JLT2 2019 - Hawthorn v Richmond, UTAS Stadium 7:10pm AEDT 9 March 2019

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Love conformists, so easy to please.
Out of interest MS ..
Would like to know iyo how long it should take from extreme success ( 13,14,15 ) to rebuild to challenging again ?
We are 4yrs in to that journey yet you seem unhappy with our progress.
 

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Out of interest MS ..
Would like to know iyo how long it should take from extreme success ( 13,14,15 ) to rebuild to challenging again ?
We are 4yrs in to that journey yet you seem unhappy with our progress.
It's not like we've in missed finals in that time either, obviously we'd all like to make the big dance every year, but despite losing so many club greats, we've still been relatively competitive and dangerous.

We're heading in the right direction and it's people like this, that make the ride less enjoyable.
 

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He actually did. Listen to him carefully mate, he has the sense that the tigers were a bit off in the first half.
Maybe he should have got a smug look on his face & dropped a “Mission: Accomplished” like his foolish mate at Geelong did when we rolled them a couple of year back?
 
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Out of interest MS ..
Would like to know iyo how long it should take from extreme success ( 13,14,15 ) to rebuild to challenging again ?
We are 4yrs in to that journey yet you seem unhappy with our progress.
No I’m not unhappy per se, honestly I just can’t understand how people on here think everything went the way clarko planned. He looked concerned about the second half fadeout and you would be. I’m not suggesting we should’ve pumped Richmond , i don’t care about them, i am however, worried about how often even in season we’re in games till half time only to let games slip thereafter. It seems we’ve had this problem for a few years. People just wanna force good news upon themselves but to come crashing down during the season.
 

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You think tigers are going to allow us waltz around for the first half in season proper, then you don’t rate tigers one iota.
They couldn’t have imagined hawthorn would be so clinical with the ball.

Take the Lewis mark. Weren’t they trying? Cos it looked like they were.

Marking has been a big part of our game in JLT so far. You have to look twice to see if it’s actually Hawthorn
 
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Out of interest MS ..
Would like to know iyo how long it should take from extreme success ( 13,14,15 ) to rebuild to challenging again ?
We are 4yrs in to that journey yet you seem unhappy with our progress.
It’s longer really
2011 prelim beaten narrowly by collingwood after a touch up by the premiers
2012 grand final beaten narrowly by the premiers
2013-15 we know
2016 lost narrowly to Geelong and a touch up by that years premiers

Six years better than all but a couple of clubs. Now into the third year post.
 

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The kids got worn down in the end. They gassed. Fair enough.

It’s why everyone knows we need the 4-5 guns on the sidelines back in the team. You can only carry a handful of kids at any one time. They just can’t go 120 mins a game, week on week, and keep delivering. Heck, ours couldnt go 120 mins last night. It was glaring. But it is what it is at present.
Well said.
 

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Interesting that ceglar only played 7, 9 and 6 minutes of game time in the first 3/4 then the whole last quarter.

This is when Lewis went off the ground too. McEvoy minutes were consistent per quarter
Be interesting to see how we juggle the two rucks. Rough is a lock at FF. Lewis seemed threatening up the ground. A third tall makes us a tad slow. Lewis builds on that first quarter and I reckon Cegs may struggle to get a run.
 

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If JOM gets a good run at it for the rest of his career, he could very well be in contention for being one of the best handful of midfielders to ever play for our club. Unreal talent.
Yeah he looks as though the knee complaints are a distant memory, playing completely naturally and unconcerned. Had a wonderful preseason
 
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If JOM gets a good run at it for the rest of his career, he could very well be in contention for being one of the best handful of midfielders to ever play for our club. Unreal talent.
No doubt he’s an amazing talent and health permitting as you’ve said will be huge for the club, however I’m going to wait to see a whole season put together of good health and good football before I can raise my expectations to those heights.
Yesterday he showed his class a little, he is probably the most exiting thing about football for me in 2019
 

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I think we are a middle road team the way Richmond got that run on despite being a practice game was way to easy . We dont have enough top end talent to turn the game in our favour again, cotchin and riewoldt were putrid first half and almost taking the piss and just flicked a switch and were able to change the momentum .

People post on here as if Clarko has made major changes to the game plan that is revolutionary and every afl coach has no idea , but let's be honest it's very marginal despite rule changes . We possibly have the worst kpp depth in the afl , mirra and tob are vfl players and Lewis is a long long long way off and nash is purely athlete.

Out of the youngsters scrimshaw is a top end talent but has zero fitness and this was an issue in his under 18 year which was a reason why he played in the back half and not through the middle. Worpel and Morrison will become nice afl players and cousins should make it. Moore and hanrahan do not excite me they just aren't zippy or clean enough to play that fwd pocket role . Ross, jiath and walker are our best prospects.

What gives me hope is that Wingard realises how good he can be and becomes a top 10 talent in the comp along with Jaeger , gunston, Hardwick, Sicily, impey that could give us a chance at being competitive . Either way it's going to be an interesting year which I'm looking forward to
 
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Scrimshaw is my biggest take away from this game. Early on we saw what he is capable of, he has all the talent to be a gun at AFL level. He still has a lot of work to do and it will take some time but i hope we pump games in to him this year and expect he will be a very good contributor by the second half of the year.
he looks like he will be a player but Rougheads game was great to see
 

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The first half was great and I am assuming that's our preferred setup, the second half was obviously Clarko flipping the magnets around and trying a few different options and setups.

Overall, It was a good effort by the boys and people need not be disappointed with the loss, we will be better for the experience.

These were my observations from the match.
Lewis - so much to work with here. If taking 2 big marks in the opening 90 seconds doesn't prove it, then keeping his feet and pinpointing a pass to Roughie for his first certainly should.
Scrimshaw - massive opening quarter, with 12 disposals and showing us all why he was so highly rated as a junior. Needs to get plenty of games early.
Worpel - tough as nails and found plenty of the ball, however needs to work on his composure, as he seems to just want to hack the ball forward. This is where the coaching skills of Sam Mitchell will get tested.
Moore - had another very quiet night and I still don't believe he's ready. He has all the tools for being a handy player, but needs more time in the VFL to develop them.
Cousins - unfortunately, it seemed that he was out of his depth, at times. I'm hoping that it's just a matter of getting more game time, as he definitely has potential.
Morrison - has great skills and a great footy brain. His defensive work and tackling was once again fantastic.
Nash - needs to work on his kicking and his marking, but his pressure is Cyril like. When he hits an opposition player with a tackle, they stay hit.
O'Brien - probably one of the worst games I've seen him play. He brings nothing to the side, other than a lack of heart. He needs to toughen up and start to believe in himself, before it's too late.
Brand - signs were looking good early and I wonder if perhaps the cheap shot off Riewoldt affected his game. We need to persist with playing him and give him a good run at it.
Hanrahan - did a couple of good things in the last quarter. Has potential.
Mirra - not up to it, plain and simple.
Impey - his run and dash was a definite feature of the game. I think he may have finally found his best place in the side.
Sicily - seemed to be cruising in second gear, but still seemed another level above most on the ground.
Roughead - had a massive game and seemed like the Rough of old. Let's hope that it's an indication of things to come.
Hardwick - seemed to make a slow start, which is unusual, however improved as the game wore on.
Bruest - appeared to have played a lesser game, than he actually did. Perhaps it was those couple of misses on goal, that made it appear that way.
Frawley - was a Colossus down back and always gets more criticism than he deserves. If he wasn't playing, we'd have conceded another 6-8 goals, easily.
O'Meara - he was absolutely prolific and if there is anything positive to take from the injury to Mitchell, it's that it will give Jaeger the opportunity to step up and make people take notice.
Shiels - appeared to just be going through the motions. Not of concern though, yet anyway.
Puopolo - had a very uninspiring game, very uncharacteristic for him.
Ceglar - had a massive game and has to easily be the best 2nd ruck in the league. Would be better than half the league's 1st choice ruckmen.
McEvoy - played well, although not to his usually high standard.
Stratton - barely noticed him to be honest. Hopefully just an off game, because we need him firing and marshalling that backline.
Henderson - looked very, very sharp and just hope that once Scully is fit, we still have a place for him in the side. Rarely plays a bad game.
Smith - had a night to forget, played with no sense of urgency and that play on attempt at goal was near unforgivable. Will bounce back without a doubt.
Burgoyne - played well and moving him forward could very well prove to be a masterstroke. It may even extend his career by another 2-3 years, which would be fantastic.

I can't wait to see what difference the additions of Birchall, Gunston, Scully and Wingard make to the dynamic and performance of the team.
Did you actually get to watch the game?
 
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