Opposition Camp Jono Marsh has been signed by the Saints

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The issue I see is that no one else wanted him at the draft so why should we? How does he fit our list needs?
A quality key defender is probably our biggest list need. He'd be battling it out in a large group of not quite right types for the role. Goldy too short, Roughead too cumbersome, Madgen too small, Kelly too inexperienced, Marsh a crap kick. He has a combination of size, speed and a small (perhaps not enough?) sample that he can play at the level which I reckon makes him an intriguing option. But honestly I reckon we've moved past the bad old days of terrible kicks in the back half.
 

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A quality key defender is probably our biggest list need. He'd be battling it out in a large group of not quite right types for the role. Goldy too short, Roughead too cumbersome, Madgen too small, Kelly too inexperienced, Marsh a crap kick. He has a combination of size, speed and a small (perhaps not enough?) sample that he can play at the level which I reckon makes him an intriguing option. But honestly I reckon we've moved past the bad old days of terrible kicks in the back half.
Have you forgotten Moore? Unless he succumbs to injury, he will be our CHB. That leave a bit of a hole at FB until Dunn returns to the side. Whoever plays there in the meantime will not quite fit the precise needs of the position. Unfortunately Marsh's poor disposal is always going to count against him in such a significant role. Maybe he would make good insurance and might be preferable to someone like Madgen. Goldsack is probably the best short term option. But as you say, it's the one position where we appear a little deficient and Marsh doesn't slot neatly enough into a FB role.
 

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I haven't heard anything recently but he was pretty scathing about the the clubs player welfare department on his way out the door.
I can't imagine too many people who feel so terrible they have to leave their jobs would be praising of the welfare team, which is why I'd be surprised if Collingwood was his 1st choice to come back to... Might have some bad memories here
 
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I can't imagine too many people who feel so terrible they have to leave their jobs would be praising of the welfare team, which is why I'd be surprised if Collingwood was his 1st choice to come back to... Might have some bad memories here
If he wants to come back midseason hes not going to have much choice who he plays for. Put his hand up at the end of 2018 and there were no bites.

Assuming Collingwood delists Murrray then Collingwood will have a vacancy.\....assuming they even want him which is arguable.

I'd be interested to know how many other clubs have room to pick up a player under the new rules.
 

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Have you forgotten Moore? Unless he succumbs to injury, he will be our CHB. That leave a bit of a hole at FB until Dunn returns to the side. Whoever plays there in the meantime will not quite fit the precise needs of the position. Unfortunately Marsh's poor disposal is always going to count against him in such a significant role. Maybe he would make good insurance and might be preferable to someone like Madgen. Goldsack is probably the best short term option. But as you say, it's the one position where we appear a little deficient and Marsh doesn't slot neatly enough into a FB role.
I reckon Marsh would slot in fine at full back if you are happy to accept he is a poor kick. I wouldn't be happy with that but his other playing qualities measure up.

I haven't forgotten Moore nor Dunn. You need two key defenders. Dunn is still out with injury and there has to be question marks over his ability to immediately hit his best form. He is also getting on in his career. A contingency makes sense.

I reckon we are banking a lot on Kelly coming good in the next 2-3 years. Or else we need to chase someone who can fill the role more immediately.
 
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I reckon Marsh would slot in fine at full back if you are happy to accept he is a poor kick. I wouldn't be happy with that but his other playing qualities measure up.

I haven't forgotten Moore nor Dunn. You need two key defenders. Dunn is still out with injury and there has to be question marks over his ability to immediately hit his best form. He is also getting on in his career. A contingency makes sense.

I reckon we are banking a lot on Kelly coming good in the next 2-3 years. Or else we need to chase someone who can fill the role more immediately.
Chasinng someone to fill roles immediately is not that much of a stretch of the imagination. This year we recruited Roughead, a few years ago Dunn, and a few years before that Leigh Brown. We can do it again pretty cheaply if required.

Kelly wont be fast tracked. Dunn hopefully has two years left in his body, He along with and Moore and Roughead should give Kelly plenty of time to develop.
 

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Chasinng someone to fill roles immediately is not that much of a stretch of the imagination. This year we recruited Roughead, a few years ago Dunn, and a few years before that Leigh Brown. We can do it again pretty cheaply if required.

Kelly wont be fast tracked. Dunn hopefully has two years left in his body, He along with and Moore and Roughead should give Kelly plenty of time to develop.
I hope you're right about Dunn. And I hope Roughead can be more than a fill in for us but i'm skeptical about that. With the age of Dunn, Goldsack and Reid I do think we will chase someone in key defence again this off season. I hope the calibre of player is high.
 
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I hope you're right about Dunn. And I hope Roughead can be more than a fill in for us but i'm skeptical about that. With the age of Dunn, Goldsack and Reid I do think we will chase someone in key defence again this off season. I hope the calibre of player is high.
Yep, not convinced we need a ready made kpp, maybe even a draftee or two, but its an area we are down on. I think the club has a lot of faith in Moore making it and also De Goey making it as an undersized full forward. If those things pan out then the pressure to replace these aging players with a veteran is reduced.

Will be interesting how they replace Murray if that happens. As time advances the odds increase that Murray will remain on our list either by getting off the ban or getting one signifcantly reduced.
 

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Yep, not convinced we need a ready made kpp, maybe even a draftee or two, but its an area we are down on. I think the club has a lot of faith in Moore making it and also De Goey making it as an undersized full forward. If those things pan out then the pressure to replace these aging players with a veteran is reduced.

Will be interesting how they replace Murray if that happens. As time advances the odds increase that Murray will remain on our list either by getting off the ban or getting one significantly reduced.
Why is the decision on Murray taking so long?! There seems to be no logical explanation for the time that the B sample result is taking to be announced
 

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Good luck to Marsh. His retirement likely extended Goldsack’s CFC career by 3 years and meant we got to see a career best year from him in 2017.

Despite sometimes poor decision making (throw it on the boot) I would have liked to have seen Marsh back in black and white, but he’s not a list need.
 
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