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the dark knight

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Hello everyone,
Apologies if this has been raised, There’s a lot of conjecture as to if JC was the alleged CSK’s 1st victim. I’m only new to this case, IMO tho, I don’t believe this was the work of the alleged CSK. I hope tho that the killer is brought to justice.
 

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GreyCrow

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Hello everyone,
Apologies if this has been raised, There’s a lot of conjecture as to if JC was the alleged CSK’s 1st victim. I’m only new to this case, IMO tho, I don’t believe this was the work of the alleged CSK. I hope tho that the killer is brought to justice.
I dont know. My gut feel is no but thats more age related .

I think there has been a good theory posted around ransom gone wrong but again its hard to lock down
 

zedx

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Hello everyone,
Apologies if this has been raised, There’s a lot of conjecture as to if JC was the alleged CSK’s 1st victim. I’m only new to this case, IMO tho, I don’t believe this was the work of the alleged CSK. I hope tho that the killer is brought to justice.
Yes it has been talked about a lot. It really is a mystery as there are no real clues to go on. IMHO I would not be surprised if it was CSK related, but then again there are some other good theories.
 

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Yes it has been talked about a lot. It really is a mystery as there are no real clues to go on. IMHO I would not be surprised if it was CSK related, but then again there are some other good theories.
Many might disagree with me and that's okay but I've got BRE for it.

Put the screws to imo. Maybe even Kerry Turner.
 

the dark knight

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Many might disagree with me and that's okay but I've got BRE for it.

Put the screws to imo. Maybe even Kerry Turner.
I know perps can change MO. But this seems a little too forward for the CSK. We know with the CSK trial, That the perp mainly laid in wait. Attempting to ram a car off the road and chucking it into the beach. I’d love to see some closure for her family and friends.
 

zedx

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Not sure how old BRE would have been in 1988??
If it was BRE, he may have felt this didn't work out and so needed to change his MO. The similarities are that her house was broken into earlier and there is no body, along with the fact that he knew this area well. He worked there and its rumored he spent some time with the surf club??
 

GreyCrow

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Not sure how old BRE would have been in 1988??
If it was BRE, he may have felt this didn't work out and so needed to change his MO. The similarities are that her house was broken into earlier and there is no body, along with the fact that he knew this area well. He worked there and its rumored he spent some time with the surf club??
He was 19-20
 

zedx

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He was 19-20
Thanks Grey Crow. i don't know if this puts more or less weight to BRE being involved in the JC disappearance. On the one hand, would some one this age be capable of doing something like this? Or would this be the sort of crazy thing a young person rather than older person would do??
 

GreyCrow

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Thanks Grey Crow. i don't know if this puts more or less weight to BRE being involved in the JC disappearance. On the one hand, would some one this age be capable of doing something like this? Or would this be the sort of crazy thing a young person rather than older person would do??
Without knowing the full details ie the on road dust up may not even be connected , it would seem more likely to be a young hoon road rage , which on its own is fine

But to then move that into murder? And to have the wherewithal to get the car into the sea? That is more than a 19 year old ( in my opinion) would do. A 19 yr old - as you say - is more rage than planning.

1 scenario is she drove into the sea ( by accident) and her body was swept out to sea.

Another is the petedavo theory of kidnapping/ransom and she was taken from the car and someone else dumped the car and swam out.

Finding her stuff on the beach doesnt really help the 1st scenario but it is more probable with the 2nd

Having her stuff on the beach also means a rage theory also falls apart. ie the car and the body are in the water - what need of her personal effects?
 
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zedx

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Without knowing the full details ie the on road dust up may not even be connected , it would seem more likely to be a young hoon road rage , which on its own is fine

But to then move that into murder? And to have the wherewithal to get the car into the sea? That is more than a 19 year old ( in my opinion) would do. A 19 yr old - as you say - is more rage than planning.

1 scenario is she drove into the sea ( by accident) and her body was swept out to sea.

Another is the metic theory of kidnapping/ransom and she was taken from the car and someone else dumped the car and swam out.

Finding her stuff on the beach doesnt really help the 1st scenario but it is more probable with the 2nd

Having her stuff on the beach also means a rage theory also falls apart. ie the car and the body are in the water - what need of her personal effects?
Thanks Grey Crow, totally agree. Although we don't have much evidence to go on, it is a very complex case with what we do know!! Are you referring to note book? & pen? found recently in the sand dunes??
 

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Without knowing the full details ie the on road dust up may not even be connected , it would seem more likely to be a young hoon road rage , which on its own is fine

But to then move that into murder? And to have the wherewithal to get the car into the sea? That is more than a 19 year old ( in my opinion) would do. A 19 yr old - as you say - is more rage than planning.

1 scenario is she drove into the sea ( by accident) and her body was swept out to sea.

Another is the metic theory of kidnapping/ransom and she was taken from the car and someone else dumped the car and swam out.

Finding her stuff on the beach doesnt really help the 1st scenario but it is more probable with the 2nd

Having her stuff on the beach also means a rage theory also falls apart. ie the car and the body are in the water - what need of her personal effects?
"Another is the metic theory of kidnapping/ransom and she was taken from the car and someone else dumped the car and swam out."

No that's not my theory at all crow .
I think it was Petedavo who went that path
 

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what other majorly nasty individuals do we know were about at the time? making myself a shortlist with pros and cons for each person. Birnies? Masters? Did JC have a jealous ex boyfriend, or possibly a spurned workmate?
 

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