Traded Jordan Dawson traded to Adelaide for F1 (Melb)

[Joey JoJo Jr Shabadoo]

Only bright side out of this deal for the Swans is just further re-enforcing the need for academies in non-traditional states.

Finlayson, M.Kennedy, Setterfield and Zac Williams were all GWS academy players who requested trades interstate. The academy system isn’t a solution to player retention issues.

 

[Concussion test]

Adelaides only priority is getting there future best player that will have to carry the rest on the list
nothing else matters

Agreed, we have our eye on someone very special in the draft at pick 4.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

huh? Based on what? Adelaide are the ones who have already offered up something decent.

Sydney are the ones dicking around by asking for pick 4.

I dont know im just saying we do not play hardball we are very player welfare oriented.

 

[GROTTO]

Big difference between pick 17 and that next level of compensation Adelaide can offer.

IMO pick 17 is really fair, Sydney is being unreasonable here.

Suspect it will end up as Pick 17 + favourable late pick shuffles for Dawson.

Once neutral observers consider a trade as fair, I think Adelaide has done all that it can.

It will be good getting Dawson via the PSD for nothing in the end.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

The "As expected" bit is interesting actually.

yep, seems the media are catching on to Sydney’s bs.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

With your second this year. I agree. It will involve those two picks and it will be Dawson and our second or third coming your way. Basically values Dawson in the high teens and it gives options.

So you value Dawson in the high teens... yet pick 17 is unacceptable.

Interesting...

 

[Membling]

yep, seems the media are catching on to Sydney’s bs.

More so the fact that it was expected that we would not agree to that....

 

[chopflop]

PSD is a fair outcome here

 

[LukeParkerno1]

So you value Dawson in the high teens... yet pick 17 is unacceptable.

Interesting...

Teens means a lot better than 17. There’s a difference there. That is still unders

 

[Bulldogs85]

Yer i must admit its quite unusual for us to take a stance like this not to sure how i feel about it.

We can still do the trade with Adelaide

 

[GROTTO]

We can still do the trade with Adelaide

Thanks Luke.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Once neutral observers consider a trade as fair, I think Adelaide has done all that it can.

It will be good getting Dawson via the PSD for nothing in the end.

If that happens i tip my hat off to you good negotiating

 

[Prochard123]

Once neutral observers consider a trade as fair, I think Adelaide has done all that it can.

It will be good getting Dawson via the PSD for nothing in the end.

Thing is for a neutral observer I'm a big fan of Dawson too... See my comment on the first page of this thread on Dawson in May:

An above average defender, potentially borderline elite.

Great marking skills, excellent kicking out of defense. Problem is he is rather slow pace wise, and defensively he's not as competent as other 3rd talls (Howe, Lever, Hayne, etc.)

Late 1st round pick in the 15-20 range for a contender looking to improve defensive rebounds I reckon.

 

[GROTTO]

If that happens i tip my hat off to you good negotiating

Not really good negotiating at all.

Its fair trade that should have been accepted from the get go.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

More so the fact that it was expected that we would not agree to that....

Yeah exactly, Morris was expecting Sydney to be unreasonable.

 

[GROTTO]

Teens means 10-12 not 17. There’s a difference there. That is still unders

Heads up, teens is not 10-12.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Teens means 10-12 not 17. There’s a difference there. That is still unders

10-12 literally aren’t teen numbers. Teens start at 13 and you said a high teen which 17 is.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Teens means 10-12 not 17. There’s a difference there. That is still unders

Um.. Teens means 13-19 because they all end in ‘teen’.
10-12 don’t.

 

[GROTTO]

So you value Dawson in the high teens... yet pick 17 is unacceptable.

Interesting...

TBH I am loving the stance that Sydney are taking, as it means we get Dawson via the PSD and get to keep Pick 17 if we trade for it.

Massive win-win.

 

[Membling]

Yeah exactly, Morris was expecting Sydney to be unreasonable.

I suppose we all read it differently depending on which side of the fence we are on

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

If the swans are rejecting pick 17 they probably aren't thinking there's much different between that and walking for free in PSD.

So now late 1st rounders are next to worthless.

Interesting...

I guess when you usually get 1st crack at quality academy players, picks become so so.

Guess you don't mind we take him in the PSD with that reasoning.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Not really good negotiating at all.

Its fair trade that should have been accepted from the get go.

You have options you have pick 4, a future first or you can even split pick 4.

You just dont want to thats fine you can say we are being greedy or asking for to much but we can equally say ur not doing everything you can to secure the deal.

 

[GROTTO]

I suppose we all read it differently depending on which side of the fence we are on

Neutral unbiased observers are viewing Sydney as unreasonable.

The optics is not great.

In any case, would rather get Dawson for nothing via the PSD and keep an invaluable 1st rounder like Pick 17 potentially.

 

[Punts]

He will stay before going in the pre season draft

worries that his old coaches might snag him

 

[King_Tredrea]

Yeah, Sydney reportedly not accepting what would be Pick 17 is an interesting one. Not really sure where it goes from there.

 

[Membling]

Neutral unbiased observers are viewing Sydney as unreasonable.

The optics is not great.

In any case, would rather get Dawson for nothing via the PSD and keep an invaluable 1st rounder like Pick 17 potentially.

We put out what we want, you do not meet it and we say no thank you.

Round one of trade negotiations is complete. Move on to next stage.

"Unreasonable" is subjective in this instance