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stander said:
Bradley should have been studying Prestagiacomo yesterday- did not give Fevola an inch on the lead. Its called concentration and he can't handle it very well.

How were Darren Glass and Ben Rutten going at age 20 ?
 
Geez some of you are really harsh on the kid... I would love to have kepler in my team. He's in his second year of the system and has usually had to be played far deep in the backline, which is hard for any kid, especially when your team is in the bottom 2. You must remember that KPs take alot longer than midfielders to develop. McPhee is a good example of this, didn't do much at freo in his first couple of years, but then burst on to the stage with you guys. Don't be tempted to make harsh judgements on these kids. Especially when your team is performing badly. Remember the saints circa 2000-2002.
 
stander said:
Bradley should have been studying Prestagiacomo yesterday- did not give Fevola an inch on the lead. Its called concentration and he can't handle it very well.

How old is Prestigiacomo? Show me an accomplished key position backmen who are 20-21? If we draft hansen or Gumby they are going to need three or more years before they will show much. Stander- your negativity is simply amazing. Richardson is a big strong talented key position player who was having a special game in a pretty good career. Do you write off Fletcher when Hall or Bradshaw do a number on him? I bet you would have written off Fletcher early in his career as well. I dont know if Bradley will make it or not but I do not there is no tougher position to learn than a key position in the backline playing on guns- especially when there is fast delivery, lots of space and little help from your teammates.
 
foj1 said:
How old is Prestigiacomo? Show me an accomplished key position backmen who are 20-21? If we draft hansen or Gumby they are going to need three or more years before they will show much. Stander- your negativity is simply amazing. Richardson is a big strong talented key position player who was having a special game in a pretty good career. Do you write off Fletcher when Hall or Bradshaw do a number on him? I bet you would have written off Fletcher early in his career as well. I dont know if Bradley will make it or not but I do not there is no tougher position to learn than a key position in the backline playing on guns- especially when there is fast delivery, lots of space and little help from your teammates.

Foji- He looked hopeless on Richardson and should have done better. Has looked confused all year, the coaches can take some of the blame. No doubt Ayres will have the tapes rolling and confuse him even more. If you are looking for a positive- Watson turned it around in year 4. Fletcher was playing on Kernahan in his first year and got towelled. He turned it around pretty quickly though but you are comparing two very different palyers.
 

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stander said:
Foji- He looked hopeless on Richardson and should have done better. Has looked confused all year, the coaches can take some of the blame. No doubt Ayres will have the tapes rolling and confuse him even more. If you are looking for a positive- Watson turned it around in year 4. Fletcher was playing on Kernahan in his first year and got towelled. He turned it around pretty quickly though but you are comparing two very different palyers.

How am I confusing anything? I am simply stating that you need to give key defenders time. I am not convinced he is going to make it but you're judgements are overly harsh and unfair. If Bradley is playing the same at 24 then you write him off but players like him need 6-7 years in the system. It is as simple as that.
 
stander said:
Bradley should have been studying Prestagiacomo yesterday- did not give Fevola an inch on the lead. Its called concentration and he can't handle it very well.


Presti has been playing how long???
Maybe you should have a shot at Johns for not matching Richo's effort as well:rolleyes:
 
Kepler may be able to shut down a computer but thats about it, certainly cannot shut down the hard working key forwards.

Unfortunately not the bloke for the job of Fletcher replacement at full back. Has talent, but his future is certainly as far away from opposition key forwards as possible.
 
Groater said:
Geez some of you are really harsh on the kid... I would love to have kepler in my team. He's in his second year of the system and has usually had to be played far deep in the backline, which is hard for any kid, especially when your team is in the bottom 2. You must remember that KPs take alot longer than midfielders to develop. McPhee is a good example of this, didn't do much at freo in his first couple of years, but then burst on to the stage with you guys. Don't be tempted to make harsh judgements on these kids. Especially when your team is performing badly. Remember the saints circa 2000-2002.

Well said, but I think this is Bradleys third year, but what you said still applies, hes played buggar all footy at this level.
Some people just think every young player needs to burst onto the AFL scene like Judd, but its not like that.
 
wazzabp said:
Well said, but I think this is Bradleys third year, but what you said still applies, hes played buggar all footy at this level.
Some people just think every young player needs to burst onto the AFL scene like Judd, but its not like that.

and many that do, fade away just as quickly

Keps needs time. As of right now, he ain't a centre half back. But with no centre half back in our squad, he's doing his best at the job. We would do better with McPhee standing the opposition Centre Half Forward, and Keps/Lee rotating through 3rd tall.
For anyone writing Keps off this quickly, remember Brisbane? Having free roam of the flanks he was electrifying. He's clearly a naturally talented player.
 
ant555 said:
Presti has been playing how long???
Maybe you should have a shot at Johns for not matching Richo's effort as well:rolleyes:

You miss the point again Ant robus, Bradley could learn a lot about concentrating on his man from someone like Prestagiacomo- it would help his game down back if they play him there occassionally. Have a shot at Johns yourself if you need to. His kicking has improved a lot incidentally.
 
stander said:
You miss the point again Ant robus, Bradley could learn a lot about concentrating on his man from someone like Prestagiacomo- it would help his game down back if they play him there occassionally. Have a shot at Johns yourself if you need to. His kicking has improved a lot incidentally.


I havnt missed the point at all , you expect a player who is under 21 to have the concentration of a wily vetran who has had a few years to work on it.
It is very doubtfull anyone could have kept Richo under 6 goals given the forward set up they had, there was more space than Pagans paddock to lead into. I think the kid did learn something because his comments after the related to how much more he needed to improve his fitness to go with guys like Richo (fatigue leads to lack of conentration).
And you missed the point with my Johns comment , i was implying that if Bradley should be as good as Presti then maybe Johns should be playing as well as Richo if you go by that theory. I dont have any problem with the way Johns is going.
 
I really do not understand why they didnt persist with Lee in the side and trying him at CHB instead of Kep. Here is a guy when given a chance looked a likely type at either end of the ground and we havent seen him since in the seniors.
 
ant555 said:
Presti has been playing how long???
Maybe you should have a shot at Johns for not matching Richo's effort as well:rolleyes:

Richo 200+ games....Johns 12 games

Although started in the forward line at the bounces he pushed up and played CHF/Wing most of the night and was invovled in alot of play, while not getting stacks of the ball he still racked up 15, kicked a goal, set up rioli....his field kicking has improved masively
 

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koc#41 said:
Richo 200+ games....Johns 12 games

Although started in the forward line at the bounces he pushed up and played CHF/Wing most of the night and was invovled in alot of play, while not getting stacks of the ball he still racked up 15, kicked a goal, set up rioli....his field kicking has improved masively


Dont people see the rolly eyes ???
I wasnt having a shot at Johns he is doing fine for a under 20 game player. I was simply saying in response to a commet that is Kep is expected to play as well as Presti then why wasnt Johns critisied for not playing as well as Richo. Same sort of comparison.
 
ant555 said:
I havnt missed the point at all , you expect a player who is under 21 to have the concentration of a wily vetran who has had a few years to work on it.
It is very doubtfull anyone could have kept Richo under 6 goals given the forward set up they had, there was more space than Pagans paddock to lead into. I think the kid did learn something because his comments after the related to how much more he needed to improve his fitness to go with guys like Richo (fatigue leads to lack of conentration).
And you missed the point with my Johns comment , i was implying that if Bradley should be as good as Presti then maybe Johns should be playing as well as Richo if you go by that theory. I dont have any problem with the way Johns is going.

Pointless response Ant robus, if he wanted to improve his game, he could take some time out and look at the way Presti wears an opponent, all day. He was also touted as being able to run all day when picked up in the draft, and that was three years ago. Johns is going quite well with his concentration by the way.
 
It would be pretty hard to learn from Presti when they play at opposite ends of the ground....he'll learn more about playing the position from a forward if anything.
 
stander said:
Pointless response Ant robus, if he wanted to improve his game, he could take some time out and look at the way Presti wears an opponent, all day. He was also touted as being able to run all day when picked up in the draft, and that was three years ago. Johns is going quite well with his concentration by the way.

Yes and im sure that he has never watched any tapes of how Presti or Mal Micheal or even Fletch plays.:rolleyes:
I am sure that no one could train you to do a perfect job at anything by showing you a few videos and then sending you straight into it. It is an art that is learnt by playing over a number of years. I can remember when Presti started and he wasnt an instant sucess.
I would say your argument is pointless , you are expecting a third year player to be able to show the skills of a 8 year plus vetran and for whatever reason you seem to think that because he has failed at it this year it is because he has not studied any other players. I am not sold on his ability to be a star backman, i think he will be a better ruckman to tell the truth but i dont expect him to be holding stars of the game when he has played only 40 odd games.
 

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