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Unsolved Julie Cutler - Murder - 1988 - Cottesloe WA

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  1. Dan Baker

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    Julie Leanne CUTLER
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    Age at time of disappearance: 22 years
    Build: Medium
    Height: 162 cm
    Hair: Brown
    Eyes: Blue

    Julie was last seen leaving the Parmelia Hilton Hotel WA at 12.30am on 20 June 1988 after a staff function. Her car was found 2 days later in the sea off Cottesloe Beach.

    http://www.australianmissingpersonsregister.com/JulieCutler.htm
     
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    Police ruled out suicide because Ms Cutler’s body would have been washed ashore if she had driven the car into the surf.

    A year later, a white Parmelia Hilton uniform blouse was handed in to police.

    The blouse was a size 14 — Ms Cutler’s size — and was one of 37 made exclusively for the hotel’s staff.

    It had been found about the time Ms Cutler went missing with a pair of black pantyhose in a plastic bag under a table at the King Kebab takeaway in Centreway Arcade, Perth, a five-minute walk from the Parmelia Hilton.

    Police said Ms Cutler was believed to have been carrying the bag after changing into a black evening dress.

    http://www.news.com.au/news/vanishe...g/news-story/1f9da6564bf58fdfb6f6532c5e7b5d2f
     
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    The 22-year-old former theatre student at the West Australian Institute of Technology, now Curtin University, had found work at the Parmelia Hilton Hotel in Perth’s CBD.

    In late May or early June, Julie rang her father to report an alarming incident in which she had been driving home in her Fiat sedan from work along the Stirling Highway.

    Julie told her father, Roger, that a car had followed her closely for several kilometres along Stirling Highway, almost touching her rear bumper at times and seemed to be trying to force her off the road.

    As she approached a turn-off in the beachside suburb of Cottesloe, the car pulled alongside and then suddenly veered in front of her.

    Ms Cutler swerved around it and sped away, later reporting the incident to police.

    As her stepsister related, years later, she called “extremely upset. She thought whoever was in the car wanted to run her off the road or force her to pull over.”
    http://www.news.com.au/news/vanishe...g/news-story/1f9da6564bf58fdfb6f6532c5e7b5d2f
     
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    Wondering why there wasn't a Coroner's Inquest for Julie Cutler's disappearance but there was for Robyn Santen.
     
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    So Curtain University aka WAIT, is on Kent st. The same street 'name' Gerard Ross was abducted from in Rockingham. He was not sexually assaulted, just strangulated, and someone online speculated bashing, left in pines near KARNUP?

    Curtin is also on Dumas Road
     
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    I dare as stated above, Julie Cutlers case is considered not suicide. Robyn Santens case was suspected suicide by the Coronal office given her mental health.

    But when you consider the number of mentally ill, many people are mentally ill. The police don't have a body, but it is highly suspected Robyn Paton committed suicide.With the coronal inquest, they have come to the conclusion that the likely outcome is suicide.

    What they are saying, is it is almost certain Robyn is dead.

    How do they know Robyn entered the water?

    http://www.coronerscourt.wa.gov.au/...yn_louise_santen.aspx?uid=5721-5789-0451-4615
    The Coroner found that the death of the deceased has been proved beyond all reasonable doubt. The Coroner concluded that the deceased entered the water at City Beach but it was not possible to find whether the deceased drowned, was taken by a marine predator or died from some other cause. The Coroner could not be satisfied to any degree of certainty of the deceased’s intention when she entered the water or thereafter and made an open finding as to how death occurred.
    Catch Words : Mental Health : Marital Breakdown : Missing Person : Open Finding
     
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    Depression and anxiety affect over one third of the population, it's so common in fact I'm baffled why there is still a stigma attached to it.

    Not ever likely to get any answers on this one considering the coroner's findings. No sign of criminal inteference he said but that doesn't mean there wasn't. No evidence either that Robyn Santen was actually the person who sent the "F*** you" text message to her husband when earlier text messages as far as I know were quite friendly. And no body.

    Nowhere though to go with this now unless something or someone else comes forward with new information.
     
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    Where did JC live at the time of her disappearance?
     
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    Fremantle somewhere according the media. Hence, she was once stalked down Stirling highway attempted run off road. Then later her car was found Cottesloe.

    Pure speculation, but I think someone did the deed, then a day later took the car to Cottesloe beach. It was close proximity to somewhere they could go, whether that be park a car, or stay etc.

    The sand appears to bank up against the wall edge and Cott Surf Life Saving Club would need get vehicles on the beach. No chains in those days across driveways. No need.
    You would presume though that someone might have that in their mindset to drive the car down the beach. Someone with a bit of surf lifesaving experience?

    Ms Cutler lived in Fremantle and visited Claremont regularly with ...


    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...d/news-story/a5c5df3fe4c2cab88bfab42344cef211

    Ms Cutler’s sister wants three parts of her sister’s disappearance reinvestigated — a break-in at her Fremantle home shortly before she disappeared, her complaint a man had tried to force her car off Stirling Highway and a question of whether she made it home the night she disappeared because her wallet was found at her house.

    https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/julies-father-wants-an-end-to-familys-pain-ng-b88342268z

    Corryn RAYNEY was in the throws of divorce with her husband and Corryn didn't commit suicide.

    Corryns burial place of Kings Park was somewhat premeditated me thinks. Lovekin Drive it was. Who does like random, Ill drive into town and bury a body? Digging through the roots in Kings Park was a large gamble.
    The thought you could drive into Kings Park, smash over a bollard, dig a hole big enough for a body without hitting tree roots at a random spot is luck.
    Would need a long handled shovel to get the hole deep enough without having to climb in. But the hole looks like it was dug with long handled shovel.

    It must have taken an hour to dig, pending no roots were hit.

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    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/was-trial-of-the-century/news-story/80eed32ba2eb31ae03e8c7add1bf5ed3
     
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    Freo. Any idea where in Freo she lived?

    She leaves the Parmelia Hotel in a black dress?

    Why? Where was she going and with whom?

    How does her wallet mysteriously get back to her Freo place?

    Question after question.
     
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    "I am a Count, not a Saint"
    Alexandre Dumas
     
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    Wish I knew, as above is about as far as we have got. No one has the address of Julie.

    Julie attended the staff party in a black evening gown media said. Police want to speak to a man and a woman who left behind Julie from the Parmelia hotel 'staff' party that no one knows.

    So, if a bag was left at "King Kebabs", then Julie must have worked at the Parmelia, then changed into the black ball gown, as stated by media, then gone to the Parmelia staff party.

    There have been 'unconfirmed' rumours that Julie went to the Racquet Club after. But none of these rumours are confirmed by police.

    Dumas House

     
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    Dodgy end of town that.

    Not far away either, as the crow flies :rainbow:
     
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    Superintendent Ron Carey, who investigated the case, said the back seat of the car had been washed out of the vehicle and was found on a nearby beach.

    "If the back seat could wash out why didn't Julie's body if she was in the car? Why didn't her shoes, handbag or some other item of property wash up?" he said while being interviewed for the Channel Nine documentary "To Catch a Killer" ten years ago.

    "I believe she was never in the car when it went off Cottesloe Groyne. I believe that Julie was murdered and that the body was buried or secreted somewhere else before the car was dumped in the ocean."

    Claremont charges bring hope and fears for families of missing and murdered
    December 31 2016

    http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/c...-of-missing-and-murdered-20161231-gtk9el.html
     
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    Better throw in bipolar, schizophrenia, paranoia and megalomania as well.

    Just to complete the clinical set.

    Gray lands - yikes!
     
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    Fruit knife comes to mind :huh:
     
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    Concur :thumbsu:
     
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    Ill have a look tomorrow
     
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    There is nothing in the media showing Kerrys discovery location.

    Only behind a log in a picnic area in Canning Dam somewhere. Havent time to look right now. You could probably find a couple of likely spots based on that.
     
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    Shame information is so thin going back that far, I'd like to know what personal items of Kerry Turner were missing but can't find anything. Corryn Rayney as well, do you recall seeing anything about what was taken from her in personal items? Money, jewellery, anything?
     
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    There appears no information regarding personal items missing. I'm concerned Kerry may have something to do with his brother who was injected with a cocktail of drugs. Heroin overdose? Someone went to prison for it. It was Kerrys 18th birthday celebration pretty much.
     
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    Bit of a cluster in that area it appears.

    Kerryn Tate in 1979 comes to mind.

    Boulder Rock - Karragullen.

    How was she identified?

    Pauline Walter in 1980 - Forestdale

    Barbara Western in 1986 - Karragullen

    KT in 1991 - Canning Dam

    Deb Anderson in 2000 - Middle Swan

    Darylyn Ugle in 2003 - Mundaring Weir

    Some speculation floating around online in the past regarding Hovea, Mount Helena, Mundaring and Parkerville :rolleyes:

    A cluster there too perhaps.

    Fibbers and sinners.

    Know who to ask?

    #immediategoals #kumbaya #boom
     
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    Yeah, so who is the other operator? They must have DNA off Kerry Turner? No DNA? Interesting
     
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    If I recall correctly there was some retired old sad campaigner mouthing off on the now closed Australian blog about how intelligent he was and referred to Annette Deverall and Lisa Mott which were South -West.

    Didn't seem real clever at the time nor since.

    Not sure why that blog got pulled offline and hard to recollect the detail fully now but I'm sure it was done for the right reasons.

    When I read it when available online it seemed SAF - as much as the Dr P stuff.

    And when I say campaigner, a real true blue campaigner in every sense of the word.

    Again, if I recall correctly, some of what he was on about is in the DM book.

    With the passage of time and new information wonder if that is relevant now?
     
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    I wonder if Julie Cutler being a hospitality worker ever worked at the Blue Duck?

    Maybe one day we will hear about the victims backgrounds, which we know absolutely nothing about.

    There is another ramp there to enter the beach, which enable driving down the beach into the water , or off a reef ledge, into the water.
     
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