Current Julie Cutler - Murder - 1988 - Cottesloe WA

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And co-incidentally he also died in prison of a "heart attack" just like the head of the Mr Asia syndicate did in 1983.

Not suggesting Julie Cutler had anything to do with heroin or drugs, but you had credible evidence cops in high positions were allowing the importation and distribution and laundering of money from it. Allegedly they had the expertise of a Mr Asia kingpin sourcing and supplying the drug.

If they needed someone who was about to testify against them eliminated you'd imagine that in return any crimes including murders and many missing woman that could be attributed to that particular group, would be conveniently unsolved or someone set up to be a patsy.
 

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Part of a statement from a police whistle blower to WA Parliament about police corruption including in 1988, below. Alledges that this only non NZ member of Mr Asia Syndicate was able to move large quantities of heroin from the Eastern States to WA.

Most likely this is Choo Cheng Kui (“Chinese Jack”), who spent 7 years imprisoned for his involvement supplying heroin to the Mr Asia syndicate. Was he was involved in the Hawaiian Group?

Vanessa Devlin who was murdered in June 1988 after being caught by Federal Police for trafficking heroin with her boyfriend from the Eastern States and possibly about to name names in her upcoming Court appearance may have silenced and possibly more to do with Julie Cutler than Dorothy imo.

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Don Hancock & his bestie Tony spring to mind
 

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petedavo Did Julie Cutler see happenings at Parmelia Hotel, or did one the rellies burn someone high up in state government over nickel?

Fancy Bob Hawke dropping gold tax in 1987. Cutler in gold town.

Did Julie Cutler know too much?
 
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Its not the Sharon Mason thread

Yes the topic might share some commonalities but unless you can directly pinpoint any such practices then its moving off topic
Iknow, I meant the dirty ex commissioner & his right hand man being connected to a drug ring that could have seen Julie be murdered over. Nothing to do with Sharon Mason
 

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If it was anything like that I think they would have been caught or a ransom demand, something.

Do you know how many staff work in those places? Hundreds. Most big hotels have shady things going on in them, it would have to be a first where wait staff or a housemaid was kidnapped and murdered because she knew too much. Even if someone at her young age knew too much she probably wouldn't even know she knew too much and if she did, what to do with it.

The most likely explanation imo is that she was the victim of a sex predator or she accidentally overdosed and died in another small motel or in the car with someone who then panicked.
 

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If it was anything like that I think they would have been caught or a ransom demand, something.

Do you know how many staff work in those places? Hundreds. Most big hotels have shady things going on in them, it would have to be a first where wait staff or a housemaid was kidnapped and murdered because she knew too much. Even if someone at her young age knew too much she probably wouldn't even know she knew too much and if she did, what to do with it.

The most likely explanation imo is that she was the victim of a sex predator or she accidentally overdosed and died in another small motel or in the car with someone who then panicked.
I don't think it is ransom at all. Some businessmen might have lost a lot of money.

I think it could have been a punishment. A hitman sent to kill her, and taunt family.
 

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petedavo Did Julie Cutler see happenings at Parmelia Hotel, or did one the rellies burn someone high up in state government over nickel?

Fancy Bob Hawke dropping gold tax in 1987. Cutler in gold town.

Did Julie Cutler know too much?
Haven't considered anything like this myself. I was only looking for scenarios that fits all of the weird events surrounding the case. This Biro throws a different slant, but I need to confirm the provenance of the biro origins first.

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Haven't considered anything like this myself. I was only looking for scenarios that fits all of the weird events surrounding the case. This Biro throws a different slant, but I need to confirm the provenance of the biro origins first.
The champagne flutes, the diary, the pen. Were they all gifts from the hotel to staff at the staff party?

Deborah Anderson was also in catering. Julies car in the ocean, Deborahs car set on fire.
 

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The champagne flutes, the diary, the pen. Were they all gifts from the hotel to staff at the staff party?

Deborah Anderson was also in catering. Julies car in the ocean, Deborahs car set on fire.
If all the events surrounding Julie's case are directly linked to her disappearance, then her case is sufficiently different to any other known disappearance or murder to be able to confidently assume that they are entirely unrelated.
The only other crimes that I've yet come across that had any of the same elements where David Everett's.

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If all the events surrounding Julie's case are directly linked to her disappearance, then her case is sufficiently different to any other known disappearance or murder to be able to confidently assume that they are entirely unrelated.
The only other crimes that I've yet come across that had any of the same elements where David Everett's.
Cutler - car opposite Forrest st. 1988 Bicentenary year.
Anderson - car opposite Dance Dr (25th January 2000).
Dorothy Centenary Ave, 1988 Bicentenary year.

This crime is that weird. A bag turning up at King Cafe.

Other items like a handbag missing.
 
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I only found this, but not sure. Catering businesses etc. I still ponder Hawaiian exist prior 1993 in a different entity?

https://abr.business.gov.au/AbnHistory/View?id=56062193426


Today police revealed they had destroyed a purse, diary and other personal belongings, which were found by a member of the public at the beach.
The evidence was destroyed 11 years ago but a review of photographs of the items has now revealed they may have been Ms Cutler's possessions.
"As a result of our investigation some items that were dismissed in 1997 as not being Julie's, we found they may possibly be Julie's," Detective Sergeant Gailene Hamilton said.


Interesting 1997 connection. So the cops did check out links between the Claremont girls and Julie.

Cops destroyed articles 11 years ago that would make it around 2007. Who was in charge then? When was the Schramm review?

https://www.9news.com.au/2018/11/27/16/10/perth-forensic-dig-julie-culter-cold-case
 

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If all the events surrounding Julie's case are directly linked to her disappearance, then her case is sufficiently different to any other known disappearance or murder to be able to confidently assume that they are entirely unrelated.
The only other crimes that I've yet come across that had any of the same elements where David Everett's.

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Julie's case has a sniff or 2 of csk. Stalking, breakin, disappearance.
 

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Interesting, thanks FTY.

DAVID WEBER: Along with the cases of Jane Rimmer, Ciara Glennon and Sarah Spiers, the review team looked at a number of disappearances going back to 1980. The review team said the Macro Task Force had also done this. No positive links have yet been made.

Yet he wasn't matched up to the Karrakatta abduction/rape until 2015. Given all the recent publicity around Julie's disappearance at the same time the press attention is going on BRE and Carmel Barbagallo saying the investigation is still active, it would be great if he'd been cleared of involvement if they would say so.
 

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does anyone know who the other two suspects that were named obviously not including Lance?
Highly likely one is the former Mayor.

The other may be his taxi driving boarder or it may be the ''IT expert with a kink''
 

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Interesting, thanks FTY.

DAVID WEBER: Along with the cases of Jane Rimmer, Ciara Glennon and Sarah Spiers, the review team looked at a number of disappearances going back to 1980. The review team said the Macro Task Force had also done this. No positive links have yet been made.

Yet he wasn't matched up to the Karrakatta abduction/rape until 2015. Given all the recent publicity around Julie's disappearance at the same time the press attention is going on BRE and Carmel Barbagallo saying the investigation is still active, it would be great if he'd been cleared of involvement if they would say so.
I don't think the cops would risk announcing the clearing of anyone lest they find something that provides the ultimate link.
 

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If the company didn't exist till 1993, it's impossible Julie have access the brand-ware like pens and diary.

Julie traveled so she may well have been to Hawaii? Someone may have however found her lost purse.

Maybe someone had a broader stash there? A glory box of sorts?
Julie had traveled to the UK.
 
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I would like a better description of the pen just saying Hawaiian to me means it may have just been decorative with Frangipani flowers on like something you can pick up in Kmart. Not necessarily a brand. Or Julie may have found it left behind at the hotel previously and liberated it like the champagne glasses
 

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I would like a better description of the pen just saying Hawaiian to me means it may have just been decorative with Frangipani flowers on like something you can pick up in Kmart. Not necessarily a brand. Or Julie may have found it left behind at the hotel previously and liberated it like the champagne glasses
Or she was given them at the awards night, which is why they were in her car a the time. Don't forget the diary. Don't forget the purse.

I haven't known many people to drive around with a car full of champagne flutes. Assumptions all round really.

Did travel agents ever hand out pens and diaries for trips around Europe?
 
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