Recommitted Josh Kelly [re-signed]

[Pykie]

I do not think so, and guess what, that contract saga and its effects are still playing out as is another further up north!

You dont think so?

Well, I reckon Sydney had a bit of talent on their list just quietly when they offered that multi-million dollar deal.

 

[Nutjob]

Why would CFC or Freo not trump you? The restraint of trade would be Kelly being allowed to not accept them given Kelly is supposed to not be a free agent which seems to be a contradiction with the rules of the pre-season draft.

The only reason you are supposedly offering Kelly the multi-million contract is presumably because you have little value on your list going forward. If you had a heap of quality players going forward you probably could not afford Kelly at such a high contract!

Freo are the same and Fyfe is now outside their window so whether it is this year, in 2 years or later he will probably move on like Deledio. It is not like Fyfe could stick around like Pavlich and realistically expect premierships at Freo short to mid-term.

CFC on the other hand have Weitering and plenty of young talent coming through. They could easily offload a Murphy, Gibbs or even Kruzeur and load up on Kelly and Schache creating a young player cartel within their club with a specific future window in mind through the use of contracts and relationship building. Their seems to be some commentary in the media Gibbs could easily be facilitated later in the year via a trade to Adelaide from CFC after the 2016 efforts

I think you're forgetting one important point? What if freo or Carlton don't rate him enough to pay him 9 mill over 9 years? It's a monster offer with a huge element of risk attached to it. Not all clubs would be willing to do that or want to completely restructure their list to do so.
It's not about restraint of trade or Kelly refusing to go to certain clubs. It is about clubs willing to part with 9 mill over 9 years.
If it was as simple as you suggest for other clubs to pounce in the PSD at that price. Why are other clubs not being linked with him with similar deals?
It really is a mute point he won't go to the PSD.


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[Mr Magic]

You dont think so?

Well, I reckon Sydney had a bit of talent on their list just quietly when they offered that multi-million dollar deal.

Yep, but they haven't won anything with him and still are not currently favourites to do so going forward

 

[Mr Magic]

I think you're forgetting one important point? What if freo or Carlton don't rate him enough to pay him 9 mill over 9 years? It's a monster offer with a huge element of risk attached to it. Not all clubs would be willing to do that or want to completely restructure their list to do so.
It's not about restraint of trade or Kelly refusing to go to certain clubs. It is about clubs willing to part with 9 mill over 9 years.
If it was as simple as you suggest for other clubs to pounce in the PSD at that price. Why are other clubs not being linked with him with similar deals?
It really is a mute point he won't go to the PSD.


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They might not offer it either. But I think some clubs are going through the evolving landscape picking up what they should do next as are the players. No doubt clubs and players expectations at trade time have dramatically shifted over the years! There has been a lot of change and the Buddy and Boyd deals are only relatively recent as is the national competition and the sports players not having other occupations. Clubs and other stakeholders are still figuring out what they can do and which boundaries can be pushed. The point is CFC and Freo would not need to greatly restructure their list to do it and even if they did whats the loss if their is little to lose? Lynch fell asleep at Brisbane for periods and it still worked out for them as part of a three peat!!

 

[Pykie]

I think any trading of our 2018 first round pick becomes far more interesting given we will have acess to Tarryn Thomas in that year via our Tassie indigenous academy.

He's tracking as a top 5 pick at the moment, and we may only need 2 second round picks in 2018 and a late pick to take him.

So a deal similar to Treloar very well may work, with North getting Kelly and Thomas across the next 2 years.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I think any trading of our 2018 first round pick becomes far more interesting given we will have acess to Tarryn Thomas in that year via our Tassie indigenous academy.

He's tracking as a top 5 pick at the moment, and we may only need 2 second round picks in 2018 and a late pick to take him.

So a deal similar to Treloar very well may work, with North getting Kelly and Thomas across the next 2 years.

How does the Indigenous Academy work?

 

[Pykie]

How does the Indigenous Academy work?

Same as everyone else's next gen academies.

2018 is the first year it comes into effect, functions the same way as GWS/GC/Bri/Syd.

Thomas is an indigenous kid from Tassie, has been confirmed he is eligible and is in our academy. Was Tassie's MVP last year as a bottom ager, is playing in the AIS u/18 vs u/17 mixed game this weekend. Been playing seniors for Nth Launceston in the TSL since he was 15.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Same as everyone else's next gen academies.

2018 is the first year it comes into effect, functions the same way as GWS/GC/Bri/Syd.

Thomas is an indigenous kid from Tassie, has been confirmed he is eligible and is in our academy.

So currently they only allow you to pick up a kid if he lasts past the rookie draft, will every team's work like the Northern Academies from 2018 onwards?

 

[Pykie]

So currently they only allow you to pick up a kid if he lasts past the rookie draft, will every team's work like the Northern Academies from 2018 onwards?

That's for non-indigenous/multi-cultural background kids in your next gen academy.

Kids from an indigenous or multi-cultural background are eligible like the northern academies/FS selections.

 

[TazHawk15]

I see everyone here is finding out who is the most ignored member of the Richmond board....

I assume you are talking about that Richmond idiot who says #weareeveryonesgrandfinal

Or if there someone that has him beat in the moron stakes?

 

[Apex36]

I assume you are talking about that Richmond idiot who says #weareeveryonesgrandfinal

Or if there someone that has him beat in the moron stakes?

Dont underestimate the Richmond board.

 

[Giant Pete]

north could have done with some elite kicking tonight.

 

[Nutjob]

Dont underestimate the Richmond board.

The board that gets challenged every couple of months


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[coniglio_number1]

I think any trading of our 2018 first round pick becomes far more interesting given we will have acess to Tarryn Thomas in that year via our Tassie indigenous academy.

He's tracking as a top 5 pick at the moment, and we may only need 2 second round picks in 2018 and a late pick to take him.

So a deal similar to Treloar very well may work, with North getting Kelly and Thomas across the next 2 years.

North getting free access to a top 5 kid is BS. Tassie is afl heartland and has always produced stars!!


Am I doing the outrage right?

 

[The Filth Wizard]

North getting free access to a top 5 kid is BS. Tassie is afl heartland and has always produced stars!!


Am I doing the outrage right?

You're doing it perfectly.

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

I think any trading of our 2018 first round pick becomes far more interesting given we will have acess to Tarryn Thomas in that year via our Tassie indigenous academy.

He's tracking as a top 5 pick at the moment, and we may only need 2 second round picks in 2018 and a late pick to take him.

So a deal similar to Treloar very well may work, with North getting Kelly and Thomas across the next 2 years.

Aaaahhh, I love the smell of total hypocrisy in the morning.

 

[Pykie]

Aaaahhh, I love the smell of total hypocrisy in the morning.

Completely different, but anyway...

 

[Colonial]

Completely different, but anyway...

Nope.

Only difference is that its traditinal clubs

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[coniglio_number1]

Nope.

Only difference is that its traditinal clubs

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Well to be fair we still have access to the Murray region when it comes to indigenous and multicultural kids

 

[Pykie]

Nope.

Only difference is that its traditinal clubs

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Really?

Exactly the same rules and opportunities to draft players is it?

Back in your box I would of thought.

 

[Colonial]

Really?

Exactly the same rules and opportunities to draft players is it?

Back in your box I would of thought.

Thought it was evil academies.

I mean im all for em but ive been told often that they are evil by allot of individuals on here.

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[Colonial]

Well to be fair we still have access to the Murray region when it comes to indigenous and multicultural kids

True.

And im all for that.
Just awaiting the outcry.

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[YEMOC NAYR]

He's a good player, but is he worth that much? Only time will tell!

He's not worth it at all imo. But thats the kind of money it takes to get a kid that talented out of GWS atm

 

[JG22]

North fans, would you give pick 1 for Kelly?

 

[Wild Bill]

North fans, would you give pick 1 for Kelly?

Yes. Jet.