Opinion Johnson a "September fizzer"

[FredLeDeux]

It's funny, any way I carved the data I couldn't see how he was a "fizzer". But they managed to invent find a way!

It's coz dere's Data and dere's Champion Data!

 

[Partridge]

Here's something I prepared earlier (from our Travis Varcoe thread) about this AFL Site garbage:
- Defining "big game" by attendance figures or, lord luv us, a "Derby" or a "Showdown", is illogical drivel (for a start, it means no games at KP are counted), and
- claiming that Champion Data's own manufactured "pressure acts" are "more advanced measurements" than "kicks, handballs, tackles and goals" is utterly moronic.
Simply completely meaningless, a disgrace to a purportedly serious football site.

Yeah a bit of intellectual masturbation to make their own particular favourites look better.

You want to define big games v small games? Easy. Here's how - home and away versus finals. Pretty simple.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Yeah a bit of intellectual masturbation to make their own particular favourites look better.

You want to define big games v small games? Easy. Here's how - home and away versus finals. Pretty simple.

I think "intellectual" is a stretch.

 

[Partridge]

I think Swans have been foxing a bit. Tippet could prove disastrous and kick 6. I think Hannebery is a good in.

Jetta too.

Agree about Hannebery, they need him to have any serious chance. If they've been foxing they'd want to turn it on this week. Not exactly brilliant tactically to get beaten twice by both Hawthorn and Geelong.

Love to see it, but suspect they simply aren't good enough.

 

[Rainfall]

They are. They're still prone to not showing up - like they did against North recently. They blew their game against Carlton the other week after looking great early too. But if they turn up and play well, they'll be too good for Carlton. And a very annoying opponent for whoever would face them the week after.

Either way I feel Sydney have no chance this week so Hawk's wont have them sadly.

 

[Rainfall]

Why am I under the impression that this will happen? Partridge


Basically I feel between Freo, Hawthorn and Geelong the winner could be either of the 3. Just depends who plays who in the prelims or Grand Final

Prelims I'd have
Geel > Hawks
Freo > Geel
Hawks > Freo

but in the Grand Final I'd have
Hawks > Geel
Geel > Freo
Freo > Hawks

 

[catinthemachine]

Here's something I prepared earlier (from our Travis Varcoe thread) about this AFL Site garbage:
- Defining "big game" by attendance figures or, lord luv us, a "Derby" or a "Showdown", is illogical drivel (for a start, it means no games at KP are counted), and
- claiming that Champion Data's own manufactured "pressure acts" are "more advanced measurements" than "kicks, handballs, tackles and goals" is utterly moronic.
Simply completely meaningless, a disgrace to a purportedly serious football site.

Fred makes a good point here and it bears repeating, statistics can be manipulated to support just about any argument you like. You need to look at the details of how stats are counted and tabulated. A safety tip for the folks at home, I just about swallowed my tongue when I read this thread title.
Mouth guards aren't just for the footy

ON the positive side, even though this is a nonsense argument it has started discussion and prompted debate, even if it is only about the type of drugs AFL.coms staff must be on.
Congratulations guys your work is done here, people will always stop to look at a train wreck

 

[Partridge]

Why am I under the impression that this will happen? Partridge

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Basically I feel between Freo, Hawthorn and Geelong the winner could be either of the 3. Just depends who plays who in the prelims or Grand Final

Prelims I'd have
Geel > Hawks
Freo > Geel
Hawks > Freo

but in the Grand Final I'd have
Hawks > Geel
Geel > Freo
Freo > Hawks

Great. Thanks for that. I was trying to find a similar diagram to see who is on what side of it.

I would be really, really amazed if Fremantle were Premiers. They have to beat Hawthorn AND Geelong to achieve that. They've played each once this year, and haven't gotten within 40 points of either. They've also only played Sydney once, and could only draw. You can only play who is put in front of you, but they haven't had a tough draw this year by any stretch. They're putting the crap sides away like you should, but we really won't know how good they are until Saturday.

 

[Rainfall]

Great. Thanks for that. I was trying to find a similar diagram to see who is on what side of it.

I would be really, really amazed if Fremantle were Premiers. They have to beat Hawthorn AND Geelong to achieve that. They've played each once this year, and haven't gotten within 40 points of either. They've also only played Sydney once, and could only draw. You can only play who is put in front of you, but they haven't had a tough draw this year by any stretch. They're putting the crap sides away like you should, but we really won't know how good they are until Saturday.

Our only threats anyway. If we don't win it I'd like Freo to. Matter of fact I'd feel more comfortable if we lose this week and play Power/Pies then Hawks in the prelim.