John Elliott's dodgy & dirty tactics - pathetic!!

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Deej

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John Elliott is trying to rig the Carlton elections.

(I couldn't give a damn if I'm sued over that, bring it on Jack you self-obsessed prick)

The registered members roll that Carlton One have been given is not accurate, I know this because my father was on the list and he hasn't been a member in any form for 3 years let alone a registered voting member this year. This means that the incumbent board is giving the Carlton One ticket old information whilst they have to themselves all the updated phone/email/address contact information available, which they are using to further their own agenda best they can.

Now I'm no lawyer, but is their anything illegal about this?

If someone that hasn't been a member for 3 years is down as a registered voter , then who else is on the list that Carlton One were given by Elliott who isn't a current member I wonder? And further, who is NOT on their list who IS a current member but is not able to be contacted by Carlton One? In my eyes this is scandalous.

I personally had to fill out my register to vote form 3 TIMES!!! Each time I filled it out I would check 2 weeks later and nothing had been done or received (god knows how many people this happened to or what happened to my forms). I strongly suspect that Elliott has purposefully sandbagged the applications of those that are in support of Carlton One ticket, I further suspect that (possibly on purpose) these applications may have just been thrown in the bin.

Further to the points raised by Dan26, whose father works at Bradmill (run by Elliott puppet Colin De Lutis) where the workers have all been signed up as voting members despite the fact most of them not only don't follow Carlton, but possibly don't follow footy full stop, I am now extremely anxious about the prospect of John Elliott worming his way back in to power by the use of very cunning and sly tactics. Given the level of discontent amongst Carlton supporters with his leadership of the club we love, I am certain that the consequences of him managing to win re-election by such devious ways can only polarise members and cause many of us to walk away from the club (standing in exile) in protest, a possibility that could prove catastrophic for the long term future of the club.

Does John Elliott have a single thread of moral fibre in his body whatsoever?
 

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I personally have received two calls from telemarketing companies representing the incumbent board, the latest of which I recieved 8pm last night. The girl made it sound as if the directors were all in the room with her, hard at work in the name of the Carlton Football Club. But when I asked to speak to one of them they were all conveniently unavailable. Make up your own mind about what that's all about.
 
Originally posted by Pessimistic
I guess he's taking a advice from his lib party colleague, John howard.

Not Howard, but that former electoral adviser who retired last week more like. What was his name by the way?
 
Originally posted by Rohan_
Why would it surprise you? Here is the club that cheats the salary cap and now it cheats its members. IMO a match made in heaven.
The club is the members and supporters, not the bloke in charge. Presidents come and go, fans are forever. It is wrong for you to suggest the club is cheating it's members, in reality it is only the actions of a stubborn, very dodgy incumbant board led by a crook. Our club is in the hands of a self-obsessed pig headed ar#ehole who has his own interests ahead of the club's, it is the club, the supporters and members, that are trying to get the man out.

What you say about Carlton, Rohan, is 95% of the time pure rubbish. Nothing here to suggest otherwise.
 
Originally posted by Deej
Our club is in the hands of a self-obsessed pig headed ar#ehole who has his own interests ahead of the club's, it is the club, the supporters and members, that are trying to get the man out.


Point is though that most people have seen that from the very beginning yet Carlton supporters only turly get worked up about it now.

At least 5 years too late I would have thought.
 
Originally posted by Deej
Our club is in the hands of a self-obsessed pig headed ar#ehole who has his own interests ahead of the club's, it is the club, the supporters and members, that are trying to get the man out.

You're are biased towards Carlton One and you can't say with any concrete evidence that they are trying to get the man out. You might say polls indicate the contrary to my contention but until the election is actually run, you are just merely speculating.

The way you blame Elliot you would think he's responsible for every wrong doing at Carlton in the last couple of years. Quite simply there is more to the running of a football club than a president.

Karma
 
Originally posted by Deej
Does John Elliott have a single thread of moral fibre in his body whatsoever?

In a word, no.

But I think we presumed this quite some time ago, really.

Geez, you'd think this was a Latin American election, rather than one for an AFL club, the way things are being run, or rigged, Deej. :rolleyes:

Cheers,
William
 

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Nice to see the club has made it public that it wants to look at Steven Silvagni's books, looks like they are trying to dirty his name also. This is one hell of a bitter election.
 
Re: Re: Re: John Elliott's dodgy & dirty tactics - pathetic!!

Originally posted by Shinboners


Or a U.S. Presidential one.

LOL! Good one, Shinners. Touche. ;)

All's fair in love, war.... and politics as well.

Sounds like it's all a matter of posturing right now-- but Elliott has to go, simple as that.

Cheers,
William
 
Originally posted by Deej
Our club is in the hands of a self-obsessed pig headed ar#ehole who has his own interests ahead of the club's

John Elliot: "I'm pig headed? Pig's a r se!"
 
Originally posted by Deej
I personally have received two calls from telemarketing companies representing the incumbent board, the latest of which I recieved 8pm last night. The girl made it sound as if the directors were all in the room with her, hard at work in the name of the Carlton Football Club. But when I asked to speak to one of them they were all conveniently unavailable. Make up your own mind about what that's all about.

I remember getting a call from the Hawthorn administration during the merger debate in '96.

At the time I was feeling pretty fatalistic about the whole thing but I was uneasy about how Melbourne were pitching it to their members. I asked to speak to a director and the next thing I know the president Brian Coleman is on the phone.

I ended up voting against the merger but I could never blame Coleman for what happened (although I can understand why some members of Operation Payback did). He absolutely believed he was doing the best thing for the club - even though he hated it.

These rifts are terrible - it's important to remember that, at the end of the day, you all support the same club.
 
Pivotal, far more likely the leak re Silvagni has come directly from the AFL ... quite clearly someone there has been leaking information to Caroline Wilson and/or others at the Age regarding who is being investigated, and it has the appearance of being deliberately mischievous. This has all the signs of a witch hunt/fishing expedition based upon information (Fraser Brown's long service leave claim) they have had for well over 12 months ... so why wait until now to investigate? Perhaps hoping that if there are any skeletons, the timing will help cause information to leak out? I doubt the timing is accidental ...

As for Rohan_, curious how he seems to delight in making himself look a moron. But then, he does appear to be a Pie fan (sorry to those reasonable Pie fans, I'm sure there are a few somewhere).

Deej, you should not be at all shocked by what you have found out about possible vote rigging. Elliot has demonstrated his ethics (or lack of them) for all to see for years, including pulling legal tricks with the electoral roll when a petition was raised years ago.
 
Originally posted by Deej
I personally have received two calls from telemarketing companies representing the incumbent board, the latest of which I recieved 8pm last night. The girl made it sound as if the directors were all in the room with her, hard at work in the name of the Carlton Football Club. But when I asked to speak to one of them they were all conveniently unavailable. Make up your own mind about what that's all about.

Deej,I know for a fact(100%) that John Elliot was at a telemarketing firm yesterday talking to Carlton members about the upcoming election and generally 'sucking up' to them.Whether or not it's the same company that rang you I don't know.

As an outsider I hope you guys can get rid of him.He is an embarrassment to your club and the league!
 
Deej, I should also add of course that placing anyone who has not actually signed up on the members list is no doubt illegal, and could probably be construed as fraud. As an incorprorated Club, the CFC is subject to all the rules of corporations law etc, and tampering with the registered members list is definitely illegal. Any person with knowledge of unregistered members being on the roll should report it to the USC, who will no doubt be very willing to forward it to the relevant authorities.
 

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