Josh Hunt

[TheTimeCometh]

the string. i miss it.

 

[scottydeewah]

There are a bunch of people on here who are never happy. Same bunch of people whose solution to everything is "dump him", "sack him", etc without offering any actual solution to the problem they invented in the first place.

 

[martyk]

There are a bunch of people on here who are never happy. Same bunch of people whose solution to everything is "dump him", "sack him", etc without offering any actual solution to the problem they invented in the first place.

There are also people who post pointless garbage like the above. You point out my analysis on Harley wasn't to your liking and instead of contributing to the topic you reel out some pathetic joke to try and appeal to all of your boyfriends on here.

Go look up the meaning of the word hypocrite. Idiot.

 

[year of the cat]

,,,,,

Well summed up. Couldn't count the number of times last year that Harley would take a mark in the back half to ward off a dangerous forward entry. Leadership with a capaital L. Would love to hear Scarlett's opinion of Harley's worth to the team. Still some shit for brains still takes uninformed pot shots at him.

 

[meani]

Well summed up. Couldn't count the number of times last year that Harley would take a mark in the back half to ward off a dangerous forward entry. Leadership with a capaital L. Would love to hear Scarlett's opinion of Harley's worth to the team. Still some shit for brains still takes uninformed pot shots at him.

martyk i presume.....

 

[Mooney_d'King]

FACT- Harley gets his ass torn apart by good small forwards (Ebert,Brown,Milne,B.Johnson etc.)

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Can't you recall Geelong V StKilda last year at the dome for example? Reiwoldt gave him a hiding when Egan was off the ground briefly. He got them back in the game single handed while on Harley.

Harley VERY rarely plays on dangerous forwards for that reason, he's not matched well against them... hence my point.

First your point was that Harley got his ass torn apart by GOOD SMALL FORWARDS.

Then you cited probably the most opposite of a small forward, Reiwoldt, as when he got his ass torn apart once.

Then when someone proved you wrong about Harley being getting beaten by small forwards your point all of a sudden became that he was never played on dangerous forwards. So you changed your tack and in the process became the hypocrite you accused someone else of.

Then you abused that person to take the heat off yourself, a tactic that sometimes can work well.

Marty, sometimes you make some very good points, and amongst your bluster you still normally do, but when you contradict yourself like this AND then become condescending and abusive to other posters, it's little wonder that people end up dismissing what you have to say and brushing you aside. We've seen it all before.

FWIW, I think Hunt is best used as the attacking defender, not a KPP. I think Harley is an excellent player and captain best suited to smaller forwards and the third man up in contests in defence.

 

[CatFan79]

martyk i presume.....

Yeah newbie, and your additions to this discussion have been mind blowing..

 

[CatFan79]

FWIW, I think Hunt is best used as the attacking defender, not a KPP. I think Harley is an excellent player and captain best suited to smaller forwards and the third man up in contests in defence.

I agree with the Hunt comment, however, we have no better alternatives for a small defender in our best 22 so Hunt kinda gets stuck with it doesn't he..

Harley may be a very good captain but he definitely is no longer an excellent player, he is useful at the moment as a spare parts defender who provides support to contests.. Although Harley's captaining abilities are great I think some people here are over-rating his current abilities as a football player..

 

[Mooney_d'King]

I agree with the Hunt comment, however, we have no better alternatives for a small defender in our best 22 so Hunt kinda gets stuck with it doesn't he..

Yes.

Harley may be a very good captain but he definitely is no longer an excellent player, he is useful at the moment as a spare parts defender who provides support to contests.. Although Harley's captaining abilities are great I think some people here are over-rating his current abilities as a football player..

Yes, perhaps so. Probably a more accurate description.

 

[Partridge]

FACT- Harley gets his ass torn apart by good small forwards (Ebert,Brown,Milne,B.Johnson etc.) Who do you play on these guys when you remove Hunt and replace him with Egan??? Mackie can't play on small forwards. Too slow, gets beaten easily in one on one contests etc, etc.

Really? Let's pick a few games from last year to see how well the small forwards went against Harley.

Round 11 v Adelaide - completely shut Ricciuto out. Killed him.
Round 13 v Sydney - completely shut down Nick Davis.
Round 15 v Collingwood - completely blanketed Dale Thomas.
Round 16 v Bulldogs - conceded 3 goals to Brad Johnson. Not a bad result.
Round 17 v Fremantle - obliterated Jeff Farmer. Barely sighted.
Round 20 v North - complete annihilation of Corey Jones.
Round 22 v Brisbane - shut down Brennan.
QF v North - Destroyed Corey Jones AGAIN.
PF v Collingwood - Shut down Medhurst.
Grand Final v Port - Almost saved the best until last. Outmuscled, outbodied, and comprehensively outplayed Motlop to the point of embarrassment.

So at a quick glance, that's Nick Davis, Dale Thomas, Jeff Farmer, Corey Jones (twice), Paul Medhurst and Daniel Motlop. All pretty dangerous small to medium sized forwards, all well beaten by Harley. And they're just the ones I can remember. After a rusty first game back (against St.Kilda, and even then Riewoldt only took 2 marks on him - hardly a thrashing), I don't think he was beaten again for the rest of the season. Not bad for a weak link.

I had big doubts on Harley at the start of the year, but was more than happy to be proven spectacularly wrong. I told him exactly that at the Best & Fairest count as well.

 

[catattack007]

Really? Let's pick a few games from last year to see how well the small forwards went against Harley.

Round 11 v Adelaide - completely shut Ricciuto out. Killed him.
Round 13 v Sydney - completely shut down Nick Davis.
Round 15 v Collingwood - completely blanketed Dale Thomas.
Round 16 v Bulldogs - conceded 3 goals to Brad Johnson. Not a bad result.
Round 17 v Fremantle - obliterated Jeff Farmer. Barely sighted.
Round 20 v North - complete annihilation of Corey Jones.
Round 22 v Brisbane - shut down Brennan.
QF v North - Destroyed Corey Jones AGAIN.
PF v Collingwood - Shut down Medhurst.
Grand Final v Port - Almost saved the best until last. Outmuscled, outbodied, and comprehensively outplayed Motlop to the point of embarrassment.

So at a quick glance, that's Nick Davis, Dale Thomas, Jeff Farmer, Corey Jones (twice), Paul Medhurst and Daniel Motlop. All pretty dangerous small to medium sized forwards, all well beaten by Harley. And they're just the ones I can remember. After a rusty first game back (against St.Kilda, and even then Riewoldt only took 2 marks on him - hardly a thrashing), I don't think he was beaten again for the rest of the season. Not bad for a weak link.

I had big doubts on Harley at the start of the year, but was more than happy to be proven spectacularly wrong. I told him exactly that at the Best & Fairest count as well.

And 2 of those were from dodgy first quarter free kicks to keep the game close as we were flogging the doggies if i remember correctly.

Wasn't this just a brilliant performance by the skipper and extremely satisfying as i had read all week that Motlop was the X factor and was going to do a Darren Jarman on us and take the Norm Smith......Someone forgot to tell Tommy.

 

[darren forssman]

Really? Let's pick a few games from last year to see how well the small forwards went against Harley.

Round 11 v Adelaide - completely shut Ricciuto out. Killed him.
Round 13 v Sydney - completely shut down Nick Davis.
Round 15 v Collingwood - completely blanketed Dale Thomas.
Round 16 v Bulldogs - conceded 3 goals to Brad Johnson. Not a bad result.
Round 17 v Fremantle - obliterated Jeff Farmer. Barely sighted.
Round 20 v North - complete annihilation of Corey Jones.
Round 22 v Brisbane - shut down Brennan.
QF v North - Destroyed Corey Jones AGAIN.
PF v Collingwood - Shut down Medhurst.
Grand Final v Port - Almost saved the best until last. Outmuscled, outbodied, and comprehensively outplayed Motlop to the point of embarrassment.

Round 11 v Adelaide - did he actually not play on mcgregor or was moved to him and mcgregor kicked 2-3 goals?
Round 16 v Bulldogs - i am sure joshua hunt took johnson, i can actually remember thinking johnson was going to tear him apart.
PF v. Collingwood - i also thought joshua hunt had medhurst.
The others i am not sure.

Not knocking harley either, just a stickler for details and happy to be corrected myself.

Will have to go back to the video tapes...and my video munching recorder to confirm.

 

[catattack007]

Round 11 v Adelaide - did he actually not play on mcgregor or was moved to him and mcgregor kicked 2-3 goals?
Round 16 v Bulldogs - i am sure joshua hunt took johnson, i can actually remember thinking johnson was going to tear him apart.
PF v. Collingwood - i also thought joshua hunt had medhurst.
The others i am not sure.

Not knocking harley either, just a stickler for details and happy to be corrected myself.

Will have to go back to the video tapes...and my video munching recorder to confirm.

You could be right about McGregor, there was some mixing and matching in that game.

Hunt did play on Johnson in patches as I shared your concerns but pretty sure Harley started on him.

As for the prelim Harley stood Medhurst and Hunt stood Rusling all night coz the commentary on 7 and MMM both wouldnt shut up about Collingwood going to Rusling as it was a mis match in thier opinions.

P.S- Dont except your recorder chewing your cats tapes

 

[darren forssman]

You could be right about McGregor, there was some mixing and matching in that game.

Hunt did play on Johnson in patches as I shared your concerns but pretty sure Harley started on him.

As for the prelim Harley stood Medhurst and Hunt stood Rusling all night coz the commentary on 7 and MMM both wouldnt shut up about Collingwood going to Rusling as it was a mis match in thier opinions.

P.S- Dont except your recorder chewing your cats tapes

the cats tapes are useless now, got a dvd recorder now.

 

[catempire]

Dear oh dear.

The criticisms of Harley at the start of last year (injury prone, past it, can't play tall defenders, shouldn't be captain, brought back too early) were in some ways understandable.

Surely, BUT SURELY, his performances BOTH as a captain and as a player last season put all that to rest.

Thankfully, I don't need to explain why thanks to the excellent rebuttals made by DanA, Mooney_d'King and Partridge. Harley was FANTASTIC in 2007.

 

[DanA]

Dear oh dear.

The criticisms of Harley at the start of last year (injury prone, past it, can't play tall defenders, shouldn't be captain, brought back too early) were in some ways understandable.

Surely, BUT SURELY, his performances BOTH as a captain and as a player last season put all that to rest.

Thankfully, I don't need to explain why thanks to the excellent rebuttals made by DanA, Mooney_d'King and Partridge. Harley was FANTASTIC in 2007.

That's the thing. I reckon he was probably our 4th best defender behind the 3 AA's. From what I have heard I suspect a large part of Mackie, Egan & Harry Taylor's improvement can be attributed to Harley's guidance.

 

[CatFan79]

I think some of you might benefit from a second dose of reality..

Harley may be a very good captain but he definitely is no longer an excellent player, he is useful at the moment as a spare parts defender who provides support to contests.. Although Harley's captaining abilities are great I think some people here are over-rating his current abilities as a football player..

 

[catempire]

I think some of you might benefit from a second dose of reality..

Um, quoting your own misguided opinions ain't profound.

I notice that it's the perennial Hunt fan club criticising Harley.

Harley >>>>>> Hunt

discuss...

 

[CatFan79]

That's the thing. I reckon he was probably our 4th best defender behind the 3 AA's. From what I have heard I suspect a large part of Mackie, Egan & Harry Taylor's improvement can be attributed to Harley's guidance.

Tenace was our 10th best midfielder and from what I have heard i suspect that Gaz and Bartel's kicking ability and can be attributed to Tenace's guidance.

Hahaha you guys crack me up!! Love it..

 

[Mooney_d'King]

Dear oh dear.

The criticisms of Harley at the start of last year (injury prone, past it, can't play tall defenders, shouldn't be captain, brought back too early) were in some ways understandable.

Surely, BUT SURELY, his performances BOTH as a captain and as a player last season put all that to rest.

Thankfully, I don't need to explain why thanks to the excellent rebuttals made by DanA, Mooney_d'King and Partridge. Harley was FANTASTIC in 2007.

Without a doubt. And, more than anything, he provided true leadership: not this fractured "I'm captain but what does that mean" crap, REAL leadership. Stuff that makes a difference, stuff that makes people feel like they belong and that they wanna GIVE.

 

[Cattery]

Harley may be a very good captain but he definitely is no longer an excellent player, he is useful at the moment as a spare parts defender who provides support to contests.. Although Harley's captaining abilities are great I think some people here are over-rating his current abilities as a football player..

Can't believe what I'm reading here, he [ Harley ] has just played arguably his best season of footy ever and suddenly he's a "useful spare parts defender."
The guy didn't put a foot wrong from his second game back after injury, overrated, nope I'd say "most" Cats supporters know exactly how good he is.

He's also completely smashed every small/medium forward he played on in 07 [ as comprehensivly pointed out by Partridge ] yet there's a comment, [ Post 14 ] claimed as FACT, that he "gets his ass torn apart by good small forwards" well sorry, but that's so far from a fact that it's laughable.

 

[DanA]

Tenace was our 10th best midfielder and from what I have heard i suspect that Gaz and Bartel's kicking ability and can be attributed to Tenace's guidance.

Hahaha you guys crack me up!! Love it..

Yeah hahaha how witty. It might surprise you that part of the role of being in the leadership group is to guide the less experienced players. It been talked about a lot that Mooney this preseason has spent a lot of time helping Hawkins with his leading/positioning etc. To the point where there ia a running joke about how sick Mooney is of the sight of Hawkins.

Guess who's been doing it it down the other end the last few years? Egan, Mackie have had dramatic improvement over a short period of time. Do you think it might be the KP backmen in the leadership group?

 

[CatFan79]

Can't believe what I'm reading here, he [ Harley ] has just played arguably his best season of footy ever and suddenly he's a "useful spare parts defender."

I don't think you truly believe this. Harley was more valuable when he could handle key position forwards..

yet there's a comment, [ Post 14 ] claimed as FACT, that he "gets his ass torn apart by good small forwards" well sorry, but that's so far from a fact that it's laughable.

I'm sure a few doggies supporters probably found the way B. Johnson tore Harley apart in round 1 2007 laughable.

I'm not AT ALL saying Harley is useless or shouldn't be in the team but the way some of you blow sunshine up his a$$ is rather amusing..

 

[JUBJUB]

Oh no,who started bagging Duck Hunt ?
You know a couple of people get their panties in a twist when there is any criticism of Duck Hunt.

 

[Hood007]

Oh no,who started bagging Duck Hunt ?
You know a couple of people get their panties in a twist when there is any criticism of Duck Hunt.

Renegade come on down...