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JLT 2018
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And 13th is where the general consensus of the afl world has us.
Freo have been lucky of late being able to trade in positional needs like McCarthy Hambley Wilson , all for a packet of chips each. Lucky to get rid of Mayne for good pick.
Its time we went hard for Mids
Its time we went hard for Mids
Just as an example, who would you prefer in your team right now. Rory Sloane or Jeremy Mcgovern? Which one would be the best value for a million dollars per season to make your side a better side?
I am not saying I don't want Gov but I would not be paying overs to keep him as he won't be the difference in us ever winning a flag. Midfielders are.
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Vardy is an important player also , good mover and has that pace to move forward . Lycett could play FF , if we had more available ruckman he could have filled the void untill Kennedy returns .
Seen a photo of Kennedy's ankle after the operation , wasn't a pretty sight and not surprised that JK is taking his time .
Seen a photo of Kennedy's ankle after the operation , wasn't a pretty sight and not surprised that JK is taking his time .
Bingo.
We recruit players that we “THINK” we can develop into full time midfielders.
I call them the hybrid midfielders.
It’s a flawed and unbalanced implementation of how we should have gone about recruiting our midfield.
Duggan and Venables were never pure mids in the TAC cup competition.
Duggan played off a HBF and DV was a HFF , sure there both were given runs through the midfield but it was part of the rotations and neither players primary role was midfield duties. ( Side note both are very talented players .... just not pure mids )
Case in point in the recent draft we passed on a pure midfielder in Charlie Constable his last two JTL games for Gellong have seen him rack up 22 and 18 possessions. He is now honing his midfield craft NOT learning how to play it.
We for some #%*^ reason don’t draft natural ballhawkes .... cue my weekly Bailey Banfield reminder.
It’s part of why I don’t rate or have any confidence in our recruiting team as far as midfielders go.
They go players with potentially positional versatility over players who are capable of playing pure midfield roles. ( Yet most weeks we are beaten at stoppages, in clearances and in contested possessions.
Hard to get forward supply and entry if you don’t have the ball.)
These decisions are exasperated by the fact we just don’t develop player well period. Therefore the recruiting teams choices are not supported by adequate player development. The frustrating thing is that the pattern just keeps being repeated in successive years.
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a difffernt result.”
Yet we keep doing it .
Fair point and definitely something that needs to be rectified going forward. Though I still think we have a starting midfield group that is solid enough.
Shuey, Redden, Sheed, Gaff, Hutchings are all natural accumulators, and I'm of the view that Yeo should be played as a full time mid this year as I believe he has the ability too. Ah chee will also provide a spark in the middle once fit again.
Duggan and Venables should absolutely play as primarily flankers, both have the ability to be elite HB and HF for us in the next 10 years.
This gives us a starting midfield group of:
Nic Nat Shuey Yeo
Gaff Redden Sheed
Hutchings and Ah Chee rotating off the bench.
There is no reason why this midfield shouldn't be considered in the 8-12 range in the comp, which should still make us competitive this year with a top 5 backline and kennedy.
As dismal as we were vs freo lets not forget 6 of those guys above had 20+ touches vs port, with nic nat still to come back.
I think depth is more our issue. An injury or two will significantly impact our midfield this year, and it is vital we draft pure mids going forward
Vardy out does suck because he is a decent forward and he would have been perfect playing that FF role till JK comes back.
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I mean come on. Just like Banfield, he was right in front of us, so obvious it's not even funny.
You do realise when we had Nic up and running we still were regarded as a mid table midfield.
Yes Charlie Constable at a pick in the 40s was very surprising .
Pick 36 actually
Not to mention Worpel even later at 45.
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Tough question since our midfield sux. I would still say Mcgovern.
There are good mids in every draft. There are very few Mcgoverns though.
Very true ...Ainsworth is impressive and so is Petruccelli with his pace .
I'm not that fussed about the pace thing Geelong have done well and expect them to be thereabouts again this season .
Yes there are good mids in every draft but as we are never willing to give up our good Backs or Forwards we can never get hold of them. Draft picks don't get you these players. You have to give up big names to get a big name especially over here in the West.
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Lucky there were no photos of him at the pub on Saturday night, definitely taking his time coming back
Yep, good footballers don't need pace to burn. Good footballers without pace are just as damaging. Sam Mitchell and Pendlebury are not quick but have both been guns for a long period.
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Fremantle fan checking in, was at the game while not many you guys did show some good sparks. Gov is still a great intercept mark and Ainsworth is looking good. Ryan had a good start which is what you want him to do in games. Even though it's good beating you guys it's only pre-season and reality has to set in. I enjoy seeing you guys play well and am looking for to seeing your new look team. Although you're gonna need to pray Nat and JK get back for Round 1 because I don't think you guys can only rely on Darling and your smalls. I'm hoping our good form transitions into at least a competitive performance against PA. Have a good day guys and good luck for Round 1!!!!
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Brander needs a good run for EP this weekend after only playing a few minutes yesterday. Should at least be given a chance to audition for a spot. Waterman deserves an opportunity, but we need to consider a taller option as well with the ball often being bombed in.
Would probably be easier to swallow if the club that picked him up wasn’t the one down the road..I'll be whinging about missing out on Banfield for his entire career
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Guys bagging the midfield after yesterday should watch the JLT replay v Port ..The midfield performance was solid and at times very attacking through the middle ..
Now I don’t know what the heck happened yesterday but I’m bullish about them firing up rd 1 ..
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Now I don’t know what the heck happened yesterday but I’m bullish about them firing up rd 1 ..
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I don’t think we will see that performance round 1- how flat we seemed yesterday compared to versus port was really strange. Concerning, but it’s preseason. As long as there were no major injuries and our young blokes learnt some stuff we will be fine.
Supply is still an issue- plus combined with the inexperienced forward line was always going to be a struggle yesterday.
Also, I see Redden only attended 9 CBA’s yesterday? I thought he would be in most of those.
Supply is still an issue- plus combined with the inexperienced forward line was always going to be a struggle yesterday.
Also, I see Redden only attended 9 CBA’s yesterday? I thought he would be in most of those.
I was thinking something similar. By being a bit half and half in terms of contending or rebuilding we give ourselves a Sydney type outlook. Always there or thereabouts for more than a decade and never going full scale rebuild. Only difference is Sydney give their young guys a go so hopefully form is rewarded and vice versa for out of form players this year
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I'm also hoping that performance was just an anomaly since they were very good against Port, hopefully they can get back to that form in 2 weeks time. Just don't really understand how they could play that badly yesterday.
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The decision to leave Brander on the bench for so long mystifies me. Game was over in second quarter put the kid on and give him a chance to show his wares.
