[Commando]

3 first rounders thanks.

first 3rd rounder?

 

[FredLeDeux]

3 first rounders thanks.

Surely you mean pretty please.

 

[Seeds]

Scott has consistently said that's where they see his future.

And thats why he cant get a game after being a lock at the start of the season as a foward. He has been pushed into a position he aint all that good at.

 

[The Unforgiven]

Cameron grew up in Dartmoor, and yes it's Western Victoria but I wouldn't say within the Geelong region - it's roughly 300km from Geelong or 368km from Melbourne

Never said his decision wasn't about being closer to family or anything of the sort - unless he comments on reasons behind his decision then it will be speculation. What I said is that most of our FA or recent trade acquisitions have tended to have connections to Geelong either the region or club: Dangerfield, Henderson, Steven, Dahlhaus, Ablett & Rohan are from the Geelong region, while Scooter obviously had 2 brothers involved with the club

With Cameron there's no clear connection to Geelong

At this stage there isn't, but we don't really know anything at this stage. I would say that Geelong being the club that it is has been the determining factor.

However, being a regional club and being the closest AFL club geographically to his home town would have to contribute somewhat.

Time will tell - I'm sure the question will be asked of him.

 

[BORIS332]

3 first rounders thanks.

I get the impression you won't be able to match our money to force a trade or, if you can, it won't be the ideal scenario. Having said that, we usually come to the table with a fair deal. Definitely two first round picks, not sure you'll get the third, not that I don't think he's worth three.

 

[WeAreGeelong]

Loving the salty tears from everyone. They all forget we lost the GOAT at the height of his powers to one of these AFL made clubs and we were a pretty decent side at the time. Richmond got Lynch a year after they won a flag, Collingwood took Treloar, Adams and Hoskin Elliot and that is OK, but apperently free agency is killing the game because Cameron wants to get to Geelong. Swings and roundabouts I say.

I could not be happier or prouder to be a Geelong Football Club supporter right now. Go the mighty Cats!!!!

 

[you pick one]

Scott has consistently said that's where they see his future.

Is he expecting a growth spurt,will never be a number one ruck,leap or no leap.Handy second at best.

 

[Down at K Park]

Has any club other than us been forced to trade for a free agent?

 

[catempire]

Tom Morris playing video game trade week

 

[BORIS332]

Iv got a feeling they will push Sav into maybe focusing him into playing Ruck...

It's really his only option now. Hawkins has a two (?) year deal, Danger will be 100% forward in the near future, and now Jezza is arriving too. At least Ratugolea can go into the ruck, the situation is much more dire for Kreuger, and Jenkins career is now over.

 

[catempire]

3 first rounders thanks.

Setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[catempire]

And thats why he cant get a game after being a lock at the start of the season as a foward. He has been pushed into a position he aint all that good at.

*ain’t ready for and ain’t better than at than Stanley

 

[catempire]

Is he expecting a growth spurt,will never be a number one ruck,leap or no leap.Handy second at best.

Same height as Paddy Ryder.

 

[supahoops]

Jezza just ended Josh Jenkins

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Josh Jenkins

Age

35

Ht

200cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.1

4star

HB

3.8

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.6

5star

career.

Jenkins to GWS?

 

[The_Todd07]

Hell of a couple of days for the club

 

[Seeds]

*ain’t ready for and ain’t better than at than Stanley

Which i agree with. i even think blicavs might be slightly better as a ruckman then Sav.

 

[catempire]

Which i agree with. i even think blicavs might be slightly better as a ruckman then Sav.

Right now, yes. But the club has always spoken of him as a ruck prospect. No need to be concerned that he’s not the finished product at 22.

 

[Chinacats]

Giants get a compo pick and we still have to do a trade?

 

[Lana]

They've trade out of the draft last year, they have no real leverage, Adelaide had a higher pick in the draft. If the Williams free agency doesn't get them a first round pick then they're s**t out of luck, even if it does they're still in a bad position. If they threaten to match FA, we should make it clear that we'll take the Luke Ball

Luke Ball

Age

39

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.4

5star

K

10.9

4star

HB

9.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.5

5star

CL

4.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

8.8

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.8

5star

approach, We have quite a few players on long term deal, to front load a portion of Cameron's deal.

I consider not getting Cameron less harmful for us then GWS either losing him for nothing or using a their Williams compensation first round pick to retain him.

 

[foxdog50]

Fox Footy said Giants are likely to match the offer...

 

[And_ROOS]

In a lot of games GWS couldn't get it forward to him so his down year isn't all on him. I will try and find the inside 50 number for them later but it was abysmal for a lot of the year

Totals for the season (not including finals);
GWS had 649 inside 50s, they took 136 marks inside 50, 161 Centre Clearances.
Geelong had 685 inside 50s, they took 174 marks inside 50, 190 Centre Clearances.

Cameron had 37 i50s and took 21 marks inside 50. He had 82 score involvements. 24 goals, 13 behinds, 9 goal assists.
Hawkins had 25 i50s and took 57 marks inside 50. He had 119 score involvements. 42 goals, 25 behinds, 19 goal assists.
Both Hawkins and Cameron played 17 games, Hawkins averages 95.5% game time, Cameron averages 90% game time.