Traded Jordan Dawson traded to Adelaide for F1 (Melb)

[Joey JoJo Jr Shabadoo]

Only bright side out of this deal for the Swans is just further re-enforcing the need for academies in non-traditional states.

Finlayson, M.Kennedy, Setterfield and Zac Williams were all GWS academy players who requested trades interstate. The academy system isn’t a solution to player retention issues.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

about to cough up pick 6 for Cerra who's no where near as valuable as Dawson.

That’s an interesting take you have there…

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Dawson's reasons for leaving have absolutely nothing to do with the Swans salary cap. He wants to come home to SA.

Agreed, Swans offered him arguably more money than both SA clubs according to reliable media reports.

His reasons for coming home are genuine (as rough as it is for The Swans)

 

[Thetrader15]

Agreed, Swans offered him arguably more money than both SA clubs according to reliable media reports.

His reasons for coming home are genuine (as rough as it is for The Swans)

"Reliable media reports"...

 

[Golumless]

Dawson's reasons for leaving have absolutely nothing to do with the Swans salary cap. He wants to come home to SA.

Do you think Dawson would be homesick if either Port or us (seeing I doubt this is as "up in the air" as the media portrays it) were offering 100-200 k less per year?

 

[Bonz]

Do you think Dawson would be homesick if either Port or us (seeing I doubt this is as "up in the air" as the media portrays it) were offering 100-200 k less per year?

For $100k a year and the cost of living difference between the two cities I can see him being homesick.

$500k a year in SA gets you a lot further than $600k a year in NSW.

 

[radiojake]

Crows win the spoon next year ill have $100 on if your willing to bet on the natural progression of their kids.

$100 on Crows winning spoon?

So even if finishing 17th you lose? I'll take that up

 

[Ah12]

$100 on Crows winning spoon?

So even if finishing 17th you lose? I'll take that up

Your on, i look forward to death riding the franchise for 12 months. Similar to when you open up a Mcdonalds. They insist in you working there for 12 months before you start to cash in on the profits.

 

[radiojake]

weird analogy but whatever floats your boat

hope you aint a welcher - while Crows no doubt lower end of ladder again I just dont see a spoon in them

 

[Ah12]

weird analogy but whatever floats your boat

hope you aint a welcher - while Crows no doubt lower end of ladder again I just dont see a spoon in them

Very happy to pay up should they avoid it. I expect a re-post either way in 12 months time.

Goodluck

 

[anotherletdown]

Seems a bad deal for Adelaide on the surface of it.

I think keeping pick 4 is essential for the Crows in their rebuild.

I would think a 3 pick downgrade in the top 10 (a downgrade after the cream of the crop is gone) and a second rounder a good deal for the best kick in the comp.

 

[anotherletdown]

I'm hearing pick 16 is "around the mark" and not a steal. He had a fantastic second half this year so has potential to be an elite player but that's all it is, we are not trying to recruit an already well established elite player.

Well if you think the 18th (after father sons) best kid in the country gets you more potential to be elite than Dawson then I'm all ears... and very excited by our pick 12/14

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I would think a 3 pick downgrade in the top 10 (a downgrade after the cream of the crop is gone) and a second rounder a good deal for the best kick in the comp.

That would be a great deal for Lachie Whitfield.

 

[The Tilt]

He left solely for the same reason Dawson will be and that's salary cap pressure. It had nothing to do with the Swans needing a one on one KPD or whatever sh*t you're trying to peddle.

The other point with Allir trade is that it allowed the Swans to get Hickey. Good as Allir has been for Port, I'd be happy for them to do the trade again (i.e. I'd rather have Hickey than Allir).

 

[bluebob1]

That would be a great deal for Lachie Whitfield.

Not such a good deal for Daniel Rich though

 

[WillHayward]

I'm hearing pick 16 is "around the mark" and not a steal. He had a fantastic second half this year so has potential to be an elite player but that's all it is, we are not trying to recruit an already well established elite player.

Hes very good. Elite kick. Good overhead. Smart. Can go fwd too.

 

[ABAB]

Hes very good. Elite kick. Good overhead. Smart. Can go fwd too.

And potential to be elite.

 

[WillHayward]

And potential to be elite.

3rd in B & F . Already probably is.

 

[FreeAgent1]

Classic trade period.

Club losing player: He is a gun, sad to lose him
Club getting player: Awesome, we should target him HARD
Club losing player: Are you going to pay him $$
Club getting player: Oh he's going to get PAID like a gun
Club losing player: Awesome, I assume the trade capital will align to his pay and "gun" status
Club getting player:....... nah he has nominated, worth a late second.

 

[ABAB]

3rd in B & F . Already probably is.

Excellent 2nd half doesn't make you elite, a lot of players finish top 3 in the B&F and aren't consider elite.

 

[ABAB]

Classic trade period.

Club losing player: He is a gun, sad to lose him
Club getting player: Awesome, we should target him HARD
Club losing player: Are you going to pay him $$
Club getting player: Oh he's going to get PAID like a gun
Club losing player: Awesome, I assume the trade capital will align to his pay and "gun" status
Club getting player:....... nah he has nominated, worth a late second.

Supposedly all 3 clubs are offering around the same mark of $500K, that is nowhere near what elite player earn.

 

[Chopperdave]

Classic trade period.

Club losing player: He is a gun, sad to lose him
Club getting player: Awesome, we should target him HARD
Club losing player: Are you going to pay him $$
Club getting player: Oh he's going to get PAID like a gun
Club losing player: Awesome, I assume the trade capital will align to his pay and "gun" status
Club getting player:....... nah he has nominated, worth a late second.

I don't really think that's what is happening here at all. I mean both Port and Adelaide supporters have all admitted he is looking like he could be a "gun" as you say. But on form he doesn't have as many runs in the bank as some other players might therefore his trade value lowers somewhat.

When you look at what similar players have gone for pick 16-20 doesn't seem overs? Someone like Ed Langdon would be a fair comparison who went for essentially a future second and some pick swapping.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Some posters from both SA clubs outing themselves as knowing very little about football in this thread. Ed Langdon

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Ed Langdon

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.0

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.3

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

20.3

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

7.5

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

0.8

1star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

at Fremantle wasn't fit to tie Dawson's boots.

 

[Crowmurder]

Supposedly all 3 clubs are offering around the same mark of $500K, that is nowhere near what elite player earn.

Can't speak for the Swans, but the Crows and Port offers are significantly higher than 500k.

 

[Chopperdave]

Some posters from both SA clubs outing themselves as knowing very little about football in this thread. Ed Langdon at Fremantle wasn't fit to tie Dawson's boots.

I could say the same thing about you? Yes, Dawson is a far better kick than Langdon but Langdon is one of the best runners in the AFL and had more runs on the board when he was traded.

Lets not pretend Dawson has had 2-3 elite seasons so far.

 

[ABAB]

Can't speak for the Swans, but the Crows and Port offers are significantly higher than 500k.

Do tell, Port Power supposedly had $800K in their salary cap to unsuccessfully chase Merrett so I assume it around the $700K mark and for potential is quite steep......