JVD vs Schwarzegger vs Stallone vs Bruce Willis vs Lundgren vs Norris vs Snipes

[chefmeister]

I don't get the Arnie votes. He was just a meathead who lifted a few weights, which required little skill. And couldn't act..

Wow.

 

[SnakeMan86]

Was going to put Brandon, but thought he only featured in two good roles. Three now that I think about it. Rapid Fire, The Crow, where he was ******* awesome, and of course Showdown which Dolph starred in.

Swayze was unreal in Ghost and Point Break. I should have put him. Come to think of it in Point Break, I reckon that acting is as good as anyone portrayed in any movie. Awesome. Intensity, Calmness, Wisdom, Insanity all in one. Purely phenomenal.

Come on now..... Your missing the GOAT..

 

[Macpotata]

I don't get the Arnie votes. He was just a meathead who lifted a few weights, which required little skill. And couldn't act.

Guys like JC, Norris and Seagal on the other hand. They weren't great actors either, but at least they were very skilful masters of their craft.

Lifting weights like Arnie did required extreme discipline and dedication, steroids or not. Diet, constant training etc.

Seagal was full of s**t. He looked good on camera only. Rockly Balboa took 3000 punches per fight and wasn't a real boxer, but in the movies like they all were, was an invincible god like creature.

 

[RolandF1]

I don't get the Arnie votes. He was just a meathead who lifted a few weights, which required little skill. And couldn't act.

Guys like JC, Norris and Seagal on the other hand. They weren't great actors either, but at least they were very skillful masters of their craft.

Arnie just a meathead versus Norris and Seagal? One a bible bashing birther, the other a fat bloated piece of s**t who constantly lies about his background?

Arnie was a great manager behind the scenes with his films, making sure the filmmakers got what was needed versus the producers to create a decent product. He knew where his strengths were. He was also a millionaire through real estate before he even took up acting. He's not a great actor yeah and freely admits that himself but his charisma on screen far exceeds most other action stars.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Lifting weights like Arnie did required extreme discipline and dedication, steroids or not. Diet, constant training etc.

Sure. Again though, none of that requires much skill.
I'd argue that JCVD also did weights (won the Mr. Belgium bodybuilding title), was disciplined, diligent, etc. But he also developed expert level skills in martial arts; joined the Belgian national karate team at age 12, earned his black belt at the young age of 18. That to me puts him ahead of Arnie.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Arnie just a meathead versus Norris and Seagal? One a bible bashing birther, the other a fat bloated piece of s**t who constantly lies about his background?

Arnie was a great manager behind the scenes with his films, making sure the filmmakers got what was needed versus the producers to create a decent product. He knew where his strengths were. He was also a millionaire through real estate before he even took up acting. He's not a great actor yeah and freely admits that himself but his charisma on screen far exceeds most other action stars.

For me his so called "charisma" feels forced and awkward. Doesn't seem natural at all.

 

[chefmeister]

For me his so called "charisma" feels forced and awkward. Doesn't seem natural at all.

I hear yah, i get the same feeling from pr0n actresses, so much so I almost turn it off.

 

[JackOutback]

He started making an action name for himself after Point Break and Speed, then he went back to his arsty s**t and Johnny Nemonic was just crap.
But then - The Matrix.

Swayze was also good in a low budget sci-fi called Steel Dawn which also starred his wife and who can forget the original Red Dawn, one of my faves back then.

For someone who is not actually a very good actor, Keanu has been in some iconic films across multiple genres: action (Speed, Point Break), sci-fi (Matrix) and comedy (Bill & Ted’s).

It was always Annie and Sly, Van Damme a tier below and everyone else even further below. Willis was as big as the top two but was probably never considered an action hero, more a star that could do action.

 

[Bunkdar]

you forgot Steven Seagal

 

[NSWCROW]

Arnie and it's not even close for sheer weight of numbers.

Die Hard was better than any Arnie movie but you couldn't just vote on just 1 movie.

 

[Registered User]

Arnie by a mile for me.
If you wanna open a real can of worms, get talking about who'd win a real fight out of the martial arts-trained movie guys.

 

[Footyfan61]

Old Stevan lost credibility after a few running scenes

 

[chefmeister]

Arnie by a mile for me.
If you wanna open a real can of worms, get talking about who'd win a real fight out of the martial arts-trained movie guys.

Seriously?

Bruce Lee. Duh. ‍

 

[charcoalchicken]

Arnie and it's not even close for sheer weight of numbers.

Die Hard was better than any Arnie movie but you couldn't just vote on just 1 movie.

Better than terminator 2?
Wrong.

 

[Macpotata]

Arnie by a mile for me.
If you wanna open a real can of worms, get talking about who'd win a real fight out of the martial arts-trained movie guys.

LOL that's sick. Eric Draven lmao. I'll watch that later.

 

[hawks realist]

Come on now..... Your missing the GOAT..

And Youngblood.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

He started making an action name for himself after Point Break and Speed, then he went back to his arsty s**t and Johnny Nemonic was just crap.
But then - The Matrix.

Swayze was also good in a low budget sci-fi called Steel Dawn which also starred his wife and who can forget the original Red Dawn, one of my faves back then.

What about Roadhouse? I just watched it again last week.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Lifting weights like Arnie did required extreme discipline and dedication, steroids or not. Diet, constant training etc.

Seagal was full of s**t. He looked good on camera only. Rockly Balboa took 3000 punches per fight and wasn't a real boxer, but in the movies like they all were, was an invincible god like creature.

With magazines that never ran dry and accuracy that their enemies could only ever dream of.

 

[NSWCROW]

Better than terminator 2?
Wrong.

* the ultimate showdown right there


Needs a poll

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

80s and 90s only, Action Movies

Stallone
Night Hawks
Escape to Victory
Rocky III
First Blood
Rambo:First Blood Part II
Rocky IV
Cobra
Over The Top
Rambo III
Lock Up
Tango & Cash
Rocky V
Cliffhanger
Demolition Man
The Specialist
Assassins
Judge Dredd
Daylight

Schwarzenegger
Conan the Barbarian
Conan the Destroyer
The Terminator
Red Sonja
Commando
Raw Deal
Predator
The Running Man
Red Heat
Total Recall
Terminator 2 : Judgement Day
Last Action Hero
True Lies
Eraser
Batman & Robin
End of Days

Willis
Die Hard
Die Hard 2
Hudson Hawk
The Last Boy Scout
Striking Distance
Die Hard with a Vengeance
Twelve Monkeys
Last Man Standing
The Jackal
Mercury Rising
Armageddon

JCVD
No Retreat, No Surrender
Bloodsport
Black Eagle
Cyborg
Kick Boxer
Lionheart
Death Warrant
Double Impact
Universal Soldier
Nowhere to Run
Hard Target
Timecop
Street Fighter
Sudden Death
Maximum Risk
Double Team
Knock Off
Legionnaire
Universal Soldier : The Return
Inferno

Seagal
Above the Law
Hard to Kill
Marked for Death
Out for Justice
Under Siege
On Deadly Ground
Under Siege 2 : Dark Territory
Executive Decision
The Glimmer Man
Fire Down Below
The Patriot

Chuck Norris
The Octagon
An Eye for an Eye
Silent Rage
Forced Vengeance
Lone Wold McQuade
Missing In Action
Missing in Action 2 : The Beginning
Code of Silence
Invasion U.S.A.
The Delta Force
Firewalker
Braddock : Missing in Action III
Hero and the Terror
Delta Force 2 : The Colombian Connection
The Hitman

Patrick Swayze
The Outsiders
Uncommon Valor
Red Dawn
Youngblood
Steel Dawn
Tiger Warsaw
Road House
Next of Kin
Point Break
Black Dog

Dolph Lundgren

Kurt Russell
Escape from New York
The Thing
Big Trouble In Little China
Tequila Sunrise
Tango & Cash
Backdraft
Tombstone
Stargate
Executive Decision
Escape from L.A.
Breakdown
Soldier

Kurt Russell strong as has already been mentioned by fpcookie, if The Deadly Tower and 3000 Miles to Graceland fell within the window, I'd nearly have him on top.

Some quality from both Stallone and Arnie but on the back of Conan The Barbarian, The Terminator, Commando, Predator, The Running Man, Total Recall, Terminator 2 : Judgement Day and True Lies, I've got to give it to Arnie, his top end is just better, imho.

Willis and Russel with some high top end movies, Seagal with one of the best top end movies in the first Under Siege but nothing else really in that class.

JCVD and Norris clearly a step below. Lundgren not fit to tie most of their boots, he's never really carried a movie, always a supporting role.

Snipes had a number of movies in the window but for me Blade is the stand out with maybe New Jack City, most of the rest not much. Maybe Passenger 57 because Elizabeth Hurley is a stunner.

 

[Rod Stroker]

What does the bold indicate?

 

[RolandF1]

What does the bold indicate?

It looks like what he thinks are quality vs not.

But hes got Executive Decision bolded for Russell but not Seagal so I dont know...

 

[Rod Stroker]

It looks like what he thinks are quality vs not.

But hes got Executive Decision bolded for Russell but not Seagal so I dont know...

I'd hope not. He has Timecop and Legionnaire for JCVD, but not Kickboxer or Lionheart or Hard Target. Makes no sense.

 

[RolandF1]

I'd hope not. He has Timecop and Legionnaire for JCVD, but not Kickboxer or Lionheart or Hard Target. Makes no sense.

I don't agree with some choices but its his opinion.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Arnie for me followed by JCVD and Stallone in 2nd and 3rd.