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We are very big on moral victories and constantly throwing out how young the list is.
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Justin Leppitsch sack watch
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We are very big on moral victories and constantly throwing out how young the list is.
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Christenson, Bell and Robinson? All in the Lions' best on the weekend and have been amongst the better players since arriving.
It's not a great list to start with, and they're missing Rockliff, Beams, Green, Clarke, Andrews.
You'd want to see some young players improving during the course of the year, but this is what a proper rebuild looks like.
You'd want to see some young players improving during the course of the year, but this is what a proper rebuild looks like.
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14th youngest and 15th in terms of experience. Fremantle are the oldest and 3rd in terms of experience.
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God yes, we will do a deal of Voss and Hart as a combined package. I'll personally drive them both up there free of charge.
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Eade is not on high alert. Cochrane guaranteed his position next year.
We could have the Scott brothers team-coaching us with Hart, Voss, Leppa, Black, Caracella (Geelong), Lappin (Geelong), and Luke Power (GWS) as the assistants.
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Still, bottom 6 of most clubs. Bell in particular offers nothing. Robinson at least has been putting in but nothing more than a soldier
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Job should be safe. Lions have been dealt a very tough opening 10 rounds of the season and a stack of serious injuries.
Should and could win 5 or 6 games more for the remainder of the season. Lots of quality young KPP developing, give them time and they will come good.
Should and could win 5 or 6 games more for the remainder of the season. Lots of quality young KPP developing, give them time and they will come good.
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Im watching Lippitsch's sack very closely
hows it hanging?
This. They have had a couple of really poor games, but pushing Sydney and Hawthorn all the way shows that they are at least trying.
What? Bell and Robbo played regular footy for Carlton as did Christensen with the cats. Nowhere near the bottom 6
Really??
I'm not saying that any (other than Beams) are necessarily 'top 5' at other clubs, but i can guarantee that S. Martin, M. Robinson, A. Christensen, R. Bastinac and T. Bell would get games at plenty of other clubs.
T. West, J. Jansen, J. Walker - the less said about those ones the better.
What hurt them was the loss of talented young players in that important ~50 games experience level. You don't immediately replace quality of the likes of Yeo, Doherty, Polec, Aish, Longer (all 'requested' trades) and Clarke (injury) without dropping down a notch. Add to that the constant injuries to Beams and Rockliff - two of their best 5 players, and you aren't going to be challenging for finals any time soon.
They do have some young talent there now (that hopefully wants to hang around) so in 3-5 years they should be a very good side. Whether Leppa can last that long is another question.
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Stuck to his left leg at the moment - 75% humidity with a chance of ball rash
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Bottom six of what? Best 22? As has already been pointed out a few of the Lions mature recruits would get regular senior games at quite a few other clubs.
How many Brisbane games have you actually watched? Bell in fact does offer something particularly as a half forward. Also hardness at the ball. Bell is in the Lions' top half dozen for winning contested possessions along with Robinson (1st), Bastinac (2nd) and Martin (4th). Kicked four goals on the weekend against the reigning premiers. Was excellent against Sydney a month ago. Had a great game against Geelong too five or so weeks ago.
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Bastinac's been good for us when given an inside role but we haven't seemed to play him there a hell of a lot and without Beams and Rocky, I don't understand why not. Robinson, Christensen and Bell would not be bottom 6 players at every club.
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Made no progress since 2014 to spite some good trades. Brisbane is not a footy city and with 18 teams it is out of sight out of mind a bit. If he coached a Vic, SA WA club he would be under massive heat.
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Their three peat side was the toughest I've ever seen, but they've not adapted (partially due to 0 external coaches since 2003) and now have a culture that doesn't fit their list. Rockliff types, hard working late picks, fit the no nonsense culture well. However, the 'mummies boys' that he openly mocked were clearly improperly fostered by the powers at the club. Guys like Docherty and Yeo may not fit the bill of 'uncompromising', but every club needs them.
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Seventeen players have made their debut with the Lions since 2014, more than at any other club in the competition, with Melbourne and Gold Coast both having 16. Ten played their first games in 2014 alone, the year after five first-round draft picks left. There have been three debutants this year. 2015 Brisbane had the largest injury list in the AFL. 2016 the Brisbane list is the youngest in the AFl and has played the least games.
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You would know more than me. Your opinion on Leppitch?
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Has a clear vision for the club and is pursuing it. Is rebuilding the list slowly.
Hardwick took four years to rebuild Richmond into a finals side. Leppitsch has had two and a bit.,
The Lions have lost significant age and playing experience with the retirements or departures of Simon Black (322), Jonathan Brown (256), Ash McGrath (214), Jed Adcock (206), Joel Patfull (182), Matt Maguire (170) and Brent Staker (160) amongst others, including many of the older players that Michael Voss recruited at the end of 2009.
Not to mention those that departed before Leppitsch had even coached a game (Polec, Longer, Docherty, Yeo), forching Leppitsch to replace them with even younger players from the draft. Only now are the Lions are starting to get games into them (Gardiner - 33 games, Taylor - 53 games, Cutler - 24 games, Robertson - 22 games)
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Not enough anger over this. Yes Voss ****ed up after 2009 but they were looking decent for the first time in years when that happened.
Well, it seems by what lion fans are saying, they don't really need any help. The only reason why they have been down is because they have had injuries to key players and played a lot of young kids over the past couple of years (which should put them is a good position from 2017). Their recruits have been good, and after the 'blip' of losing a few young players, hopefully Lambett is able to sort that out.
So all looking good for the future. Not sure what we are all concerned about.
So all looking good for the future. Not sure what we are all concerned about.
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The rebuild is continuing.
The Lions however do need financial assistance from the AFL.
Brisbane's
- spending on football operations is $1.5 million below the competition's benchmark.
- training and player facilities are the worst in the competition
- funding to spend the extra six-figure salary cap money the Lions had "banked" over 2015 in order to further improve their player list by recruiting for needs (such as an established key defender to replace the retired Clarke and from next year possibly Merrett) is not available to them. Only 95% of their salary cap was spent in 2015, which normally would mean they could spend 105% of the cap the following year.
