Confirmed Jesse Hogan [traded with #65 to Fremantle for #6 and #23]

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Given the rumors I've heard Melbourne dodged a bullet and made out like bandits by pawning him off to Freo when his trade value was close to its highest.
6 and 23, pfft, that's not even close to what they would have received from Lloyd and Bond.


But this isnt really about any of that, it's about those yarns you heard. Must be some corkers for you to come and post in here...


I know you are a Hawks fan, but with all the shit that's coming out these days it goes to show just how deceptive Melbourne fans really are, they had themselves believing he wasnt on the shit every weekend. That or they are a clueless bunch of turtlenecks...

EDIT: Apparently you being a Hawks fan changes things :huh:
 
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fwiw Hogan is a gun.

He will kick 50+ goals for Freo if he stays on the park this year.

The fact Freo got him for less than 2 first roundpicks was a great deal for them

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Will be the reason Melbourne don’t make top 4 this year in my opinion
Nah, we'll be a better team in 2019.

Viney is massive for us and like a new recruit having played only 7 games in the H&A.

May is a great addition, as is Kolodjashnij.

Hopefully Lever plays most of the year.

Weideman will be playing his 4th season and has bulked up over the off-season.

And other sub 100 game players, such as Brayshaw, Neal-Bullen, Oliver, Harmes, Petracca, Oscar McDonald, Salem, Fritsch, vandenBerg, Hunt, Hannan, Spargo can keep improving.
 
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There were interesting takes on Hogan last year. Some saying we play better without him. Then sometimes the same people saying we shouldn’t trade him. Last year Hogan certainly played he better games against the lower sides when we won more easily. However look back over the few years prior and it wasn’t always the case.
As mentioned above if we can get a full season out of Viney and Lever doesn’t miss too much, on top of May and KK, we’re going ok. As well and the younger players having natural improvement.
 
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Watched Hogan train a few times since they all came back from the break. Foot injury has heeled bloody well. He's running heaps of laps and joining more of the main session each week, but not joining in match sims yet. Best case scenario so far. He's also looking motivated and appears to be fitting in very well with team mates.

For what it is worth if you live in Melbourne I wouldnt believe any of the dribble from radio hosts like Hardie. So far this preseason ive seen with my own eyes that they make stuff up. There was a story on Perth radio that the Dockers had a massive injury crisis, including Brad Hill re-injuring his leg. I went to training that day and saw an injury rehab group of 4, including Hogan. Brad Hill trained the whole session. There's also been a story on Perth radio that Hogan wouldnt be available to mid season. Hogan told a group of people who watch our training regularly he was on track to play round 1 barring a setback.

Honestly think the trade will benefit everyone involved. Its definitely reasonable to assume that someone who's been through what Hogan has in recent years benefits from being closer to family. Id be confident that Melbourne signed off on the trade because it allowed them to be compassionate to Hogan while at the same time brining in an overall package to the club (May, Kolo, 23) that makes sense from a football point of view.

Interestingly enough what many might not know is that pick 65 to Freo was also part of the trade. After all the multiple pick bids for Academy and Father Son prospects that pick got Freo Brett Bewley at 59. Brett Bewley has been training to rave reviews and has been discussed as a player who wi debut round 1.
 
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There were interesting takes on Hogan last year. Some saying we play better without him. Then sometimes the same people saying we shouldn’t trade him. Last year Hogan certainly played he better games against the lower sides when we won more easily. However look back over the few years prior and it wasn’t always the case.
As mentioned above if we can get a full season out of Viney and Lever doesn’t miss too much, on top of May and KK, we’re going ok. As well and the younger players having natural improvement.
TBH i don't think we will ever know how much you will truly miss him. There is so much natural development within your list as it stands plus the inclusions of the four guys you mentioned that your team is going to continue to progress with or without Jesse.
 

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TBH i don't think we will ever know how much you will truly miss him. There is so much natural development within your list as it stands plus the inclusions of the four guys you mentioned that your team is going to continue to progress with or without Jesse.
It's all about the impact May has for us. Last season key forward tore us to shreds. We were easily the highest scoring team in the league but conceded too easily. If May can save us a couple goals every game it will make more of a difference for us than Hogan playing as the 2nd forward. Plus we would have lost Weideman
 

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It's all about the impact May has for us. Last season key forward tore us to shreds. We were easily the highest scoring team in the league but conceded too easily. If May can save us a couple goals every game it will make more of a difference for us than Hogan playing as the 2nd forward. Plus we would have lost Weideman
Add Viney into the mix and further development for the likes of Oliver and the supply is going to be more and more sporadic for those opposition monsters which by proxy will help May.
 

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Add Viney into the mix and further development for the likes of Oliver and the supply is going to be more and more sporadic for those opposition monsters which by proxy will help May.
Not to mention a fully fit Jake Lever probably helps. You look at any back 6 and then add a ( fingers crossed) firing May and lever to it and well good things can happen!
 
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