Justin Reid

[jackster83]

It's only taken him three years but he's successfully destroyed our list.

Long term deals to Walker, Jenkins, Lynch, etc have left us with limited ability to turn over the list, and has left us close to the cap. Now we've got an army of 30 year olds stuck in the twos.

Gibbs trade. Not much more needs to be said.

Ageing fringe players like Mackay, Douglas and Otten should have been moved on last year.

Failure to address needs in the trade/draft period - ruck depth, KPD depth, another small forward with PACE.

Messing players around with contracts. We saw it with Henderson, Lever (future captain of the club), McGovern, Lyons and now Greenwood. It's cost us players who are in the prime of their career.

Worst of all is our effort in last year's draft. We got outplayed by Port, failed to move our picks up to secure elite talent and kicked the can down the road to secure a pick in a lesser draft.

All in all another failure by another Mark Ricciuto boys club appointment.

Add him to the sack list.

 

[Cap]

Look, happy for valid points but some of that post is just laughable.

 

[jackster83]

Look, happy for valid points but some of that post is just laughable.

What do you disagree with?

 

[Mike Smyth]

When he was hired the few of us who questioned this bizarre appointment given his father's history were shouted down as being negative and paranoid.

Our list is really poor like it was from 2000 to 2004. Actually it might even be in worse shape given we don't have the quality like we had with the fab 4 back then. Massive, massive rebuild coming. The only plus is the AFC will not be able to manufacture "hononourable" 7th/8th place finishes with this list. We heading for the bottom 7 for quite a few years once we retire the oldies.

You reap what you sow my friends.

 

[Cap]

What do you disagree with?

Well pretty much all of it where you've confused what he does and aligning blame to him for things that clearly aren't his doing.

So most of it really.

Not saying he is good or bad don't get me wrong, but the current malaise is hardly his doing.

 

[the universal]

I don't know how anyone can look at him and derive any sort of confidence from him. Just his appearance, his general demeanour screams of utter haplessness.

 

[CutAboveTheRest]

Just another member of the boys club.

 

[Geoffa32]

Not sure about Reid.

But when do we start to question Hamish Ogilvie in wasting first rounders on Gooch and Jones.

Neither will be elite. Their ceiling is the level our mids are now.

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[FR0GGY]

I questioned his appointment purely on the fact he had zero list management experience.

 

[WetCrow1991]

Like his dad, a POS.

 

[1970crow]

It's only taken him three years but he's successfully destroyed our list.

Long term deals to Walker, Jenkins, Lynch, etc have left us with limited ability to turn over the list, and has left us close to the cap. Now we've got an army of 30 year olds stuck in the twos.

Gibbs trade. Not much more needs to be said.

Ageing fringe players like Mackay, Douglas and Otten should have been moved on last year.

Failure to address needs in the trade/draft period - ruck depth, KPD depth, another small forward with PACE.

Messing players around with contracts. We saw it with Henderson, Lever (future captain of the club), McGovern, Lyons and now Greenwood. It's cost us players who are in the prime of their career.

Worst of all is our effort in last year's draft. We got outplayed by Port, failed to move our picks up to secure elite talent and kicked the can down the road to secure a pick in a lesser draft.

All in all another failure by another Mark Ricciuto boys club appointment.

Add him to the sack list.

Nope. It’s not him that determines player value. Look elsewhere. Maybe start with the people that determine how valuable players are and then provide instruction to List Management.

 

[WetCrow1991]

Was his appointment part of the deal Reid Snr did with Tippo and the cheating debacle.

 

[1970crow]

Was his appointment part of the deal Reid Snr did with Tippo and the cheating debacle.

This is bullshit. Apart from the Lyons departure and Gibbs acquisition, this guy has exceeded expectations in every single trade scenario that has been forced upon us.

We’ve got problems, Reid isn’t amongst the list.

 

[the universal]

Not sure about Reid.

But when do we start to question Hamish Ogilvie in wasting first rounders on Gooch and Jones.

Neither will be elite. Their ceiling is the level our mids are now.

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Ogilvie is one of the very few competent components of this club.

 

[Cap]

This is on Fagan.

Bet he'll fo missing if we lose this match.

 

[WetCrow1991]

This is bulls**t. Apart from the Lyons departure and Gibbs acquisition, this guy has exceeded expectations in every single trade scenario that has been forced upon us.

We’ve got problems, Reid isn’t amongst the list.

I disagree.

 

[Geoffa32]

Ogilvie is one of the very few competent components of this club.

I generally agree.

But these two picks are dubious.

Gooch is an average cameo player and I just dont see Jone being an elite mid befitting a top ten pick.

The first round of the draft.is where you get your elite talent in. Whether it be via draft.or trading it in using those picks

I have more faith in McHenry. He has some mongrel.

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[Geoffa32]

This is bulls**t. Apart from the Lyons departure and Gibbs acquisition, this guy has exceeded expectations in every single trade scenario that has been forced upon us.

We’ve got problems, Reid isn’t amongst the list.

Even Lyons took three clubs to get the best out of him.

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[Mike Smyth]

I questioned his appointment purely on the fact he had zero list management experience.

Is that really that important. " we can all learn from each other."
Premiership Windows are overrated anyway.

 

[1970crow]

I disagree.

I disagree with your disagreement. My view is that List Managers don’t rate players. That’s what the coaching group do. List Managers are tasked with acquiring/retaining/purchasing at lowest price and not overpaying for acquisitions and also selling at a profit. The reason that we’re not good has SFA to do with Reid. It’s the board, the CEO and then the entire footy dept underneath that. Reid is not a problem whatsoever.

 

[Weiterbot23]

SOS has gotten the better of Reid imo

 

[Geoffa32]

I disagree with your disagreement. My view is that List Managers don’t rate players. That’s what the coaching group do. List Managers are tasked with acquiring/retaining/purchasing at lowest price and not overpaying for acquisitions and also selling at a profit. The reason that we’re not good has SFA to do with Reid. It’s the board, the CEO and then the entire footy dept underneath that. Reid is not a problem whatsoever.

I would suggest Ogilvie's lack of identifying top shelf midfield talent is a bigger issue than Reid.



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[1970crow]

Even Lyons took three clubs to get the best out of him.

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Lyons was very good with us in his last year with us. It’s just that our coaching group didn’t value him as a player so List Management offered a contract commensurate with their value rating. List Management doesn’t rate players, the coaches do that. Our failings are not with JR.

 

[craig crowing]

Roo we thought you were the saviour coming onto committee but mate with your boys club approach has killed the club .
Not only getting mates in but ensuring no decent coaches come in to upset your mates.

 

[WetCrow1991]

I disagree with your disagreement. My view is that List Managers don’t rate players. That’s what the coaching group do. List Managers are tasked with acquiring/retaining/purchasing at lowest price and not overpaying for acquisitions and also selling at a profit. The reason that we’re not good has SFA to do with Reid. It’s the board, the CEO and then the entire footy dept underneath that. Reid is not a problem whatsoever.

Hasnt done any of that.