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Apex36 said:
WC making the same mistake that we did, being seduced by his endurance and work ethic without taking in to account he’s incapable of playing attacking football.
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So another Kyle Martin
 
Apex36 said:
WC making the same mistake that we did, being seduced by his endurance and work ethic without taking in to account he’s incapable of playing attacking football.
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He’s really just cheap depth; that’s all they probably doing, getting some cheap conveyance in case required.
I’m sure they know he’s limited; but at least disciplined.
 
TradeDraft said:
So another Kyle Martin
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Kyle wasn’t really keen enough to want to be a league footballer, Smith certainly is keen to be a league player.
 
Love his application, has a serious tank and knows how to get his hands on it. Played his best footy for us early on as a wingman who liked to get forward. Unfortunately, in a team chock full of midfielders we tried to turn him into a backman, which he just wasn't. Wish him all the very best.
 

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I also wish him all the best, but he is depth only.
Does everything the coaches ask and more, but he does need something extra in his game
 
Saintly Viewed said:
Kyle wasn’t really keen enough to want to be a league footballer, Smith certainly is keen to be a league player.
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Different scenario in my opinion. Kyle would rack up possessions galore in the VFL & dominate in the midfield against everyone & anyone.
Then when he finally got his chance it was in a forward pocket in a side that really struggled to kick goals on a good day. He was a midfielder not a forward pocket.
In my opinion Martin was way better than Smith. Didn't have his tank though that's for sure.
 
si tacuisses said:
Kyle Martin just didn't have the drive IMO. Smith is the opposite, all drive but lacks the talent. Good luck to him though, always like seeing those kind of players make it.
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A cross between Kyle Martin and Josh Smith would be interesting...
 
Saintly Viewed said:
A cross between Kyle Martin and Josh Smith would be interesting...
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Wait, does the crossover get the good bits or the bad bits? Because the good bits together we've seen, they get drafted first round... and the bad bits together we've also seen (and sometimes they also get drafted first round, lol).
 
Apex36 said:
WC making the same mistake that we did, being seduced by his endurance and work ethic without taking in to account he’s incapable of playing attacking football.
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It's more than that. Smith suits the WC style of football which is possession based. He has more value to them than us because his playing qualities suit them.
 
si tacuisses said:
Wait, does the crossover get the good bits or the bad bits? Because the good bits together we've seen, they get drafted first round... and the bad bits together we've also seen (and sometimes they also get drafted first round, lol).
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The good bits.

:)


The bad bits... that’s more Carlton reserves level.
 
Quicky said:
It's more than that. Smith suits the WC style of football which is possession based. He has more value to them than us because his playing qualities suit them.
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And ours isn’t? We had the highest disposal numbers in the league last year, about 10% more than WC on average. If holding up play and being so afraid of turning the ball over that you’re incapable of kicking forwards suits WC game style I’ll eat my hat.
 

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Apex36 said:
And ours isn’t? We had the highest disposal numbers in the league last year, about 10% more than WC on average. If holding up play and being so afraid of turning the ball over that you’re incapable of kicking forwards suits WC game style I’ll eat my hat.
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Very different for them. They actually have key forwards. They'd hold, hold, hold then go very direct. I think Josh Smith makes a lot of sense for West Coast and is more likely to have a role than with us.
 
Prior to the draft I was worried that giving up pick 57 for the Beams deal was going to affect our ability to match for Quaynor and Kelly without going into deficit.

Given Brisbane's list manager said they feel their list is at a point where they want players over draft picks, I wonder if we should have offered up Smith given he is a Queenslander, over pick 57? I'd say he's about worth a pick 57 anyway.

Obviously it doesn't matter because we ended up matching without going into deficit, but had we kept pick 57 we would have had a few extra points after matching that we could have considered someone a bit higher than Atu. But of course that's not to say Atu is necessarily a bad choice at all, just seems more speculative at that end of the draft.
 
Pragmatic Shill said:
Prior to the draft I was worried that giving up pick 57 for the Beams deal was going to affect our ability to match for Quaynor and Kelly without going into deficit.

Given Brisbane's list manager said they feel their list is at a point where they want players over draft picks, I wonder if we should have offered up Smith given he is a Queenslander, over pick 57? I'd say he's about worth a pick 57 anyway.

Obviously it doesn't matter because we ended up matching without going into deficit, but had we kept pick 57 we would have had a few extra points after matching that we could have considered someone a bit higher than Atu. But of course that's not to say Atu is necessarily a bad choice at all, just seems more speculative at that end of the draft.
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I assume he meant good players.
 
Pragmatic Shill said:
Sure, but I would have thought Smith would fit into the high pressure gameplan Brisbane is developing. But I don't really know how Noah Answerth played in draft footy.
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High pressure is the exact style Smith doesn’t fit in. He’s slow and has no defensive nouse or hardness. In saying that I don’t think they’re are any game styles that suit Smith anyways.
 

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Pragmatic Shill said:
Prior to the draft I was worried that giving up pick 57 for the Beams deal was going to affect our ability to match for Quaynor and Kelly without going into deficit.

Given Brisbane's list manager said they feel their list is at a point where they want players over draft picks, I wonder if we should have offered up Smith given he is a Queenslander, over pick 57? I'd say he's about worth a pick 57 anyway.

Obviously it doesn't matter because we ended up matching without going into deficit, but had we kept pick 57 we would have had a few extra points after matching that we could have considered someone a bit higher than Atu. But of course that's not to say Atu is necessarily a bad choice at all, just seems more speculative at that end of the draft.
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I think by that point in the trade period, Brisbane pretty much conceeded it was too late to get a player considering they would have to consent and then go through medicals etc. In any case, Josh got to where he wanted, Brisbane got what they wanted, and so did we.
 
Jen2310 said:
I think by that point in the trade period, Brisbane pretty much conceeded it was too late to get a player considering they would have to consent and then go through medicals etc. In any case, Josh got to where he wanted, Brisbane got what they wanted, and so did we.
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True point Jen, although the only thing I would say is I don't think Josh really wanted to go the Eagles as such.
 
Pragmatic Shill said:
True point Jen, although the only thing I would say is I don't think Josh really wanted to go the Eagles as such.
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Where do you think he wanted to go? I actually thought he was going to sign with Gold Coast. He did fly over there and did a medical, so this WC did throw me a bit. He probably didn't care at that point. As a delisted footballer, you're looking for any opportunity no matter where it is.
 

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