Recommitted Josh Kelly [re-signed]

[Dennis Trumpet]

We will be back right in contention very quickly. You may have noticed some very good young players on Sunday.

Yeah that Brandan Parfitt looks like he'll go allright

 

[Jade]

GWS lose kelly and 2018 first but get Norths 2017 and 2018 firsts?

This isn't bad IMO.

 

[MaddAdam]

Yeah that Brandan Parfitt looks like he'll go allright

Was he wearing green?

 

[Drewie11]

Not sure how it will work by some F/S bids and an academy pick coming up in 2018 that will see us requiring points for bidding.

I'm sure we could help you out with some points...... all it will cost you is Dumont (I think that's what his name is)

 

[Roadto2018]

2017 & 2018 1sts for Kelly and a 2017 2nd would be fair IMO, but wow $9mil over 9 is a huge price for a bloke who's not a proven superstar just yet.

 

[MaddAdam]

I'm sure we could help you out with some points...... all it will cost you is Dumont (I think that's what his name is)

See, this is the question, I'm loathe to get into any kind speculating about trades until the kid says he wants to go.

But what if GWS don't want picks.

What if they like the look of Preuss as a ready made replacement for Mumford etc?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Treloar at the time of trading was a better player than Kelly.

Maybe drop off the GWS 2017 2nd rounder so

North lose 2017 and 2018 first but get Kelly and GWS 2018 first

GWS lose kelly and 2018 first but get Norths 2017 and 2018 firsts?

I would do that.

 

[Overture]

EFA.

You seem pretty into GWS receiving maximum price for departing players - seems odd considering they're right up there challenging for premierships with you, and are your crosstown rivals.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I'm sure we could help you out with some points...... all it will cost you is Dumont (I think that's what his name is)

Surprised you are not after Durdin, like a few of your fellow crows posters last year, but you guys are somewhat stocked in KPD's.

 

[Drewie11]

See, this is the question, I'm loathe to get into any kind speculating about trades until the kid says he wants to go.

But what if GWS don't want picks.

What if they like the look of Preuss as a ready made replacement for Mumford etc?

With the look of Pruess I would be pushing to trade picks if I were North. I think what most are doing on here though is trying to establish what his trade value is in draft picks though.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

You seem pretty into GWS receiving maximum price for departing players - seems odd considering they're right up there challenging for premierships with you, and are your crosstown rivals.

Doesn't matter who it is, I rather teams get fair value. GWS don't need to give anything except Kelly and maybe a late pick (3rd at most).

 

[Drewie11]

Surprised you are not after Durdin, like a few of your fellow crows posters last year, but you guys are somewhat stocked in KPD's.

We are short in the midfield and Dumont looks like he is ready to get consistent numbers. Our talls are pretty decent at the moment

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

Ideal for us would be to include Goldy in a trade as Preuss will be ready for #1 ruck next year and Goldy still has a lot of value. I doubt GWS will want him as he's only 1-2 years younger than Mummy, but a three club deal would be ace.

 

[Jade]

Now being reported by Fox Sports

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/out...e/news-story/75d36c709af9a776ed66f4b244ec54e3

To reiterate, I think this is a good play by North.

 

[Wild Bill]

I think we should play all our kids - most of the time out of position - finish last and walk him to the PSD. Kelly for free and the number 1 pick is a good start for a re-build!!

Is this how its done when you are down the bottom of the ladder? It has been a while.

 

[Pykie]

Doesn't matter who it is, I rather teams get fair value. GWS don't need to give anything except Kelly and maybe a late pick (3rd at most).

Your missing the fact he is out of contract, certainly doesn't destroy his value but somewhat diminishes GWS' bargaining power.

 

[Wild Bill]

Ideal for us would be to include Goldy in a trade as Preuss will be ready for #1 ruck next year and Goldy still has a lot of value. I doubt GWS will want him as he's only 1-2 years younger than Mummy, but a three club deal would be ace.

Goldy could still get us a decent pick IMO. Swans or Dogs would be a great fit.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Absolutely no scenario where north don't give up there first rounder this year and next year for Kelly, if it's 1 mil a year for 9 years.

 

[Golden_6]

Kelly is an absolute gun but still a fair bit of risk in this deal. He's more of a cream rather than cake player and is essentially free to do what he likes up at GWS. Yet to prove himself against a hard tag or as a number 1 midfielder, and I don't think he's the sort of player that could drag his team to a win.

I guess it's going depend on the increase in salary cap but 9 years is a bloody huge risk (I'm aware Tom Boyd was a 7 year contract and that could still be a risk going forward).

 

[HumanMeatball]

Your missing the fact he is out of contract, certainly doesn't destroy his value but somewhat diminishes GWS' bargaining power.

People use this out of contact crap every year it's a pointless Conversation teams nearly always pay fair value. 2 first rounders minimum

 

[MaddAdam]

Kelly is an absolute gun but still a fair bit of risk in this deal. He's more of a cream rather than cake player and is essentially free to do what he likes up at GWS. Yet to prove himself against a hard tag or as a number 1 midfielder, and I don't think he's the sort of player that could drag his team to a win.

I guess it's going depend on the increase in salary cap but 9 years is a bloody huge risk (I'm away Tom Boyd was a 7 year contract and that could still be a risk going forward).

Good post, we do though have good inside midfielders sorted for the next while so what we need is outside class.

And yep, it is a risk. As you say, Boyd was getting crap for being an overpaid bust then nearly won a Norm Smith.

Guys who are top 3 picks who have shown they can play well at the highest level are usually worth the bet.

 

[Wild Bill]

Absolutely no scenario where north don't give up there first rounder this year and next year for Kelly, if it's 1 mil a year for 9 years.

Depends how low this years is - if its pick 1-3 not sure they will get our 1st next year.

 

[Wild Bill]

Kelly is an absolute gun but still a fair bit of risk in this deal. He's more of a cream rather than cake player and is essentially free to do what he likes up at GWS. Yet to prove himself against a hard tag or as a number 1 midfielder, and I don't think he's the sort of player that could drag his team to a win.

I guess it's going depend on the increase in salary cap but 9 years is a bloody huge risk (I'm away Tom Boyd was a 7 year contract and that could still be a risk going forward).

We have a lot of inside mids - we need outside run and elite kicking. He is a great fit for our team and worth the risk IMO.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Depends how low this years is - if its pick 1-3 not sure they will get our 1st next year.

Yes it would and then you probably get an early second back

 

[HumanMeatball]

I really don't think Kelly is worth 1 million for 9 years, he is a great finisher for a team but not the sort to build a team around