Autopsy JLT Community Series - Game 2, 2019: Western Bulldogs v St.Kilda

Who Wins?

  • Bulldogs

    Votes: 8 14.8%
  • Saints

    Votes: 46 85.2%

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No doubt. They always tell no paid people that sort of information especially before they get final results. I’ve got to be honest and say I don’t even think the players would know yet. And I’m not doubting you got a text
Re Stuv's mental health;

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My guess is the conversation would have gone something like this. She says how are they. They say hopefully everything is ok. We kept them in hospital for precautionary reasons. In others words we will find out more soon. They don’t even the results yet according to leathlean.
Wife's a nurse. For anything with urgency they would know definitely by now.

Would have been done on Sunday. Ecg, holter monitor, read the device etc.

They don't just go oh blokes had a device fitted to his heart to maintain its rhythm and keep him alive, he's come in complaining of feeling off, let's just leave it till later!
 

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Wife's a nurse. For anything with urgency they would know definitely by now.
Can't comment on Robbo, but with Paddy if concussion is an issue then that statement is not right. With concussion and TBI's symptoms can be up and down and be slower or faster. Sometimes people are initially ok, but then get worse. Yes if Paddy had a brain bleed or something immediately serious they would know by now and if that was suspected it is why hospitalisation is recommended just in case major intervention is required. (Wife survived her TBI, nephew died after being king hit and going to bed rather than hospital). However the micro damage that can be done to the brain by concussion can be such that scans do not show it and so real long-term harm may have been done that only time will reveal.

Paddy may be ok, or he may not be. But with concussion no one will this quickly know if he is ok or not. They will keep re-testing him throughout the week and let us all hope that he recovers ok and that this incident was nothing much. But it is only Monday, and if he was concussed during the game he will go through the tests this week till his results keep showing he is ok.
 

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Re Stuv's mental health;



:think:
I was expecting that response. You must love giving it and I look forward to your reply after mine. One comes from a unpaid person before the club even know as leathlean has said. Fact. The other, mine. Comes from me after I texted jack and then got a positive reply. Now you can choose to beleivene or not. That is your choice. Doesn’t matter either way. With the other I’m not even doubting they said they should be fine. What I’m doubting is the idea that anyone knows yet because of the reasons given. If people want to believe it then fine I’m just pointing the stupidity of believing it. And what is ok anyway. They will live? I would certainly think so. They will play round one? To me ok in a footy sense means yes. The players don’t even know that. On my assumption that jack will be fine was in response to him missing long term. He won’t from my understanding. Anyway you most have loved picking it up. Hope my response explains the difference
 

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Wife's a nurse. For anything with urgency they would know definitely by now.

Would have been done on Sunday. Ecg, holter monitor, read the device etc.

They don't just go oh blokes had a device fitted to his heart to maintain its rhythm and keep him alive, he's come in complaining of feeling off, let's just leave it till later!
And does your wife just tell anyone? I agree with what you say on Robbo. Completely different on paddy. Also if they know it’s good news why didn’t leathlean tell us. Seems strange. I’m guessing there is more testing than one night. He maybe fine to not get very sick. Doubt they have any idea if he is ok footy wise. That’s the difference
 

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And does your wife just tell anyone? I agree with what you say on Robbo. Completely different on paddy. Also if they know it’s good news why didn’t leathlean tell us. Seems strange. I’m guessing there is more testing than one night. He maybe fine to not get very sick. Doubt they have any idea if he is ok footy wise. That’s the difference

It might just be that they are fine as in the club was ultra conservative with the hospital monitoring and after initial tests it's very unlikely any real issues will arise. It could be that it won't effect either's long term playing careers. Either way I feel better thinking it's on the more positive side than worrying for 5 days that their AFL careers are going to end after the weekend. Robbo would be one serious scare from retirement IMO.
 

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It might just be that they are fine as in the club was ultra conservative with the hospital monitoring and after initial tests it's very unlikely any real issues will arise. It could be that it won't effect either's long term playing careers. Either way I feel better thinking it's on the more positive side than worrying for 5 days that their AFL careers are going to end after the weekend. Robbo would be one serious scare from retirement IMO.
Robbo due to the nature will always end up having hospital and specialist visits until the day he retires.

Paddy - well that’s something different all together. If he starts having the world spin and he can’t train in the next 24 hours would probably have to sit down and start thinking this might be it. Luckily it isn’t like that. But he is a worry. The worst thing is that he looks like he was starting to come out the other end and impact games, get fit etc.

However both will play round 1 and I expect stuv to aswell. In fact I expect all 3 in training and this to be reported by the end of the week.
 

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It might just be that they are fine as in the club was ultra conservative with the hospital monitoring and after initial tests it's very unlikely any real issues will arise. It could be that it won't effect either's long term playing careers. Either way I feel better thinking it's on the more positive side than worrying for 5 days that their AFL careers are going to end after the weekend. Robbo would be one serious scare from retirement IMO.
I’m not doubting that they could be fine but the club do not know that. Lethers said it and if knew they were fine he would have told us to put the supporter at ease. That’s logical
 

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Robbo due to the nature will always end up having hospital and specialist visits until the day he retires.

Paddy - well that’s something different all together. If he starts having the world spin and he can’t train in the next 24 hours would probably have to sit down and start thinking this might be it. Luckily it isn’t like that. But he is a worry. The worst thing is that he looks like he was starting to come out the other end and impact games, get fit etc.

However both will play round 1 and I expect stuv to aswell. In fact I expect all 3 in training and this to be reported by the end of the week.
So why wouldn’t the club tell us that. Positive news would be good so there would be no need to keep it a secret. I honestly believe the club do not know yet.
 
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So why wouldn’t the club tell us that. Positive news would be good so there would be no need to keep it a secret. I honestly believe the club do not know yet.
Given the long standing nature of the two issues and the boards wh&s responsibilities there may be an internal sign off process required before they are formally ok to train/play

Lethlean May know the results of robbos test and imagine he will be signed off so can say so internally but may not be able to announce it until the relevant committee or whatever has agreed
 

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I was expecting that response. You must love giving it and I look forward to your reply after mine. One comes from a unpaid person before the club even know as leathlean has said. Fact. The other, mine. Comes from me after I texted jack and then got a positive reply. Now you can choose to beleivene or not. That is your choice. Doesn’t matter either way. With the other I’m not even doubting they said they should be fine. What I’m doubting is the idea that anyone knows yet because of the reasons given. If people want to believe it then fine I’m just pointing the stupidity of believing it. And what is ok anyway. They will live? I would certainly think so. They will play round one? To me ok in a footy sense means yes. The players don’t even know that. On my assumption that jack will be fine was in response to him missing long term. He won’t from my understanding. Anyway you most have loved picking it up. Hope my response explains the difference
You do realise we all can see what's going on here? You want everyone's attention. One of the ways you do that is by setting yourself up as the exclusive ITK. Anyone else, you immediately attack their credibility, to eliminate the threat to your exclusive authority on all insider information. You see Stav, Ghost, anyone as a threat.

The irony is, we all know you're doing it, so it doesn't add to us respecting you, but only detracts from it. That's because we see you're not doing it to add anything to this board, but for your own selfish agenda. This only makes the contribution of people like Stav shine all the brighter, because we know they're doing it just to keep us informed, not for their own reputation.

Generally, I avoid responding to you, because I don't think it's healthy to feed your thirst for attention. But sometimes it's better to just call something for what it is.
 

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You do realise we all can see what's going on here? You want everyone's attention. One of the ways you do that is by setting yourself up as the exclusive ITK. Anyone else, you immediately attack their credibility, to eliminate the threat to your exclusive authority on all insider information. You see Stav, Ghost, anyone as a threat.

The irony is, we all know you're doing it, so it doesn't add to us respecting you, but only detracts from it. That's because we see you're not doing it to add anything to this board, but for your own selfish agenda. This only makes the contribution of people like Stav shine all the brighter, because we know they're doing it just to keep us informed, not for their own reputation.

Generally, I avoid responding to you, because I don't think it's healthy to feed your thirst for attention. But sometimes it's better to just call something for what it is.
Bollocks...
 

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You do realise we all can see what's going on here? You want everyone's attention. One of the ways you do that is by setting yourself up as the exclusive ITK. Anyone else, you immediately attack their credibility, to eliminate the threat to your exclusive authority on all insider information. You see Stav, Ghost, anyone as a threat.

The irony is, we all know you're doing it, so it doesn't add to us respecting you, but only detracts from it. That's because we see you're not doing it to add anything to this board, but for your own selfish agenda. This only makes the contribution of people like Stav shine all the brighter, because we know they're doing it just to keep us informed, not for their own reputation.

Generally, I avoid responding to you, because I don't think it's healthy to feed your thirst for attention. But sometimes it's better to just call something for what it is.
If you think my response didn’t make sense then that’s your problem. The club said more tests were required so I trust them. I am adding to the board because I’m giving logical reasons why no one would no if the players are ok yet. As for being itk well I’m not. Saying what the girl said is illogical doesn’t is make me itk. It makes me logical. I’m certainly not itk I have no doubt many on here want to believe people are itk but when they look in the mirror they see that sometimes what was said makes no sense at all. Stave said they will play round one. Lethers said they need more tests. Either lethers is lying for no logical reason or they really do need more tests. I’m going with logic of lethers. You can choose the illogical. And I love attention because I’m an unknown name on a board. Maybe I like attention but it’s usually from mates who know who I am.
 

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Robbo due to the nature will always end up having hospital and specialist visits until the day he retires.

Paddy - well that’s something different all together. If he starts having the world spin and he can’t train in the next 24 hours would probably have to sit down and start thinking this might be it. Luckily it isn’t like that. But he is a worry. The worst thing is that he looks like he was starting to come out the other end and impact games, get fit etc.

However both will play round 1 and I expect stuv to aswell. In fact I expect all 3 in training and this to be reported by the end of the week.
Erected
 

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I love Robbo but fear the club is on a hiding to nothing risking him out there. If something super serious happens everyone will be pointing the finger at the club, especially with this latest scare.
What more will it take to highlight the risk?
I shudder to think.
Seems an untenable situation.
The guy has a pace maker doesn't he? Theres probably not much that can go seriously wrong any more I'd have thought.
 

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I think it’s actually a positive that Gresh played such a poor game (by his standards), because it showed we could win without his usual impact.


St Kilda and proud.
17 touches and a goal in a quiet game is promising.
 

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Can't comment on Robbo, but with Paddy if concussion is an issue then that statement is not right. With concussion and TBI's symptoms can be up and down and be slower or faster. Sometimes people are initially ok, but then get worse. Yes if Paddy had a brain bleed or something immediately serious they would know by now and if that was suspected it is why hospitalisation is recommended just in case major intervention is required. (Wife survived her TBI, nephew died after being king hit and going to bed rather than hospital). However the micro damage that can be done to the brain by concussion can be such that scans do not show it and so real long-term harm may have been done that only time will reveal.

Paddy may be ok, or he may not be. But with concussion no one will this quickly know if he is ok or not. They will keep re-testing him throughout the week and let us all hope that he recovers ok and that this incident was nothing much. But it is only Monday, and if he was concussed during the game he will go through the tests this week till his results keep showing he is ok.
Statement was on Robbo not paddy.
 
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