Traded Jordan Dawson traded to Adelaide for F1 (Melb)

[Joey JoJo Jr Shabadoo]

Only bright side out of this deal for the Swans is just further re-enforcing the need for academies in non-traditional states.

Finlayson, M.Kennedy, Setterfield and Zac Williams were all GWS academy players who requested trades interstate. The academy system isn’t a solution to player retention issues.

 

[Lore]

Guess they've had some time to put this little video together

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

PSD was never meant as negotiating/threat method to get lower value of a player.

AFL player movement in general is a mess.

 

[Lore]

PSD was never meant as negotiating/threat method to get lower value of a player.

AFL player movement in general is a mess.

It's intended as an option of last resort for uncontracted players who are not free agents to re-enter the system, with preference given to clubs at the bottom of the ladder framed as equalisation.

That he wanted to go to a club that was already 15th is just how the cookie crumbles sometimes, but it's hardly the worst thing for a club at the bottom of the ladder to get a deal a little bit in their favour from a club nearer to the top. Objectively speaking. It's less desirable when it's your own club obviously

 

[Tippett2Goal]

Only bright side out of this deal for the Swans is just further re-enforcing the need for academies in non-traditional states.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Only bright side out of this deal for the Swans is just further re-enforcing the need for academies in non-traditional states.

This is a joke right? Adelaide have been pillaged over the years.

I understand your pain at the moment. All I can say is I hope that you don’t get to the point where most Adelaide fans are where you become numb to players leaving now.

 

[BloodySwan]

This is a joke right? Adelaide have been pillaged over the years.

I understand your pain at the moment. All I can say is I hope that you don’t get to the point where most Adelaide fans are where you become numb to players leaving now.

The last 2 seasons Crows have specifically targeted Adelaide raised players and all I hear is how the Crows are going after Rankine and Luko next season. Crows might have lost players but you're still in front of NSW and QLD teams

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Seems a remarkably simple trade for something that took ages.

For a middling 24 year old as well.

 

[footyfan1978]

This!

If Crows want to keep good faith for future trades with Swans, you got to do some form of trade that middle ground for both clubs.
Future first round is keeping in good faith.

 

[Tippett2Goal]

This is a joke right? Adelaide have been pillaged over the years.

I understand your pain at the moment. All I can say is I hope that you don’t get to the point where most Adelaide fans are where you become numb to players leaving now.

No joke

Adelaide changed their recruiting strategy as a result of being pillaged, and favoured SA kids
They also have the benefit of being able to get players that want to come home to SA in roughly proportional numbers to their teams.

Without academies Qld and NSW teams don't have the capacity to do either of these things.
All we've been able to do is try avoid Vic metro kids who are seen as greatest flight risk, but have no capacity to favour NSW kids, or get NSW players wanting to come home.

Another highly rated player "going home" just further re-enforces the disadvantage non-traditional markets face.

 

[footyfan1978]

Seems a remarkably simple trade for something that took ages.

For a middling 24 year old as well.

I do not see why people think these trades have to be rushed.
It not like it been left to 20 minutes of trade period or anything.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I do not see why people think these trades have to be rushed.
It not like it been left to 20 minutes of trade period or anything.

It isn't about rushing, this trade has been in the wind for weeks so you'd assume there would already have been plenty of dialogue.

The main benefit for a deal to be struck early - is it gives certainty to all three parties. And allows energies to go elsewhere.

If it's a simple transaction - get it done and move onto other strategies to better your list - perhaps pick swaps etc

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

No joke

Adelaide changed their recruiting strategy as a result of being pillaged, and favoured SA kids
They also have the benefit of being able to get players that want to come home to SA in roughly proportional numbers to their teams.

Without academies Qld and NSW teams don't have the capacity to do either of these things.
All we've been able to do is try avoid Vic metro kids who are seen as greatest flight risk, but have no capacity to favour NSW kids, or get NSW players wanting to come home.

Another highly rated player "going home" just further re-enforces the disadvantage non-traditional markets face.

Fair rationale.

 

[Lore]

 

[catman2006]

At least Charlie G was honest in his assessment.

 

[Tippett2Goal]

At least Charlie G was honest in his assessment.

Yep obviously (like most Sydney fans), he feels we were short changed, but had no other options

 

[Opine]

Adelaide can go jump in a septic tank.

Looks like it’s your mob that came up septic after this trade. Go the Dees in 22

 

[Jibroni]

PSD was never meant as negotiating/threat method to get lower value of a player.

AFL player movement in general is a mess.

Allowing clubs to trade PSD picks would fix this

 

[GROTTO]

Its Official.

 

[Mutineer]

Only bright side out of this deal for the Swans is just further re-enforcing the need for academies in non-traditional states.

Have you ever checked the players Adelaide has lost over the years, mostly Victorian mummy's boys, Dawson is a nice player but he's no Dangerfield.

 

[Jibroni]

Only bright side out of this deal for the Swans is just further re-enforcing the need for academies in non-traditional states.

Crows have lost as many over the years with only a few coming back.

 

[Bernie L]

 

[PsychoG]

Can understand the frustration from Swans fans, it never feels nice to have a good player leave, a feeling I've become very used to as a Crows fan over the last 10 years, so I have sympathy.

The fact that clubs typically have to accept unders for uncontracted players only makes it a harder pill to swallow. It's just the way it is with the players and nominated club holding all the power.

 

[Crow till I die]

 

[La Dispute]

Seems bang on to me.

Dawson had a great finish to the year, looks to be transitioning into one of the better half backs in the league, but 15-20 is still roughly his range. Always the possibility the future pick ends up higher than predicted if the aligned team has an ordinary year.