Discussion Jumpers That Never Were

[Sparkle]

Essendon training jumper from around late 90s

https://www.carters.com.au/index.cf...-training-jumper-flash-design-with-speed-kil/

Shouldn't it have the old AFL logo if it's from the late '90? Or was the current logo in use before 2000 but only officially adopted at the turn of the millenium (similar to the 2000-07 Cats logo which had been used since '94)

 

[FXD_]

AFL logo came in 2000 so that Essendon training is at the earliest from 2000.

 

[Gibbsy]

AFL logo came in 2000 so that Essendon training is at the earliest from 2000.

It can only be from 2000. TAC left at the end of 2000 season.

 

[Mero]

2000 it is then.

 

[MKMatty]

Here it is in action.

 

[Mero]

Robran, Ladhams, Moorcroft, McVeigh, Solomon, M. Johnson, Eastaugh, Podsiadly, Blumfield, Barnard.
Seven of the ten went on to play for other clubs.
Two of the remaining three came from Hawthorn to Essendon.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Podsiadly's *******... 'run...' what a meme.

 

[Freight Train]

Here it is in action.
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That honestly could have made a really cool jumper if it took up the whole space, IMO.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Claws were a real early 2000s footy fetish thing, weren't they BT?

Richmond had them just about every pre-season but there were a few local clubs still doing them up until a few years ago.

Just one of those images you remember as a kid and as a footy jumper... noticer... it's sometimes your first experience of 'oh, that's not what they usually wear! What is that?'

 

[Sparkle]

Claws were a real early 2000s footy fetish thing, weren't they BT?

Richmond had them just about every pre-season but there were a few local clubs still doing them up until a few years ago.

Just one of those images you remember as a kid and as a footy jumper... noticer... it's sometimes your first experience of 'oh, that's not what they usually wear! What is that?'

Claw marks are still getting a run down Geelong way, this is the Colac Tigers from the GFL. Fairly certain they've worn the same design since they joined the league about 15-20 years ago

 

[Cody_]

Claws were a real early 2000s footy fetish thing, weren't they BT?

Richmond had them just about every pre-season but there were a few local clubs still doing them up until a few years ago.

Just one of those images you remember as a kid and as a footy jumper... noticer... it's sometimes your first experience of 'oh, that's not what they usually wear! What is that?'

Still ripinnn

 

[The Victorian]

A few AFLW guernseys that were not used

Tassie was changed to Tasmania and there are no white cuffs on North's guernsey


Essendon didn't end up being accepted into the league hence these guernseys are not being used anymore.

 

[SC26]

I got my hands on a prototype 2009 Crows training guernsey, pictured below.

The actual final product is below.


The prototype has an earlier version of the ultra-tight cut (with that weird bib) that Adidas used on some guernseys that were produced early on for the 2009 season. The mesh goes lower on the shoulders on the prototype cut but doesn't on that the final cut. The mesh bib is fatter on the prototype, too. The yellow line going across the back of the guernsey is actually piping on the prototype and not a sublimated line, like on the final guernsey.
Also, the Crows logo text is red instead of navy on the prototype, and the AFL logo doesn't have the thick stroke.

 

[jroam82]

Haha. That's my carpet.

There's a sample version of the away 09 jumper floating around too with similar differences - cut, bib, shoulders, etc and the Toyota logo on the back in a different spot.

Nice find.

 

[SC26]

Haha. That's my carpet.

There's a sample version of the away 09 jumper floating around too with similar differences - cut, bib, shoulders, etc and the Toyota logo on the back in a different spot.

Nice find.

Wowee... do/did you have any other 2009 training guernseys? Do/did they have the different cut?

That 2009 away jumper keeps popping up for sale every few months, for some reason.


This sold a while ago, a 2009 training guernsey in blue which has the early cut.

 

[jroam82]

Nah. Just the green one (and not any more).

 

[Silent Alarm]

Been a few 'insights' into Freo's looks over their history via a podcast from the physiotherapist – the only man who has always been a part of the club.

Some of it is interesting but I really get the feeling all anecdotes and facts are heavily talked up. So many contradictions. But the one thing is that there were far too many cooks in the kitchen back then. Plenty of marketing people who were actually hired, people at the AFL who thought they were, and lots more at FFC with their own agenda. I guess we'll never know the actual facts, but I'm pretty sure most people who come up with these yarns just want to lay claim to something...

- the 'Dockers' name was from left-field; Mariners, Seagulls, Hammers, Vikings, Dolphins, Stingrays were vetoed by initial CEO Ross Kelly. He told everyone that the breeze, the Fremantle Doctor, was once called the Fremantle Docker. People bought it. Blame him.
– the AFL gave a mandate that more than two colours had to be used
– initial colours were blue, white, and green (?)
– the designer of the Boxing Kangaroo flag designed the jumper, and came up with the idea of adding purple...
– ...then they added red (?)
– the WAFC preferred the royal blue design. Freo honchos didn't. They went to Burley-Sekem and told them to run a printing of the purple-based jumper. When the FFC had to present their ideal strip to get it ticked off, they then showed off the purple jumper, told them Sekem had botched the colour tone, and that the printing had already started...

https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2019-03-21/how-a-white-lie-helped-the-dockers-get-their-name
https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2019-03-21/the-deliberate-blue-that-turned-freo-purple

As I said I'm pretty sure a lot of this is horseshit. Dockers was trademarked at the same time as names like Hammer and Dolphins – and all the logos had the same principle look, really. And purple went way back in the design process – it wasn't like the anchor was the only ever possible strip and the colours were adapted between it.

Even in this story, the guy tries saying the colours were blue, white, and green and that red was added later. But then purple was changed from blue. But then... when did the red come? It's all over the place.

 

[MIKE85]

Surely no one involved would’ve ticked off a royal blue guernsey when the existing WA teams main colour was royal blue (at the time, we obviously went to navy home royal away from 95 onwards, but was still one of our main colours)

 

[fancyscum]

Surely no one involved would’ve ticked off a royal blue guernsey when the existing WA teams main colour was royal blue (at the time, we obviously went to navy home royal away from 95 onwards, but was still one of our main colours)

Not surprising, look at how similar GC’s colours were made to Brisbane’s!

 

[SC26]

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BRISBANE-LIONS-JUMPER-9-PLAYER-ISSUE/362595736469
Identical to 2017 Majestic jumper, but has UA logos
?

 

[Silent Alarm]

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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BRISBANE-LIONS-JUMPER-9-PLAYER-ISSUE/362595736469
Identical to 2017 Majestic jumper, but has UA logos
?

A mate sent this to me today. Really curious. We've seen manufacturers do dummy runs before getting the contracts that look a little different (think no side panels, different coloured cuffs) but I've never seen someone who lost the bid, have a jumper end up for sale.

Medium, sublimation of number, close-ups indicate it is indeed a protoype.

Nice collar too.

 

[makri]

A mate sent this to me today. Really curious. We've seen manufacturers do dummy runs before getting the contracts that look a little different (think no side panels, different coloured cuffs) but I've never seen someone who lost the bid, have a jumper end up for sale.

Medium, sublimation of number, close-ups indicate it is indeed a protoype.

Nice collar too.

There were a few Carlton jumper from 1996 made by Puma with sublimated numbers and AFL Centenary logos floating around. Apparently these were samples made up by Puma, I think Carlton ended up using Sekem jumpers in '96 before moving onto Nike.

 

[TY24]

Looks like it has Majestics low down number placement as well. Maybe Majestic just copied and pasted their logo over the top.

 

[SC26]

Different design for Vero sponsor.

 

[Pessimistic]

Spare a thought for european soccer supporters who obsess over collecting their jumpers. they would have dozens if not hundreds in storage. many of them absolutely revolting