Traded Josh Schache [Traded to Melbourne for F4]

[bird_man]

He has just never been able to get going at AFL level.

With JUH and Darcy coming through it doesn't look like there's a spot there for him at the Dogs.

Did kick 14 goals in his last 2 VFL games. Maybe worth a shot for a club looking for a cheap tall forward.

 

[The Inbetweener]

Plenty on our board still think he can be a good player. He’s also shown some ability to play in defence.

Was in the side, got Covid, and never returned even as an emergency.

Bevo seemingly just doesn’t rate him.

Hope he gets a go elsewhere. Extremely skilled but we all know he lacks a bit of physicality. If you look at him as a tall half forward rather than a key position player, I still personally think he can play.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Rumour was the Pies were giving it some thought.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Rumour was the Pies were giving it some thought.

And St Kilda.

 

[Mofra]

Flanker in a KPP's body. Has outstanding endurance so surely gets a gig somewhere.
Probably goes for a token 5th rounder and a thank you handshake

 

[Sproj]

Regardless, he's a total bust for how he went in his draft year.

 

[Elixuh]

Amazing to think Schache is 25 and still on a list, seems so long ago now that we drafted him. Going low in the draft really extends your earning capacity and career length. It is a shame that the Lions had not implemented the draft matrix they have had in place since the year after Schache was drafted. We would never have taken him under our current drafting approach. Goes to show how overrated picks can be sometimes.

If he wasn't able to get a game consistently at the Dogs with their KPP stocks then the end is nigh you would have thought. A token pick should get a deal done.

 

[Foxman98]

Amazing to think Schache is 25 and still on a list, seems so long ago now that we drafted him. Going low in the draft really extends your earning capacity and career length. It is a shame that the Lions had not implemented the draft matrix they have had in place since the year after Schache was drafted. We would never have taken him under our current drafting approach. Goes to show how overrated picks can be sometimes.

If he wasn't able to get a game consistently at the Dogs with their KPP stocks then the end is nigh you would have thought. A token pick should get a deal done.

He's simply not a KPP player is the issue. He is tall and well built but does not have it between the ears to crash packs and play the role. I have no doubt he will get picked up by a lower team and string a few decent games together but he's just not a player who can consistently stand up in big games

 

[Elixuh]

He's simply not a KPP player is the issue. He is tall and well built but does not have it between the ears to crash packs and play the role. I have no doubt he will get picked up by a lower team and string a few decent games together but he's just not a player who can consistently stand up in big games

Agree, I just don't know what else you can play him as.

 

[BrutThough]

And St Kilda.

I think he would be a good fit for us given how cheap he would be.

We need someone to take a defender off King while being big enough that teams don't put their 2nd defender on Membrey and could run in the ruck for a few minutes to give Marshall a rest.

Jack Hayes looked good in that role early this year before he did his ACL but it's too risky to not bring in another option next year incase Hayes takes a while to get back to form. At a low price tag, Schache is worth a shot.

 

[Foxman98]

Agree, I just don't know what else you can play him as.

Given his size and tank I can see why we tried him r1 as a winger however he hasn't got the speed for it. Given he lacks defensive pressure you can't play him as a 4th "tall" so not really sure but if Tom Campbell is still on a list I have no doubts Josh will be too

 

[Foxman98]

I think he would be a good fit for us given how cheap he would be.

We need someone to take a defender off King while being big enough that teams don't put their 2nd defender on Membrey and could run in the ruck for a few minutes to give Marshall a rest.

Jack Hayes looked good in that role early this year before he did his ACL but it's too risky to not bring in another option next year incase Hayes takes a while to get back to form. At a low price tag, Schache is worth a shot.

Schache doesn't do that for you he will get the 3rd defender and will do alright against the bottom 6 teams but will struggle against the better teams

 

[BrutThough]

Schache doesn't do that for you he will get the 3rd defender and will do alright against the bottom 6 teams but will struggle against the better teams

That's better than watching King be double and triple teamed each week.

 

[Foxman98]

That's better than watching King be double and triple teamed each week.

They will still do that. We had the same issues with Naughton playing with him

 

[Elixuh]

I think he would be a good fit for us given how cheap he would be.

We need someone to take a defender off King while being big enough that teams don't put their 2nd defender on Membrey and could run in the ruck for a few minutes to give Marshall a rest.

Jack Hayes looked good in that role early this year before he did his ACL but it's too risky to not bring in another option next year incase Hayes takes a while to get back to form. At a low price tag, Schache is worth a shot.

Issue is Schache is only effective as a leading forward in an uncontested situation. In all other circumstances a smart defender will just sag off him.

 

[Merlin007]

Amazing to think Schache is 25 and still on a list, seems so long ago now that we drafted him. Going low in the draft really extends your earning capacity and career length. It is a shame that the Lions had not implemented the draft matrix they have had in place since the year after Schache was drafted. We would never have taken him under our current drafting approach. Goes to show how overrated picks can be sometimes.

If he wasn't able to get a game consistently at the Dogs with their KPP stocks then the end is nigh you would have thought. A token pick should get a deal done.

sounds interesting, can you say more?

 

[BrutThough]

Issue is Schache is only effective as a leading forward in an uncontested situation. In all other circumstances a smart defender will just sag off him.

Late in the season, we had to use an 18 year old mid as a key forward option so any extra options on the list wouldn't hurt. As a free hit, there would be worse options to compete with Hayes and potentially Sharman (played defence late in the year so unsure of his position moving forward) for a spot up forward.

 

[Elixuh]

Late in the season, we had to use an 18 year old mid as a key forward option so any extra options on the list wouldn't hurt. As a free hit, there would be worse options to compete with Hayes and potentially Sharman (played defence late in the year so unsure of his position moving forward) for a spot up forward.

Given where St Kilda's list is at, worth a shot. I just wouldn't go in with any expectations.

 

[Elixuh]

sounds interesting, can you say more?

Nah, just that Schache would have red flagged on enough criteria for us not to take him.

 

[Mofra]

Amazing to think Schache is 25 and still on a list, seems so long ago now that we drafted him. Going low in the draft really extends your earning capacity and career length. It is a shame that the Lions had not implemented the draft matrix they have had in place since the year after Schache was drafted. We would never have taken him under our current drafting approach. Goes to show how overrated picks can be sometimes.

If he wasn't able to get a game consistently at the Dogs with their KPP stocks then the end is nigh you would have thought. A token pick should get a deal done.

Gorringe said in the AFL system if you can't be good, just be tall.

 

[Mofra]

Late in the season, we had to use an 18 year old mid as a key forward option so any extra options on the list wouldn't hurt. As a free hit, there would be worse options to compete with Hayes and potentially Sharman (played defence late in the year so unsure of his position moving forward) for a spot up forward.

If he can run hard and drag a defender away from Max he might be helpful to you. Would cost virtually nothing, has little trade value

 

[bird_man]

Issue is Schache is only effective as a leading forward in an uncontested situation. In all other circumstances a smart defender will just sag off him.

Probably not a mad mix than, if King is playing deep he can play the lead up roll a bit further up the ground.

If he turns out no good we lose nothing I guess.

 

[BigPond101]

I remember he had a very good few months as a defender for the Bulldogs a few years back. As a forward he's a total lost cause

 

[Foxman98]

I remember he had a very good few months as a defender for the Bulldogs a few years back. As a forward he's a total lost cause

Was more a good game against the Dees last year

 

[Northernsoul74]

I remember he had a very good few months as a defender for the Bulldogs a few years back. As a forward he's a total lost cause

Never happened. He had an ok game in defence once. Even in the vfl the defence experiment was underwhelming.