Rumour JUH

[Johnny_Dogg4]

Sydney were crap. Umpires were terrible. Doggies were good. It's not a game I've ever bitched about. Every team gets a massive ride every now and again.

watching it from an unbiased view, dogs totally owned the swans, the swans defenders kept them in the game for so long before they collapsed. dogs prob should've won by 50 IMO. Kennedy kept them in it also
with regards to the Umps, ive looked at it, the free kick count was maybe a tad biased towards the dogs, however i didn't really see any unpaid frees the swans didnt get. the umps prob could've thrown in some cheap frees in the first half

 

[iameviljez]

Hey sunshine, To get there we knocked off the previous years premier and runners up by 70 points combined in consecutive weeks.

Woah massive ride indeed..

As in armchair ride from the umpires in the GF. Which you did get

 

[Mofra]

Gadubanaud.
For the past 65 years we have 100% been taught to express the word Koori.
But you go which ever way YOU want.
Not getting into semantics with somebody as intelligent as your good self.
Let's not ruin a top class thread

Mate, do you know who you're posting to?

 

[South of the Yarra]

I feel sorry for the kid, hope he gets help and takes it.

A few observations, just my POV, and I respect a lot if the various views expressed.

An apology is an action (it means a defence but its mutated i to meaning an explanation, and from that asking forgiveness).

Virtue signalling can be right wing ot racist as well as left wing or "woke" (depends on what virtue you are trying to signal: virtue conefrom m PIE "*vir" meaning a man).

Some indigenous people like their specific nation or tribal or mob name eg Koori or Woiwurrung, some like Black (or blak), some like Aboriginal person. All Aussies are different.


Let's give Murdoch some credit here.

Sir Keith used to go after ze Jews too (eg Sir John Monash, probably our finest soldier, coz his parents were German Jews who converted to CoE) but Rupert doesnt.

So theyre slowly improving: at this rate the Murdoch press will be bigotry free in about 6 generations.

It would be unfair on Asians and Africans if Rupert stopped being racist just to Indigenous people.

Koori / Koorie is not a tribal or mob name, it is a regional name for most of Victoria and Southern NSW. Just like Yolngu, Murri or Noongar. Every Aboriginal I know refers to themselves as Aboriginal in the general sense for example ‘I am a proud Aboriginal’ and their mob name in the specific sense for example ‘Adam Goodes is from Adnyamathanha and Narungga country.

 

[craffles]

You mean to tell me there is no truth to the random screenshot of a forwarded WhatsApp message?

The safest path is to assume any random screenshot 100% fact is true but verify with the person included in said malicious rumour, only after posting on BigFooty.

Hope this helps.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Mate, do you know who you're posting to?

Don't know don't care.
Just stating facts.
When Governer Latrobe stood on OUR border his Koori guides said "we don't go in there without permission as they are the meanest and richest of all tribes".

 

[Mofra]

Don't know don't care.
Just stating facts.
When Governer Latrobe stood on OUR border his Koori guides said "we don't go in there without permission as they are the meanest and richest of all tribes".

I just did it a little amusing to lecture an Aboriginal on how they should address themselves. That's all.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

I just did it a little amusing to lecture an Aboriginal on how they should address themselves. That's all.

Some "people " understand culture.
Some hope they do.
This thread is NOT the place.
Fanks for the advice mum.

 

[Mofra]

Some "people " understand culture.
Some hope they do.
This thread is NOT the place.
Fanks for the advice mum.

I'm not providing advice.
It's pertinent given since little have linked JUH's identity to his current issues.

I'm hoping for an redemption story, the AFL is full of them. Jesse Hogan an positive recent example.

 

[Cyclops]

Koori / Koorie is not a tribal or mob name, it is a regional name for most of Victoria and Southern NSW. Just like Yolngu, Murri or Noongar. Every Aboriginal I know refers to themselves as Aboriginal in the general sense for example ‘I am a proud Aboriginal’ and their mob name in the specific sense for example ‘Adam Goodes is from Adnyamathanha and Narungga country.

Thanks for the correction.

When I was at Uni (many years ago) a lot of white people used to jump on each other if they said "Aboriginal" because that's an adjective, "you have to say aboriginal person". Indigenous people I have met call themselves "blackfella" or "indigenous" or the specific group names.

So there's things I learned years ago some of which are wrong, and some of which have changed. Good to learn a bit more, thx.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Don't know don't care.
Just stating facts.
When Governer Latrobe stood on OUR border his Koori guides said "we don't go in there without permission as they are the meanest and richest of all tribes".

Not facts at all.
Can I assume by the fact you ignored my post that you are not mob? If so what you were taught in schools and what we are taught in mobs is very different. The Elders of the Gadubanaud people who I know well refer to themselves as Aboriginal, their land council is referred to as Aboriginal and their Board of Control is also Aboriginal.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Not facts at all.
Can I assume by the fact you ignored my post that you are not mob? If so what you were taught in schools and what we are taught in mobs is very different. The Elders of the Gadubanaud people who I know well refer to themselves as Aboriginal, their land council is referred to as Aboriginal and their Board of Control is also Aboriginal.

Don't assume big fella.
I too have family AND very close ties with leadership as I've mentored in the bush for many years down here.
As I've mentioned a few times, this isn't the forum for this discussion.
OUR leadership is mighty fine with our take on history

 

[craffles]

I'm not providing advice.
It's pertinent given since little have linked JUH's identity to his current issues.

I'm hoping for an redemption story, the AFL is full of them. Jesse Hogan an positive recent example.

This is an interesting post. I think a lot of people, myself included have forgotten just how hard JUH’s childhood was.

 

[BillyElliott]

This is an interesting post. I think a lot of people, myself included have forgotten just how hard JUH’s childhood was.

Everything I've read about JUH's childhood has been positive. He always talks about how much he loved it & where he grew up.

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan - Whitten Oval Online Forum

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www.woof.net.au

 

[Tugga27]

Massive ride outplaying them for most of the game lol

I didn't have a dog in the game like you, but I reckon most neutrals thought Sydney got slaughtered by the umpires.
20 free kicks to 8.

It's pretty rare for the AFL to put out a press release criticizing the umpires.

 

[Tugga27]

watching it from an unbiased view, dogs totally owned the swans, the swans defenders kept them in the game for so long before they collapsed. dogs prob should've won by 50 IMO. Kennedy kept them in it also
with regards to the Umps, ive looked at it, the free kick count was maybe a tad biased towards the dogs, however i didn't really see any unpaid frees the swans didnt get. the umps prob could've thrown in some cheap frees in the first half

How can you watch it from an "unbiased view" as a Dog supporter?

 

[craffles]

Everything I've read about JUH's childhood has been positive. He always talks about how much he loved it & where he grew up.

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan - Whitten Oval Online Forum

<b><font color=Teal>Past and present news articles </b></font>

www.woof.net.au

He may have loved it, but he lived a very, very different lifestyle to what the average AFL player did as a child and is a very different person for it.

When you’re playing footy in either no shoes or your mums runners as a teenager but then all of a sudden have $100K in the bank and people worshipping you it’s a very sudden and swift change and a lot to deal with.

 

[BillyElliott]

He may have loved it, but he lived a very, very different lifestyle to what the average AFL player did as a child and is a very different person for it.

When you’re playing footy in either no shoes or your mums runners as a teenager but then all of a sudden have $100K in the bank and people worshipping you it’s a very sudden and swift change and a lot to deal with.

Of course, it's different. That's undeniable. As it would be for a lot kids who grow up in different environments.

But he hasn't specifically said his childhood was difficult or hard. It was his norm & he loved his community, childhood & upbringing. It may appear hard to others, but he hasn't said it was.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

This is an interesting post. I think a lot of people, myself included have forgotten just how hard JUH’s childhood was.

I see your point but IMO tough childhood or not doesn't excuse the behavior. He isn't a kid anymore; he is an adult. I highly doubt the doggies aren't pouring support onto him, he has been in their system a long time now. Sooner or later, he needs to grow up and act like an adult, its his choice to make. If he can't, he will just be another "could of been" story.

Plenty of people have shit upbringings, isn't mutually exclusive to aboriginal kids.

These guys are in a system where they have all the support in the world and get paid hundreds of thousands to kick a ball.

Reality needs to come to the forefront. I hope for JUH sake, he can get better people in his life to move him forward, rather than hold him back. We all have dickheads in our life that at a certain point we need decide to move away from.

Ultimately it's his choice. No one elses.

 

[BillyElliott]

I see your point but IMO tough childhood or not doesn't excuse the behavior. He isn't a kid anymore; he is an adult. I highly doubt the doggies aren't pouring support onto him. Sooner or later, he needs to grow up.

Plenty of people have shit upbringings, isn't mutually exclusive to aboriginal kids.

These guys are in a system where they have all the support in the world and get paid hundreds of thousands to kick a ball. Reality needs to come to the forefront.

To be clear, JUH has never said he had a tough or shit childhood. It seems to be some other people's projections of what they perceive to be difficult.

He's always said he loved his childhood, upbringing & community.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

To be clear, JUH has never said he had a tough or shit childhood. It seems to be some other people's projections of what they perceive to be difficult.

He's always said he loved his childhood, upbringing & community.

Well, that's just even more perplexing if it's true.

In either case JUH clearly has people in his life who are holding him back. The same choice remains whether he had a good or a shit upbringing.

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

Goodness.
Media buffoons get their leaks from somewhere, it aint the player.

Coach and Captain mentioned, Lobb mentioned.

but hey, clubs not leaking their desires to rid them of said player.

Nothing to see here guys.

Oh please......

Spot on... just like the Lions leaking last year that it was Charlie Cameron causing discontent amongst the playing group.
After all th media get their leaks from somewhere....

 

[campbell]

Spot on... just like the Lions leaking last year that it was Charlie Cameron causing discontent amongst the playing group.
After all th media get their leaks from somewhere....

Get it right, it was Charlies missus, who read the whats app stuff...........
and it wasnt the club, it was familial. ie ex gf of said naughty player.

 

[craffles]

I don’t think people are understanding that just because he enjoyed his childhood doesn’t mean the adjustment period to a young adult, in the spotlight and with money is easy from his background.

Kids in the system from private schools and affluent backgrounds with good educations adjust much easier because of their upbringing. The enjoying childhood and his childhood shaping how he transitions into adulthood aren’t mutually exclusive.

 

[South of the Yarra]

He may have loved his childhood but he would also have been exposed to many things that most other young footballers did not have to experience. He was surrounded by inter generational trauma and the issues that surface due to that. Is he the only one, no, but the adjustment he had to make coming to Melbourne would have been enormous. The kid has lived things many others didn’t. Same as I said for Clayton Oliver. Stop and think for a minute and maybe have some empathy instead of sharpening the boots and sinking them in.