Expansion Joondalup Falcons in the AFL?

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Bjo187

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It's always a bit contraversial to move an existing club to an Aussie Rules heartland state, but then again is that worse than the corporate mcdonalds franchise clubs like West Coast?

I've always believed that the comp should have maintained its suburban roots and the best clubs in the respective state leagues should have been propelled to the AFL through investment, instead of the corporate franchises.

Having defacto state teams like Eagles and Crows mixed with suburban teams makes no sense. You got a club representing the entire West Coast but then you have a club representing a small port city within that coast? Even worse in regards to SA as Port Adelaide is merely a suburb of Adelaide, which is supposed to be represented by the Adelaide Football Club...

So make it happen, up the Perth Kangaroos, you'll have all the initial supporter base who decide to stay with the club, North Melbourne supporters in WA and the new/current fans looking for a new team.

Being that the AFL like to have teams in the same state jumper clash for colours, kangaroos to Perth makes sense.
 

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Being that the AFL like to have teams in the same state jumper clash for colours, kangaroos to Perth makes sense.

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The thing I have against expansion is that every time a new team pops up outside Victoria it makes things harder for non-Victorian clubs.

1. Victoria dominates where footballers are from, it's the dominant state for supplying talent to the AFL.
2. There are only x amount of players willing to play outside of Victoria and who will stay outside of Victoria and not go home.
3. You add another team like Tasmania or another two such as Joondalup and that x amount has to be spread over even more team, which dilutes the talent outside of vic.

It just appears to me that since the AFL created GWS and GCS that teams outside of Vic have just dropped off a little. Players tend to go home and a lot of that involves players wanting to go home to Victoria.

I'm just wondering whether it puts extra pressure on clubs to find players who won't leave.

I understand that the long term idea is to give people a team and keep the game strong.

I also have questions about that many teams diluting the talent in the competition and weakening the spectacle that is AFL football.

Then there is the issue of rebuilding teams taking a long time to rebuild. If you are bottom before GCS and GWS you get picks 1, 17 and so on. Now it's pick 1, 19 and so on, then it will be pick 1, 20 or 21 and so on. So you may just slightly be bringing in less quality as a team desperate to bring in significant numbers of good players. Or does it even out?

There is plenty of for and against with expanding the AFL.
 

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The thing I have against expansion is that every time a new team pops up outside Victoria it makes things harder for non-Victorian clubs.

The thing I have for AFL expansion is that every time a new team pops up outside Victoria it makes things harder for Victorian clubs.
 

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I’d love to see the professional development of the state leagues lead to a promotion-relegation system.

Bottom 4 relegated and WAFL, SANFL, NEAFL (bring it back eventually), and VFL champions promoted.

But I think even in 100 years time when none of us are around you still wouldn’t have the state leagues go pro because all the eyes and the money and sponsorship and investment are fixed on the AFL.

As the AFL has gotten bigger it appears as if the state leagues are fading rather than strengthening. A shame.
 

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I’d love to see the professional development of the state leagues lead to a promotion-relegation system.

Bottom 4 relegated and WAFL, SANFL, NEAFL (bring it back eventually), and VFL champions promoted.

But I think even in 100 years time when none of us are around you still wouldn’t have the state leagues go pro because all the eyes and the money and sponsorship and investment are fixed on the AFL.

As the AFL has gotten bigger it appears as if the state leagues are fading rather than strengthening. A shame.

Man it would be a dream to see the SANFL go pro.
 

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In regards to the SA clubs, if an investor gave a big club like South Adelaide $30m in capital could they actually go for an AFL bid? How much $$$ is required?
 

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imagine thinking the AFL would ever have "Joondalup" in their league
 

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imagine thinking the AFL would ever have "Joondalup" in their league

Showing your aboriginal ignorance are we - shame.
Not as bad as "Liverpool", a slimy pool of liver.
Or "Blackpool" - probably originally a cesspool.
 

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Showing your aboriginal ignorance are we - shame.
Not as bad as "Liverpool", a slimy pool of liver.
Or "Blackpool" - probably originally a cesspool.
Liverpool will always be my first footy club :heart:

I'm all for Joondalup Falcs to be in the comp, but I reckon Perth Quokkas sounds better and the kiddies would love that mascot = huge sales.

After Canberra, have Joondalup, Newy, Adelaide3 and another expansion region join the comp.
 

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Showing your aboriginal ignorance are we - shame.
Not as bad as "Liverpool", a slimy pool of liver.
Or "Blackpool" - probably originally a cesspool.

i genuinely have no idea what you're going on about
 

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The thing I have against expansion is that every time a new team pops up outside Victoria it makes things harder for non-Victorian clubs.

1. Victoria dominates where footballers are from, it's the dominant state for supplying talent to the AFL.
2. There are only x amount of players willing to play outside of Victoria and who will stay outside of Victoria and not go home.
3. You add another team like Tasmania or another two such as Joondalup and that x amount has to be spread over even more team, which dilutes the talent outside of vic.

It just appears to me that since the AFL created GWS and GCS that teams outside of Vic have just dropped off a little. Players tend to go home and a lot of that involves players wanting to go home to Victoria.

I'm just wondering whether it puts extra pressure on clubs to find players who won't leave.

I understand that the long term idea is to give people a team and keep the game strong.

I also have questions about that many teams diluting the talent in the competition and weakening the spectacle that is AFL football.

Then there is the issue of rebuilding teams taking a long time to rebuild. If you are bottom before GCS and GWS you get picks 1, 17 and so on. Now it's pick 1, 19 and so on, then it will be pick 1, 20 or 21 and so on. So you may just slightly be bringing in less quality as a team desperate to bring in significant numbers of good players. Or does it even out?

There is plenty of for and against with expanding the AFL.
It does, Freo's only notable top draftees of recent times that were Vic Metro were Brayshaw and Cerra (who has left).

Everyone else from Victoria has been Vic Country / they came from another interstate team / or a mature age player.
 

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