Jesse Smith

[H_Star]

Funny considering our young, apparently useless, "worst list in the comp", "gloomy future" team put shame to every single one of the posters on here aside from Pies, Cats and Port fans this year SUCK SH*T.
Dogs? Put the tiniest bit of expectation on the shoulders of this mob and they crumble to a pathetic level and can't even make the 8 after being suspected of being a top 4, premiership contender not even 12 months earlier. How many top ten draft picks on this list are doing basically nothing? All these supposed future stars that were thoroughly f*cking BENT OVER by our mob twice this year. Explain how this gives you a better list and future than ours d*ckhead.
All these people saying Smith is all we have to hang on to? Are you out of your f*cking mind? You said what else have we got? Do you know a young bloke called Hamish McIntosh? Just about AA, best young ruckman in the comp, you WISH you had him. Harris? Just so you know he isn't old at all, and he (along with Smith) destroyed the Hawks in the semi whilst playing on the Clearance King Mitchell (taking nothing away from Mitchell hawks fans, absolute gun). Before Wells was injured he was top 5 in the Brownlow, wait for him to play a full year uninjured and all you f*ckwits will be running in the other direction. Swallow? McMahon? Lower? Firrito? Pratt? - How many good players - that have many years left in the game - do i have to name before you morons realize we aren't sh*t?
H-Star...you f*cking Newbie imbecile, get a bit more jealous about our club why don't you? You are shaping up to be the next Bring-Back-Powell, so keep it up. Explain how we finished 3rd if we only have the list and organizational ability to finish 16th genius. Go ahead.

youre obviously a stupid **** and cant understand the difference between a sporting club and a playing list, so youve just

hamish mcintosh 'almost' all australian? there are no awards for 'almost' being a good ruckman. ****, brian harris was almost AA! daniel harris is shit.. he just looks good in your talentless midfield... shit skills.

Swallow? McMahon? Lower? Firrito? Pratt?

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahhahahahahahahhahaha.

try robert murphy, lindsay gilbee, adam cooney, ryan griffen, tom williams, shaun higgins, andrejs everitt to name a few. i dont think your blokes are in the same category as that.

why is it that only north melbourne supporters cant see how shit their club really is? have fun up on the gold coast *******s...

 

[jacko57]

youre obviously a stupid **** and cant understand the difference between a sporting club and a playing list, so youve just

hamish mcintosh 'almost' all australian? there are no awards for 'almost' being a good ruckman. ****, brian harris was almost AA! daniel harris is shit.. he just looks good in your talentless midfield... shit skills.

Swallow? McMahon? Lower? Firrito? Pratt?

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahhahahahahahahhahaha.

try robert murphy, lindsay gilbee, adam cooney, ryan griffen, tom williams, shaun higgins, andrejs everitt to name a few. i dont think your blokes are in the same category as that.

why is it that only north melbourne supporters cant see how shit their club really is? have fun up on the gold coast *******s...

LOL, how come your star-studded lineup looked so hopeless against the Roos twice this year ?? And finished well below us on the ladder ?

Do you realise how foolish you look trying to troll Roos fans after those games ?

 

[davey_magik]

He did play in the midfield, that was one of the few games he actually had some decent game time in the guts. Oh of course, because no midfielders are running types are they? What the hell do you think they all do besides the in and under players?

Actually if he actually went near the midfield that night he didn't get a sniff of it there, all his possessions were playing off the HBF.

I'm sorry, but I can't see the guy dominating in the midfield. Take it or leave it Roos fans, some of you have to realise not all opposition supporters are going to agree you when you tout a guy as a future superstar.

 

[CaptainDavey]

Actually if he actually went near the midfield that night he didn't get a sniff of it there, all his possessions were playing off the HBF.

I'm sorry, but I can't see the guy dominating in the midfield. Take it or leave it Roos fans, some of you have to realise not all opposition supporters are going to agree you when you tout a guy as a future superstar.

He'll be good...But not THAT good

 

[spurs]

do you north melbourne supporters realise that you barrack for the worst professional sporting club in the country?

do you realise that you support the worst performing sporting club in history.w***er

 

[AGC]

do you north melbourne supporters realise that you barrack for the worst professional sporting club in the country?

I'm sorry, are you suggesting that 1 premiership 50 years ago is better then 4 premierships?

The Dogs are in a financial situation as dire as the Roos, and it can bet that the Roos will have a higher memebership next year. Should the Roos stave off relocation, the focus will turn on putting a team in Western Sydney. And guess which team is going to fit that bill perfectly.

youre obviously a stupid **** and cant understand the difference between a sporting club and a playing list, so youve just

hamish mcintosh 'almost' all australian? there are no awards for 'almost' being a good ruckman. ****, brian harris was almost AA! (Which of course is why he got nominated for AA Top 40) daniel harris is shit.. he just looks good in your talentless midfield... shit skills. (Mmm I think you just looked like an idiot with that statement. I'm not sure how you can look good in a talentless midfield, when one of the players in that midfield finished 2nd in the Brownlow. Add to that (although this accolade doesn't carry much weight) he was in Sheehan's top 50.
Swallow? McMahon? Lower? Firrito? Pratt?

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahhahahahahahahhahaha.

try robert murphy, lindsay gilbee, adam cooney, ryan griffen, tom williams, shaun higgins, andrejs everitt to name a few. i dont think your blokes are in the same category as that. (Correct me if I am wrong, but did you just name 3 players who haven't even played over 50 games between them)?

why is it that only north melbourne supporters cant see how shit their club really is? have fun up on the gold coast *******s...

Well get back to us when you see your team win a premiership or at least don't rely on the power of a 20c piece of a 7 year old, to make one of your greatest clubman remain at your club.

 

[Tony Delaney]

He is a gun and could be anything. May be wrong but there is something about him that suggests superstar.

 

[wells is god]

youre obviously a stupid **** and cant understand the difference between a sporting club and a playing list, so youve just

hamish mcintosh 'almost' all australian? there are no awards for 'almost' being a good ruckman. ****, brian harris was almost AA! daniel harris is shit.. he just looks good in your talentless midfield... shit skills.

Swallow? McMahon? Lower? Firrito? Pratt?

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahhahahahahahahhahaha.

try robert murphy, lindsay gilbee, adam cooney, ryan griffen, tom williams, shaun higgins, andrejs everitt to name a few. i dont think your blokes are in the same category as that.

why is it that only north melbourne supporters cant see how shit their club really is? have fun up on the gold coast *******s...

I was responding to the comment that we have no young players moron. I just named several that have made your side (and many others) this year look very ordinary. If all those young players of yours are so good why did you disappoint everyone this year and fail to even make September football? And why did we make it to one game before the GF? Come on you f*ckin troll, back up what you're saying properly. If they are all so useless how come they comprehensively achieved more than your team? How does that work?
Oh and regarding Harris, HAHAHAHAHAHA. You just lost any scrap of credibility you had. He would fit into almost any midfield. Barely a clearance player in the league better than him. You really just don't have a clue do you?

 

[scottywiper]

People, stop arguing with the nuff nuffs.
It flatters them.

 

[H_Star]

I was responding to the comment that we have no young players moron. I just named several that have made your side (and many others) this year look very ordinary. If all those young players of yours are so good why did you disappoint everyone this year and fail to even make September football? And why did we make it to one game before the GF? Come on you f*ckin troll, back up what you're saying properly. If they are all so useless how come they comprehensively achieved more than your team? How does that work?
Oh and regarding Harris, HAHAHAHAHAHA. You just lost any scrap of credibility you had. He would fit into almost any midfield. Barely a clearance player in the league better than him. You really just don't have a clue do you?

my side made your side look very ordinary last year, the difference being is that we had a bad year this year.. your side overachieved. things are only going to get better for us BECAUSE of all our young talented players... north melbourne are on their way back down due to their LACK of young talented players. why cant you see this you f*ck wits? everyone outside north melbourne can.

 

[Lupton Warchild Pittman]

From this year's Rising star group, as I said before - Selwood is the onl one who will et close to Smith. Smith and Selwood tick all the boxes - Courage, Skill, Speed, Smarts, Versatility, Genuine hardness. The others don't. The have qualities, but they also have obvious flaws. Jesse don't.

Pendlebury & Selwood are the 2 standouts in this years batch.

Smith is a fair way behind the two, he has no special traits that are of an elite standard, i.e. Pendlebury's ability to make space in such tight situations.

 

[jacko57]

my side made your side look very ordinary last year, the difference being is that we had a bad year this year.. your side overachieved. things are only going to get better for us BECAUSE of all our young talented players... north melbourne are on their way back down due to their LACK of young talented players. why cant you see this you f*ck wits? everyone outside north melbourne can.

LOL, you are clueless, and continue to prove it with every angry little post about how good the Dogs are gonna be.

Get back to us when you've won your second flag ; I won't hold my breath.

 

[AGC]

my side made your side look very ordinary last year, the difference being is that we had a bad year this year.. your side overachieved. things are only going to get better for us BECAUSE of all our young talented players... north melbourne are on their way back down due to their LACK of young talented players. why cant you see this you f*ck wits? everyone outside north melbourne can.

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Kangaroos beat the Dogs in 2006? I hope you do realise that when we played your team in Round 22, we had a younger team then yours.

 

[Lidge]

He is a gun and could be anything. May be wrong but there is something about him that suggests superstar.

That rare blend of vision, poise & awareness. He sees the game in slow motion.

Being a Bombers fan you know what I'm talking about. Between his ears, he's got what Hird has/had. You can't teach it. You either have it or you don't.

Plus he's got more onfield arrogance than a young Wayne Carey.

He's only just starting his footy journey, but jump on board everyone, it's going to be one hell of a ride.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

my side made your side look very ordinary last year, the difference being is that we had a bad year this year.. your side overachieved. things are only going to get better for us BECAUSE of all our young talented players... north melbourne are on their way back down due to their LACK of young talented players. why cant you see this you f*ck wits? everyone outside north melbourne can.

Yeah, yeah, Footscray call better than average types who never won a flag 'greats'.

What do you know about real talent?

 

[bluespooner]

3rd >> 5th.


You talk shit. Better you keep your demented delusional crap to the Whorethorn forum. I realise it must be eating you alive, but deal with it.

Propaganda threads in which kangaroo supporters feel they need to exorcise their insecurities by engaging in hyperbole are best confined on your own narrow-minded board.

This main board has aspirations to be something better, even though I know in pointing this out I am undoubtedly wasting my time on the dimwitted such as yourself.

 

[jacko57]

This main board has aspirations to be something better

Then please remove yourself.

 

[Bulldog1954]

or at least don't rely on the power of a 20c piece of a 7 year old, to make one of your greatest clubman remain at your club.

How is that a criticism of the club? Anyone with half a brain knows he didn't stay because of a 20 cent coin, he stayed because he loved the club. what are you trying to say?

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

How is that a criticism of the club? Anyone with half a brain knows he didn't stay because of a 20 cent coin, he stayed because he loved the club. what are you trying to say?

If he loved the club so much, why the repeated filirtations with others.

Let's face it, Grant is a mercenary dog.

Albeit a very cheap one. Judd got millions, Grant got 20c.

 

[Jeremias]

Firstly, the comparisons between Smith and Birchall match up in that they are both beutiful kicks, both sent a lot of time off a HBF, are both tall and both played finals this year. It ends there. Birchall is your quintessential loose kick gathering HBFer. Jesse is not. When playing back Jesse took an opponent eah week. Usually a small, dangerous, quick opponent like a Davey or Lovett. He beat them too, but still got his possessions. Jesse will also regularly run backwards into a pack. And there is now way The Birch has Jesse's sidestep. Birchall is a good player, but he won't be a Smith kind of star (nowhere near it).

Suprising that Melnourne supporters are so Smith illiterate given they would have seen him run down Aaron Davey on a wing from a fair way back and also show his verstality in playing small or tall in defence when he swapped to Newton after he was killing Leigh Bornw, and subsequently killed Newton. I guess you don't see as well from behind the glass.

Secondly, in the bloke who mentioned Moran - I can't remember the thread, but if it was talking about a 200cm freak who runs like a midfielder and ripped up his first two games, and the excitement over him...I would still be excited if we still had him. I wish we did. Can be a star if he is given free reign in the ruck. Unfortunately he struggled for game time due to the meteroic rise of Hamish McIntosh this season and the fact we had a ruck combo that was working very well as it got us to top four. The kid got impatient, he'll compete with weaker ruck stockd in SA and probably kill it. It sucks, but I'll move on.

Thirdly..this age argument. If Smith didn't break his ankle in the last practice match before the 2006 season he would have ripped up 2006 ike he did 2007. Actually, he would have been better given he wouldn't have been coming off a broken ankle. His 2006 pre-season was outstanding. He took apart each game he played in. Best pre-season performance I have seen from a North player in a long time.

From this year's Rising star group, as I said before - Selwood is the onl one who will et close to Smith. Smith and Selwood tick all the boxes - Courage, Skill, Speed, Smarts, Versatility, Genuine hardness. The others don't. The have qualities, but they also have obvious flaws. Jesse don't.

And on Wells, you are writing him off like we have given up. Not close. He was humming along very nicely at the start of this season, averaging 23, 1 goal and three shots at goal a game. Injury hit him round 7, he came OK - but the man is ready - don't worry about that, and with Smith and Wells in the midfield you can prepare to be cut apart - and that is before you think about Boomer.

Good post, and I agree with most of it.

However, the bolded part is absolute bullshit.

Smith had a very good year, and will be a very good player for a long time. But to say that he doesn't have any weaknesses is absolute bullshit. Every single player has weaknesses, and to think otherwise is very silly and naive.

Don't get carried away-sure he's a big talent, but he has weaknesses. Every player does. Smith isn't even the best player to come from this years NRS nominees.

 

[Bulldog1954]

If he loved the club so much, why the repeated filirtations with others.

Let's face it, Grant is a mercenary dog.

Albeit a very cheap one. Judd got millions, Grant got 20c.

Thankyou for just proving yourself the most idiotic poster on this site

 

[The Zebra]

Good post, and I agree with most of it.

However, the bolded part is absolute bullshit.

Smith had a very good year, and will be a very good player for a long time. But to say that he doesn't have any weaknesses is absolute bullshit. Every single player has weaknesses, and to think otherwise is very silly and naive.

Don't get carried away-sure he's a big talent, but he has weaknesses. Every player does. Smith isn't even the best player to come from this years NRS nominees.

I am not saying Jesse is perfect, just that he doesn't have any obvious deficiencies.

Look at Pendlebury - quality, but is suspect with his head over the ball and hasn't yet displayed the qualities of a courageous footballer

Jones is great in a contest but decision making is questionable and looks a bit limited in his depth of kicking and he is pretty small.

Hurn is a beatiful kick but doesn't have the explosive pace.

It is hard to identify the flaw in Jesse's game. Beautiful kick, good overhead, great pace, courageous player, great defensive side, composed, confident in his ability..

He is going to have to do it time and time again to become a genuine star of the comp - and that is far from certain, because so many don't get there - but it is hard to identify an obvious wekness in him as a footballer.

Hard to find the real weakness with Selwood as well.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

Thankyou for just proving yourself the most idiotic poster on this site

Says a man who has 'VD Clinic' as his location.

Grant, West, Smith, Darcy - all these Bulldog 'geats' who never did eff all.

 

[Deenamite]

I am not saying Jesse is perfect, just that he doesn't have any obvious deficiencies.

Look at Pendlebury - quality, but is suspect with his head over the ball and hasn't yet displayed the qualities of a courageous footballer

Jones is great in a contest but decision making is questionable and looks a bit limited in his depth of kicking and he is pretty small.

Hurn is a beatiful kick but doesn't have the explosive pace.

It is hard to identify the flaw in Jesse's game. Beautiful kick, good overhead, great pace, courageous player, great defensive side, composed, confident in his ability..

He is going to have to do it time and time again to become a genuine star of the comp - and that is far from certain, because so many don't get there - but it is hard to identify an obvious wekness in him as a footballer.

Hard to find the real weakness with Selwood as well.

So why he didn't he do well in the Rising Star? If there were no flaws in his game would he not have done better?

 

[The Zebra]

So why he didn't he do well in the Rising Star? If there were no flaws in his game would he not have done better?

There are plenty of stars that didn't win the rising star.

I look a bit deeper than things like a media driven award where guys like Adrian Anderson and Andrew Demetriou get a vote.

Height, speed, courage, skill, composure, footbal brain, toughness, defensive and offensive side, leadership - there is not obvious, exploitable weakness in his game at this point.