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Racquet Club is now in adelaide tce Causeway end. Anyone know when they moved from Northbridge?

Robert (Bob) J MaherChairman, Boss Entertainment

Bob first entered the entertainment industry in 1967. He made his way from a barman to a club manager, and eventually owner.

The first venue he owned and directed was Pinocchios Nightclub.Bob was the first unofficial Co-ordinator and Chairman of the Cabaret Owners Association, and instrumental in commencing the official Association (now called the WA Nightclub Association).

Bob started the West Australian Rock Awards (which is now the Government controlled WAMI Awards). In 1980, Bob was asked by Stuart Wagstaff and Paul Hogan to set up the West Australian region of the entertainment industry’s charity, The Variety Club Australia. He did so and was West Australia’s inaugural Chairman. Boss Entertainment has been responsible for the creation and operation of a wide range of hospitality opportunities spanning most of the differing licence classes.

Current ownership interests / experience:The Deen Hotel, Northbridge WABlack Bettys (previously Post Office Nightclub), Northbridge WAEurobar, Northbridge WAVarsity Bar (previously Basement on Broadway), Nedlands WA

Previousownership interests / experience:Pinnocchios, Perth WABeethovens, Perth WAGobbles, Perth WATiffanys Piano Bar, Perth WAThe Melbourne Hotel, Perth WAThe Fitzgerald Hotel, Perth WAThe Rhodes Hotel, South Perth WAF-Scotts, Perth WAF-Scotts, Melbourne VicThe Racquet Club, Northbridge WAThe Hip-e Club, Leederville WAExit, Northbridge WA

https://www.rgl.wa.gov.au/docs/defa...ovement-group-of-northbridge-(2).pdf?sfvrsn=0
A lot of fingers in a lot of pies.
 

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A Blog post from a former Parmelia Hotel work colleague of Julie Culter
"A full moon, serial killers and tales of happier times" https://www.positivelybeaming.com.a...oon-serial-killers-and-tales-of-happier-times
What you need to understand about The Parmelia is that at the time there were only two 5 star hotels in the City. If you had a ball, a wedding or an important work event it was held at the Parmelia or the Sheraton.
The 5 star 400 bed atrium style Merlin Hotel at the Causeway end of St Georges Terrace opened 1984ish
by a Malaysian Groupon. It was sold to Stan Perron in 1986 then ended up in the Hyatt chain.

Not sure it retained its 5 star status all the time, but it most definitely was rated 5 star in 1985.

And ..... great find Pete
 

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A Blog post from a former Parmelia Hotel work colleague of Julie Culter
"A full moon, serial killers and tales of happier times" https://www.positivelybeaming.com.a...oon-serial-killers-and-tales-of-happier-times
Been posted before, but a great refresher.

Almost 30 years ago to the day, Julie Cutler disappeared from a staff party at the Parmelia Hilton, her car was found at Cottesloe Beach but she was never seen again. She was 22 , I was almost 21, she drove a Fiat, so did I, we worked together on the Banquet Floor of the hotel. She worked at the staff party, I chose not to go

Maybe now they have some DNA today and not the DNA of the killer but do now?

I forgot to ask about the tights – surely they can get DNA off a pair of tights??

What you need to understand about The Parmelia is that at the time there were only two 5 star hotels in the City. If you had a ball, a wedding or an important work event it was held at the Parmelia or the Sheraton.
It was the height of WA Inc, Brian Burke was in power, Alan Bond, Dallas Dempster and cronies were having long lunches and there was money everywhere. The Banquet Floor (Functions Centre) was booming. I worked on 2 weddings a weekend, every weekend for almost 5 years. We did endless 21sts, Labor Cabinet meetings (all hush hush with the menus destroyed). We served Sir Charles Court, Margaret Thatcher and the Pope.


The champagne flutes?

We worked hard, laughed a lot and ended most nights with staffies – finishing off the half-drunk bottles of wine and smoking like chimneys. Eventually when the booze ran out we would all drive home, tired, tipsy and happy.
 
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Been posted before, but a great refresher.

Almost 30 years ago to the day, Julie Cutler disappeared from a staff party at the Parmelia Hilton, her car was found at Cottesloe Beach but she was never seen again. She was 22 , I was almost 21, she drove a Fiat, so did I, we worked together on the Banquet Floor of the hotel. She worked at the staff party, I chose not to go

Maybe now they have some DNA today and not the DNA of the killer but do now?

I forgot to ask about the tights – surely they can get DNA off a pair of tights??

What you need to understand about The Parmelia is that at the time there were only two 5 star hotels in the City. If you had a ball, a wedding or an important work event it was held at the Parmelia or the Sheraton.
It was the height of WA Inc, Brian Burke was in power, Alan Bond, Dallas Dempster and cronies were having long lunches and there was money everywhere. The Banquet Floor (Functions Centre) was booming. I worked on 2 weddings a weekend, every weekend for almost 5 years. We did endless 21sts, Labor Cabinet meetings (all hush hush with the menus destroyed). We served Sir Charles Court, Margaret Thatcher and the Pope.


The champagne flutes?

We worked hard, laughed a lot and ended most nights with staffies – finishing off the half-drunk bottles of wine and smoking like chimneys. Eventually when the booze ran out we would all drive home, tired, tipsy and happy.
You noticed too.
"tired, tipsy and happy".

There's an opening for considering that just maybe she accidentally put her own car in the drink at cottesloe and attempted to stagger home, in the process losing some stuff in the sand dunes, or being picked up along the way or attacked and bundled into a van at those dunes where her stuff was found? Assuming of course that all that weird stuff about a break in, the bag of clothes, and the road rage incident is purely coincidental of course.

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You noticed too.
"tired, tipsy and happy".

There's an opening for considering that just maybe she accidentally put her own car in the drink at cottesloe and attempted to stagger home, in the process losing some stuff in the sand dunes, or being picked up along the way or attacked and bundled into a van at those dunes where her stuff was found? Assuming of course that all that weird stuff about a break in, the bag of clothes, and the road rage incident is purely coincidental of course.

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Would she have to go past Cottesloe Beach to get home though? Presuming she was actually on her way home and not meeting someone at Cottesloe. Then taken either a sharp left or right turn across another lane to enter the winding service road down to the beach. It doesn't seem that might be done accidentally.
 

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You noticed too.
"tired, tipsy and happy".

There's an opening for considering that just maybe she accidentally put her own car in the drink at cottesloe and attempted to stagger home, in the process losing some stuff in the sand dunes, or being picked up along the way or attacked and bundled into a van at those dunes where her stuff was found? Assuming of course that all that weird stuff about a break in, the bag of clothes, and the road rage incident is purely coincidental of course.
Driving that car off the wall. A 22 year old girl?
 

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Would she have to go past Cottesloe Beach to get home though? Presuming she was actually on her way home and not meeting someone at Cottesloe. Then taken either a sharp left or right turn across another lane to enter the winding service road down to the beach. It doesn't seem that might be done accidentally.
There does seem to be a lot of circumstantial events surrounding this case to counter a possibility that she put the car into the drink herself. The fact that she hasn't appeared since, would also seem to preclude her staging her own disappearance.

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Would she have to go past Cottesloe Beach to get home though? Presuming she was actually on her way home and not meeting someone at Cottesloe. Then taken either a sharp left or right turn across another lane to enter the winding service road down to the beach. It doesn't seem that might be done accidentally.
Only a couple of weeks earlier, someone had tried run her off Stirling highway, only ceasing near the turn off to Cottesloe. Then Dorothy gets abducted at the other five star hotel, The Sheraton in between.

Julie told her father, Roger, that a car had followed her closely for several kilometres along Stirling Highway, almost touching her rear bumper at times and seemed to be trying to force her off the road.

As she approached a turn-off in the beachside suburb of Cottesloe, the car pulled alongside and then suddenly veered in front of her.
Ms Cutler swerved around it and sped away, later reporting the incident to police.

As her stepsister related, years later, she called “extremely upset. She thought whoever was in the car wanted to run her off the road or force her to pull over.”

http://www.news.com.au/news/vanishe...g/news-story/1f9da6564bf58fdfb6f6532c5e7b5d2f

Ms Cutler’s sister wants three parts of her sister’s disappearance reinvestigated — a break-in at her Fremantle home shortly before she disappeared, her complaint a man had tried to force her car off Stirling Highway and a question of whether she made it home the night she disappeared because her wallet was found at her house.
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/julies-father-wants-an-end-to-familys-pain-ng-b88342268z
 

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1. Two Five Star Hotels
2. Cottesloe Surf Club
3. Eric St
4. WAIT University
5. Centenary Avenue, Wilson (Dorothy dumped very near WAIT (Kent st))
6. 1988
 
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Dorothy was bashed for 3 hours on Hill st? Or in the yellow car, with the steel seat by the driver with the rough gloves?

Julie left from Mill st
 

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In 1988, rally was a pretty big culture. Very soon it would become Telstra Rally. Toyota Corrollas were popular, especially in amateur rally.

Amateur rally was popular in eastern and southern suburbs.

"In 1988 the team had the first Rally Australia based in Perth ready to go. It was to be a round of the Asia-Pacific rally championship and a trial for WRC acceptance. The idea was for FISA officials to evaluate the event and approve it for 1989

The 88 Rally Australia proved a success. The unique surface, layout of the event and organisation made a great combination. Ingvar Carlsson/Per Carlsson took their works Mazda 323 4WD to the first win."


Someone new enough to drive Julies car off the edge into the ocean at the Cottesloe surf club. Maybe rally skilled.

"In late May or early June, Julie rang her father to report an alarming incident in which she had been driving home in her Fiat sedan from work along the Stirling Highway.

Julie told her father, Roger, that a car had followed her closely for several kilometres along Stirling Highway, almost touching her rear bumper at times and seemed to be trying to force her off the road.


As she approached a turn-off in the beachside suburb of Cottesloe, the car pulled alongside and then suddenly veered in front of her.

Ms Cutler swerved around it and sped away, later reporting the incident to police."

 
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Julie Cutler has a madman try run her off the road on Stirling Highway in 1988. Someone not really worried about denting his car. He cuts in front of her.

Dorothy has a man abduct her within weeks of Julie, bash her in Hill st then drive off in a car with a steel passenger seat, wearing rough gloves. A small yellow car, possibly Toyota.

Julie Cutler disappears after leaving a five star hotel (Mill st). Dorothy was leaving the only other five star hotel, Sheraton.

Julies car is driven down a driveway at Cottesloe Surf Club and off the wall into the ocean. Someone with a bit of car knowledge knew they could pull this off.

Dorothy is dumped near WAIT (Curtain University) on Centenary drive in the year of Bi Centenary celebrations. (1988)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Bicentenary


1988 is also the inception of Telstra Rally Australia in Perth.

Who had the dirt track hack amateur rally car? The hacker for the Pine Forest in 1988?

Here is an early specced up Corrolla for rally. Corollas were common rally at the time. Amateur rally held eastern and south eastern Perth suburbs

 
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It appears police either feel they already have someone in prison, or the police have considerable evidence against someone else they have in reserve for future charges.

The consistency in highschools appear to be indicative of how this will pan out. Familiar locations.

No doubt police will take more up once they have a few more details and people cleared from certain crimes.
 

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Would she have to go past Cottesloe Beach to get home though? Presuming she was actually on her way home and not meeting someone at Cottesloe. Then taken either a sharp left or right turn across another lane to enter the winding service road down to the beach. It doesn't seem that might be done accidentally.
If Julie was living in Fremantle, she would have driven south west along Stirling Hwy to get home. To get to Cottesloe Beach, Julie would have to have turned off Stirling Hwy and headed north west. But in saying that, Cottesloe would not have been too far out of her way to go to.
 
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https://www.news.com.au/news/vanish...g/news-story/1f9da6564bf58fdfb6f6532c5e7b5d2f
.... she had been driving home in her Fiat sedan from work along the Stirling Highway. Julie told her father, Roger, that a car had followed her closely for several kilometres along Stirling Highway, almost touching her rear bumper at times and seemed to be trying to force her off the road.
As she approached a turn-off in the beachside suburb of Cottesloe, the car pulled alongside and then suddenly veered in front of her.
Ms Cutler swerved around it and sped away, later reporting the incident to police.

So we can assume this happened at the Eric Street lights. This just could have been a case of road rage because she was travelling in the right lane and this person either wanted to get in this lane to pass her or turn right onto Eric Street? And to be honest i can't see her little Fiat speeding away from anything!! Also as this was in a completely built up area it would have been pretty hard to swerve anywhere if the car suddenly veered in front of her, unless she swerved into the oncoming traffic lanes, as to swerve in the other direction she would have hit the curb and gone onto the footpath. Julie would most likely have to have braked hard.This whole scenario doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
 

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https://www.news.com.au/news/vanish...g/news-story/1f9da6564bf58fdfb6f6532c5e7b5d2f
.... she had been driving home in her Fiat sedan from work along the Stirling Highway. Julie told her father, Roger, that a car had followed her closely for several kilometres along Stirling Highway, almost touching her rear bumper at times and seemed to be trying to force her off the road.
As she approached a turn-off in the beachside suburb of Cottesloe, the car pulled alongside and then suddenly veered in front of her.
Ms Cutler swerved around it and sped away, later reporting the incident to police.

So we can assume this happened at the Eric Street lights. This just could have been a case of road rage because she was travelling in the right lane and this person either wanted to get in this lane to pass her or turn right onto Eric Street? And to be honest i can't see her little Fiat speeding away from anything!! Also as this was in a completely built up area it would have been pretty hard to swerve anywhere if the car suddenly veered in front of her, unless she swerved into the oncoming traffic lanes, as to swerve in the other direction she would have hit the curb and gone onto the footpath. Julie would most likely have to have braked hard.This whole scenario doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I imagine the moment a vehicle thats been tailing you closely for Km's begins coming up alongside, you'd instinctively slow anyway to put some distance between you.
It wouldnt matter what lane she was in when the car cut over into hers, she'd have moved into the other lane to pass it.
 

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when discovered in the surf, was there any paint transfer on julies car or marks that could be attributed to being run off the road? if driving straight ahead into the water, you would expect front damage. running someone off the road suggests side or rear damage. was any reported, or paint scrapings taken?
 

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when discovered in the surf, was there any paint transfer on julies car or marks that could be attributed to being run off the road? if driving straight ahead into the water, you would expect front damage. running someone off the road suggests side or rear damage. was any reported, or paint scrapings taken?
There are a few really good quality pics of Julie's car when it came out of the surf in this thread. Also a couple of the car in storage.
 

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