Judd

[grenwolf2684]

You can only afford to have one Marque player on your list such as Brown, Tredrea, Riewoldt commands 600,000 + a year.

Geelong will have to pay about 600,000 Hawkins that in a few years.

They will have to pay Nathan Ablett about 400,000.

They are going to be the two we built the team around, club, marketing.

To have Chris Judd would take one million. We don't have the room.

Neither do St Kilda with Riewoldt.

Port Adelaide with Tredrea.

Western Bulldogs would have got themselves in tight with money with after Akermanis.

Hawthorn will need to pay Franklin 500,000+ in time.

Carlton with Fevola. Murphy and Gibbs will grow to command 400,000+

Richmond have spent to much for Nathan Brown, Simmonds, etc to have room.

Essendon have Loyd and Lucas who would both command large figures.

Clubs that don't have a marque player and have money are the only ones who will get him.

Collingwood with no big player who commands huge money with Nathan Buckley leaving.

Melbourne with no huge player commanding that money.

Kangaroos with no huge play commanding that money.

Unless Judd takes a massive drop from that one million.

Those three clubs are the only Melbourne clubs who can realistically play in a bidding war.

 

[bashar]

you guys are forgetting he is the best midfielder in the comp...and probably the best midfielder of all time. prem captain, brownlow, and all those lovely things he can put on his cv...
if he wants to come to geelong he is welcome. 1st, 2nd, and joel corey is fair trade. otherwise wegles would get nothing and lose him in the pre season for nothing.
if he wants to come back to victoria...i have a feeling a victorian side is going to win the spoon so that might scare westcoast just a tad bit and they will be willing to compromise.
and about the cash. well u take out king (iether we trade him or delist)
and corey's salary+what ever cash we have on reserve and what do you know . there are overpaid players at the club...they iether take a pay cut or its the high road...
im thinking of u kelly, king and ling lol.
btw players want premierships not money. theyd back down from outragiouse wage demands if they know there getting a solid contributer in the form of judd.
midfield would own
we already have the youngest and argubly the best forward line hehe (its my opinion and im sticking to it)
and our defence isnt what you would call weak. and we have decent ruckmen and good depth...what do you know premiership team on the horrizon

 

[patdman]

and probably the best midfielder of all time

ahhhh no but just like you his manager and the WC will try and tell you that. You could even argue that he isnt the best one on that team.

Kerr
Cousins (pre recent events)

 

[bashar]

unlike those 2 judd is the only one who doesnt have off field issues....i know which one would be good for our locker room. do you?

 

[linelefty]

Jst thought I'd give my 2bobs worth from a West Aussie Cats supporters p.o.v.

I think Judd will go at the end of the year. There's a clear motivation for players to sign contracts asap so they can concentrate on the season ahead so why not Judd?

Despite the fact that he's a gun, there isn't the hero worship over here that was experienced in the days of Turley, Mainwaring, Jacko, Woosha etc. Judd doesnt have much of a personality and his aloofness doesnt really endear him to the public as much as some of the nicer guys at WCE like.....hang on there isnt one (chicky?), anyway the point still stands

The off field behaviour off his mates must be gettign to him and the pull of moving home would be pretty strong.

 

[linelefty]

In other news, I know the eagles pretty well, lets look at their needs and wether we can fill 'em. ITs not just about what we'd offer its about any gaps or weaknesses in their team that they need to fill. And lets face it there aint many.

Big Forwards
They have pinch hitters like Staker/Hansen/Embley but Lynch is the only true FF. So they may ask for Hawkins/NAbblet. They could do with a good CHF but Mitch Brown looks promising.

Little ForwardsArmstrong and Sampi are OK but I think they'd be looking at a Varcoe to replace Sampi.

Midfielders
They don't have an absolute speedster in the class of Deledio, Brett Peake, Monica or Davey. So I reckon they'd look at Woji. Goal kicking middies, Chappy and Abblett would also be pretty attractive as Braun, Cuz. Kerr and co. dont kick as many goals as they'd like.

Big Defenders
Glass, Hunter, Graham, Brett Jones plus flexibility with Staker. No go here

Little Defenders
Wirra is getting on, they may look for a young player with potential to be replace him as the sweeper/loose man? Could that be Prismall? Corey does a good job but is he young enough?

Ruckmen
Seaby and Cox are still pretty youngish, and they have Spaanderman in the wings.

From this analysis, I think the players they would be interested in would be interested in would be Hawkins, NAbblet, Monica, Varcoe, Prismall, Chapman and/or Gary Jnr. Throw in a couple of those plus 1s rnd draft picks and you might have a deal.

 

[Rockford]

In other news, I know the eagles pretty well, lets look at their needs and wether we can fill 'em. ITs not just about what we'd offer its about any gaps or weaknesses in their team that they need to fill. And lets face it there aint many.

Big Forwards
They have pinch hitters like Staker/Hansen/Embley but Lynch is the only true FF. So they may ask for Hawkins/NAbblet. They could do with a good CHF but Mitch Brown looks promising.

Little ForwardsArmstrong and Sampi are OK but I think they'd be looking at a Varcoe to replace Sampi.

Midfielders
They don't have an absolute speedster in the class of Deledio, Brett Peake, Monica or Davey. So I reckon they'd look at Woji. Goal kicking middies, Chappy and Abblett would also be pretty attractive as Braun, Cuz. Kerr and co. dont kick as many goals as they'd like.

Big Defenders
Glass, Hunter, Graham, Brett Jones plus flexibility with Staker. No go here

Little Defenders
Wirra is getting on, they may look for a young player with potential to be replace him as the sweeper/loose man? Could that be Prismall? Corey does a good job but is he young enough?

Ruckmen
Seaby and Cox are still pretty youngish, and they have Spaanderman in the wings.

From this analysis, I think the players they would be interested in would be interested in would be Hawkins, NAbblet, Monica, Varcoe, Prismall, Chapman and/or Gary Jnr. Throw in a couple of those plus 1s rnd draft picks and you might have a deal.

I wouldn't want to see Hawkins, Nath, Chapman or Gary go anywhere.

Maybe SJ will have a resurgent season, stay fit and they'd consider him as a small forward option to replace Sampi? I could live with Corey + SJ + picks.

 

[bashar]

they can have varco, and joel corey with a second round draft pick...its not highway robbery ppl.
if he wants us they have to come to the table and thats that or else they would lose him for nothing.
he would want to come to a successful club and looking at it geelong, bulldogs, and the saints are the strongest vic sides. then you look at the hawks, essendon, and carlton who are on the up.
but were in a good chance. we can trade good players and we would be interested.
the hawks would be a danger if they had hodge, judd, and franklin thats pretty devistating. not to mention all thier other young talents.

 

[Rockford]

they can have varco, and joel corey with a second round draft pick...its not highway robbery ppl.
if he wants us they have to come to the table and thats that or else they would lose him for nothing.
he would want to come to a successful club and looking at it geelong, bulldogs, and the saints are the strongest vic sides. then you look at the hawks, essendon, and carlton who are on the up.
but were in a good chance. we can trade good players and we would be interested.
the hawks would be a danger if they had hodge, judd, and franklin thats pretty devistating. not to mention all thier other young talents.

I'm sure we'd jump at Varcoe, Corey and a 2nd round pick for Judd but I have doubts that would be enough. Also, Melbourne are the club that Judd supported as a kid, they're not a bad side either and that may be his first choice if he was to come back to Victoria.

 

[linelefty]

Davey + Bate for Judd? Plus why not throw in Moloney for a bit of a sweetner...

 

[Rockford]

Davey + Bate for Judd? Plus why not throw in Moloney for a bit of a sweetner...

Would be interesting to know how Demon supporters would feel about that trade? If I were a Dees supporter I'd be more than happy with it, and it looks like the sort of things that West Coast may go for? Fills some holes for them.

 

[RememberMe]

Bate is shit. I'd rather have Mackie on my team than Bate.

 

[Tonycam*]

Joel Corey would absolutely hate to go to the eagles. Thats his pet hate team in the afl because they over looked him. He would be p'off badly if it happened. Not that he would have a say in it.

 

[linelefty]

Really? They overlooked him? He is a sandgroper isnt he....Why has his name been mentioned so much, do we think he's expendable?

Another factor would be who's getting the top 2 draft picks this year. One of the more successful vic clubs might trade away players to get the 1st pick and then forward it on.

So lets assume the Kangas get it, then we could muse over the permuations of use sending players to the roos to get that pick....

 

[Mooney_d'King]

WHY TRADING FOR JUDD COULD BE VERY STUPID

1. THE RICHMOND/ROOS SCENARIO
What if the rest of your team's a bit crap - you give away two of your better players, 1 or 2 top draft picks then the guy's expected to lift the team all by himself? You've got no more depth left in your side? The guy goes down injured, which WILL happen again one day and you're up shit creek again with only crap players remaining?

2. THE FREO/ESSENDON/PIES ETC SCENARIO
What if you've got a good team, take a punt on Judd being able to win you a premiership, pay through the nose for him and you end up gambling your future away when you don't win a flag after all?

I'm sure there are other similar scenarios but I can't think of any.

PLUS, West Coast wouldn't take any rubbish players. IMO, the only way a trade for Judd would be equitable for ALL parties would be ONE good player and ONE good (round 1) draft pick, maximum. Anything more than that would not be worth it, even for Judd.

Teams that would benefit most from having Judd need good depth, KPPs forward and back or good youth already and would probably be Hawthorn, Geelong, Essendon and maybe Melbourne, St Kilda, Adelaide, Port Adelaide, or the Lions.

Judd barracked for Melbourne as a kid, so it seems most likely to me that he would consider Melbourne above all the others, but I don't think they've got a premiership window opening up. I doubt he'd stay in Perth, I doubt he'd go to Adelaide, Sydney or Brisbane given that he's a Melbourne boy.

 

[brid]

what about wat happend at the lions? ino its a completly different player and age. But Jason Akermanis was a gun at brisbane and we got nothing for him, he won a brownlow, woulda been second in a normsmith, and won 3 premierships. And we got some terrible draft pick.

ino this is an unreasonable comparrison but it just shows you, when a player wants to leave and doesnt have any intention in staying at the club. The club holding player doesnt have much option

 

[Higgo]

How about we get rid of bomber... and take on Judd as a captain/coach... This way we can pay him $250000 as a player and $750000 as a coach. Salary Cap issue solved

 

[martyk]

what about wat happend at the lions? ino its a completly different player and age. But Jason Akermanis was a gun at brisbane and we got nothing for him, he won a brownlow, woulda been second in a normsmith, and won 3 premierships. And we got some terrible draft pick.

ino this is an unreasonable comparrison but it just shows you, when a player wants to leave and doesnt have any intention in staying at the club. The club holding player doesnt have much option

Very good point... Although the demand for Judd would be far higher than that of Akermains due to the age difference. If Judd wanted to leave, I'm sure every club in the league would make an offer.

 

[finrod]

How about we get rid of bomber... and take on Judd as a captain/coach... This way we can pay him $250000 as a player and $750000 as a coach. Salary Cap issue solved

The Natural makes a better captain/coach and costs less.