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Finlayson, M.Kennedy, Setterfield and Zac Williams were all GWS academy players who requested trades interstate. The academy system isn’t a solution to player retention issues.
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Finlayson, M.Kennedy, Setterfield and Zac Williams were all GWS academy players who requested trades interstate. The academy system isn’t a solution to player retention issues.
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Don't think Dawson will screw over a club that has treated him so well since he was drafted.
Anyhow no one knows which SA club he will nominate anyway, if he had any brains, it would be Port Though, Crows years away from being a decent team
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He out of contract so please tell me how sydney wont accept pick 23 ????
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Because that would be unders and if he does not nominate a team we can leverage off both teams?
He will nominate a team, you will get more than just 23 but he will 99.9% nominate a team
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He will nominate 100%
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That will never , ever happen
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I know. Hence the "wish" bit in the statement.
Would like to see an more American based system as contracts, across the league, seemingly mean sweet FA in recent years
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Yup and the other thing that gets me is when a victorian kids says he wont go interstate it ok but if its the other way round it draft tampering like wtf
Nah he is out of contract he should be able to pick where he plays
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Trade off should then be a player can be traded anywhere at anytime.
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Not a FA , so should go to whoever offers the best deal or to the ND
Not until the wages get a lot higher, especially for the bottom earners.
I think everything is relatively okay just make rookie contracts longer.
Best deal to the club? No
He was contracted and gave the years of service, he is now out of contract and should be able to choose where he works.
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Not a FA , so should go to whoever offers the best deal or to the ND
Yes you have said that… So if Adelaide were offering him 100k more a year but port offered a better package to the swans he should be forced to take the worse contract?
No
He fulfilled his contractual obligations, he now gets to choose where he wants to go.
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I say after every contract is done, all players are FA which increasingly seems to be the case anyhow.
Trade odd - clubs can trade players at anytime. Think that is more than reasonable trade off to both parties.
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So you're happy for players to be free agents after their initial 2 year contract?
He chooses Adelaide and they say "we'll give you pick 80", Swans just have to take it?
When does that happen?
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Well if they see out their initial 2 year contract, they can go wherever they like, just like a FA in your model.
In that case, why would a club trade anything of value if they're guaranteed to get the player?
My model is the current model…
A player when out of contract can nominate a club of choice, if his current club is so dissatisfied with the trade offer they can send them to the pre season draft and get nothing.
It rarely comes to that because clubs almost always act in good faith.
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I reckon if you’re on average wage, or being offered a contract of at least average wage, your club should have the option to trade you anywhere. Far too much power with the players in terms of nominating a single club and then the host club being screwed.
The go home factor is a constant detriment to the northern clubs, which they’re currently trying to offset via the academy structure. Then you get a year like last year where Sydney draft 2 academy prospects and Vic media lose their shiiite claiming the academies are unfair. Dawson is a classic example of why northern clubs will not be competitive without academies.
Dawson will likely go for a pick/player/combo of about the value of pick 20. If he had a year to run on his contract it’d be a top 10 pick plus a 2nd rounder. As a Swans fan, I’d be more than willing to give that up for a player of his calibre and age.
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What's their list got to do with it... as they are not going to give you back a similar quality player.
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Lol, no!
Dawson will select which club he wants to go to.
Name me the last player who was dictated to by the club he was leaving?
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Everything.
We are not going to get a top three in BnF player.
However, looking at the lists and draft picks we are more likely to get a positional need/better pick from port than crows.
KPP/rucks who could be involved from Port: Ladhams, Hayes, Clurey, Marshall, Georgiades.
From Adelaide.... no one who i can see on your list and crows will likely attempt to strong arm us into pick 23 and rubbish. Whereas port more likely to do 17 and steak knives.
This is as it currently stands picks wise etc
