Keeping track of Hawthorn List numbers for 2021

[eldorado]

FINAL EDIT - Post rookie draft

Hawthorn 2020 list: 47 players

CHANGES - 11 Out
Stratton
Frawley
Puopolo
Henderson
Smith
Ross
Minchington
Glass
Golds
Jones
Walker


NEW ADDITIONS for 2021
Hartigan
Phillips
Grainger-Barass
Mitchell
Downie
Brockman
Saunders

1		Harry Morrison	12 Nov 98	21yr	182cm	73kg
2		Mitch Lewis	14 Oct 98	21yr	198cm	92kg
3		Tom Mitchell	31 May 93	26yr	181cm	83kg
4		Jarman Impey	9 Jul 95	24yr	178cm	76kg
5		James Worpel	24 Jan 99	21yr	185cm	86kg
6		James Sicily	6 Jan 95	25yr	186cm	77kg
7		Ben McEvoy	11 Jul 89	30yr	200cm	103kg
8		Sam Frost	28 Aug 93	26yr	194cm	88kg
9		Shaun Burgoyne	21 Oct 82	37yr	186cm	89kg
10		Jaeger O'Meara	23 Feb 94	26yr	182cm	82kg
11		Conor Nash	28 Jul 98	21yr	197cm	92kg
14		Jack Scrimshaw	4 Sep 98	21yr	193cm	80kg
15		Blake Hardwick	5 Feb 97	23yr	181cm	78kg
17		Daniel Howe	4 Dec 95	24yr	191cm	83kg
18		Jonathon Ceglar	14 Feb 91	29yr	204cm	94kg
19		Jack Gunston	16 Oct 91	28yr	193cm	84kg
20		Chad Wingard	29 Jul 93	26yr	181cm	81kg
21		Tom Scully	15 May 91	28yr	181cm	78kg
22		Luke Breust	11 Nov 90	29yr	184cm	84kg
23		Tim O'Brien	28 Mar 94	26yr	193cm	81kg
25		Jonathon Patton	20 May 93	26yr	197cm	100kg
26		Liam Shiels	29 Apr 91	28yr	183cm	84kg
27		Michael Hartley	7 Jun 93	26yr	199cm	100kg
30		Will Day	5 Jun 01	18yr	189cm	76kg
32		Finn Maginness	23 Feb 01	19yr	187cm	80kg
35		Josh Morris	7 Nov 01	18yr	186cm	76kg
39	r	Emerson Jeka	18 Sep 01	18yr	197cm	87kg
41		Ollie Hanrahan	27 Aug 98	21yr	183cm	74kg
42	b	Harrison Pepper	9 Aug 01	18yr	181cm	84kg
43	r	Ned Reeves	31 Oct 98	21yr	208cm	96kg
44	r	Damon Greaves	24 May 00	19yr	186cm	77kg
		Kyle Hartigan	7 Nov 91	19yr	194cm	96kg
		Tom Phillips	7 May 96	24yr	187cm	79kg
		Changkuoth Jiath	13 Jun 99	21yr	188cm	80kg
	r	Keegan Brooksby	27 Apr 90	30yr	197cm	99kg
		Jacob Koschitske	11 Jul 00	20yr	196cm	94kg
		Denver Grainger-Barass	17 Apr 02	18yr	195cm	78kg
		Seamus Mitchell	3 Jul 02	18yr	181cm	74kg
		Connor Downie	31 May 02	18yr	185cm	82kg
		Tyler Brockman	22 Nov 02	18yr	180cm	80kg
	r	Jack Saunders	11 Feb 02	18yr	177cm	73kg

Hawthorn 2021 List 43 players (36 senior, 6 CAT A rookies, 1 Cat B)

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

While Dixie has a locked thread for updatesI thought I would try to put something in concrete about our list for next year, get some idea of numbers, and ammend as updated by draft, DFA, recontracted players etc

Hawthorn 2020 list: 47 players

REMOVED FROM 2020 List (Retired/delisted/FA) 9 players

Stratton
Frawley
Puopolo
Henderson
Smith
Ross
Minchington
Glass
Golds

NOT YET DEFINITELY RECONTRACTED

Jiath (caveat: verbally confirmed by Wright, awaiting official news)
Kositscke (offered contract, no official news)
Jones
Walker
Brooksy
Moore

15 removed from 2020 list = 32 players from last year definitely playing again for Hawks next year

NEW ADDITIONS
Hartigan
Phillips


34 player currently DEFINITELY contracted for Hawthorn for 2021. MAX = 44

Therefore 10 spaces available for

Draft picks
DFA's
Recontracting uncontracted players (above in orange)


Feel free to correct wrong information, or to update with new info

So how many spots are available on the senior list? Excluding rookies

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Hawthorn has confirmed its list for 2021 this morning at 37 players signed to the list. Jiath has been elevated to the primary list while Brooksby has been retained on the rookie list. While it is unconfirmed that Koschitzke remains a Hawk for 2021, it would appear that he will be a Hawk, since 34+2 = 36.

Edited to add, it's also unclear whether Pepper is a rookie for 2021.

 

[eldorado]

Spreadsheet updated...

 

[arupist]

Spreadsheet updated...

You been sneaking around Tullamarine?

 

[eldorado]

You been sneaking around Tullamarine?

That would have been "spreadsheet deleted"

 

[MrPremiership]

1

Harry Morrison

12 Nov 98

21yr

182cm

73kg

2

Mitch Lewis

14 Oct 98

21yr

198cm

92kg

3

Tom Mitchell

31 May 93

26yr

181cm

83kg

4

Jarman Impey

9 Jul 95

24yr

178cm

76kg

5

James Worpel

24 Jan 99

21yr

185cm

86kg

6

James Sicily

6 Jan 95

25yr

186cm

77kg

7

Ben McEvoy

11 Jul 89

30yr

200cm

103kg

8

Sam Frost

28 Aug 93

26yr

194cm

88kg

9

Shaun Burgoyne

21 Oct 82

37yr

186cm

89kg

10

Jaeger O'Meara

23 Feb 94

26yr

182cm

82kg

11

Conor Nash

28 Jul 98

21yr

197cm

92kg

14

Jack Scrimshaw

4 Sep 98

21yr

193cm

80kg

15

Blake Hardwick

5 Feb 97

23yr

181cm

78kg

17

Daniel Howe

4 Dec 95

24yr

191cm

83kg

18

Jonathon Ceglar

14 Feb 91

29yr

204cm

94kg

19

Jack Gunston

16 Oct 91

28yr

193cm

84kg

20

Chad Wingard

29 Jul 93

26yr

181cm

81kg

21

Tom Scully

15 May 91

28yr

181cm

78kg

22

Luke Breust

11 Nov 90

29yr

184cm

84kg

23

Tim O'Brien

28 Mar 94

26yr

193cm

81kg

25

Jonathon Patton

20 May 93

26yr

197cm

100kg

26

Liam Shiels

29 Apr 91

28yr

183cm

84kg

27

Michael Hartley

7 Jun 93

26yr

199cm

100kg

30

Will Day

5 Jun 01

18yr

189cm

76kg

32

Finn Maginness

23 Feb 01

19yr

187cm

80kg

35

Josh Morris

7 Nov 01

18yr

186cm

76kg

39

r

Emerson Jeka

18 Sep 01

18yr

197cm

87kg

0

0

0

0

0

0

41

Ollie Hanrahan

27 Aug 98

21yr

183cm

74kg

9

7

0

7

3

0

42

b

Harrison Pepper

9 Aug 01

18yr

181cm

84kg

0

0

0

0

0

0

43

r

Ned Reeves

31 Oct 98

21yr

208cm

96kg

0

0

0

0

0

0

44

r

Damon Greaves

24 May 00

19yr

186cm

77kg

0

0

0

3

0

0

Kyle Hartigan

7 Nov 91

Tom Phillips

7 May 96

Changkuoth Jiath

r

Keegan Brooksby

Justin Koschitske

So currently:- (25/11/)

37 players
32 senior
5 rookie



We can add up to 6 to the senior list

For the whole list of 44, we can add up to 7.

recommitting to Moore means we've got 6 spots left right?

6 can be all senior listed, or we can add 5 plus 1 rookie

 

[eldorado]

recommitting to Moore means we've got 6 spots left right?

6 can be all senior listed, or we can add 5 plus 1 rookie

That's my reckoning

 

[eldorado]

Actually, unless we add another Cat B rookie, our maximum list size is 43

Senior plus Cat A maximum is 42, plus 2 Cat Bs allowed (Pepper)

If we take Moore as a rookie, we have room for 5.

All may be senior listed, or 4 seniors and 1 rookie

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Actually, unless we add another Cat B rookie, our maximum list size is 43

Senior plus Cat A maximum is 42, plus 2 Cat Bs allowed (Pepper)

If we take Moore as a rookie, we have room for 5.

All may be senior listed, or 4 seniors and 1 rookie

Doesn't Moore have to be Senior listed? I thought the list numbers were 36-38 Senior listed, 4 Cat a rookies max and 2 Cat B rookies max. Don't we have 4 Cat A rookies already and Moore cannot be Cat B rookie. Or if you take 1 less Senior spot, you are allowed 1 more Cat A rookie spot?

 

[eldorado]

Doesn't Moore have to be Senior listed? I thought the list numbers were 36-38 Senior listed, 4 Cat a rookies max and 2 Cat B rookies max. Don't we have 4 Cat A rookies already and Moore cannot be Cat B rookie. Or if you take 1 less Senior spot, you are allowed 1 more Cat A rookie spot?

This.
Senior and Cat A must total no more than 42, which can be 36+6, 37+5, or 38+4

 

[MrPremiership]

This.
Senior and Cat A must total no more than 42, which can be 36+6, 37+5, or 38+4

Perhaps we're upgrading one of our Cat A rookies to the senior list, then that frees up space to move Moore to the Rookie List?

Current Cat A rookies
Jeka
Greaves
Brooksby
Reeves

 

[Stratton24]

so we have 5 list spots

it can be 5 senior spots or 4 senior and 1 rookie we can also add 1 more cat B rookie

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

If we want to leave a spot open for the mid season draft, does it need to be on the senior list?

 

[ML4Hodgy]

If we want to leave a spot open for the mid season draft, does it need to be on the senior list?

In 2019, it was the ‘Mid Season Rookie Draft’ so I would imagine it would follow the same arrangement.
Space could also be available with someone (Sicily) on the LTI list - assuming the rules are the same.

 

[eldorado]

Updated 1/12

Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

24

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

added to list as rookie

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Updated 1/12

Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

24

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

added to list as rookie

Assume if Moore knocks it out of the park, then Siss goes on the LTI list and Moore gets upgraded?

 

[MrPremiership]

Assume if Moore knocks it out of the park, then Siss goes on the LTI list and Moore gets upgraded?

For what reason? Can't he play as a Cat A rookie anyway?

 

[eldorado]

Only Pepper needs an LTI to play...all CAT As can play.

 

[MrPremiership]

Only Pepper needs an LTI to play...all CAT As can play.

If we don't think Pepper is ready, can we use that potential LTI spot for another pick in the SSP or MSD?

 

[Stratton24]

Only Pepper needs an LTI to play...all CAT As can play.

Even cat b can now play seniors

 

[MrPremiership]

Even cat b can now play seniors

They couldn't in 2020.....has there been a recent change?

 

[Stratton24]

They couldn't in 2020.....has there been a recent change?

Maximum list sizes have dropped from 47 to 44 next season, inclusive of two Category B rookies who are now eligible to play as part of the revised Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Previously, Category B rookies needed to be upgraded in order to be selected to play AFL.

 

[eldorado]

Final list update now in the first post

43 players on our squad next year - 36 senior listed, 6 Cat A rookies, 1 Cat B

11 players gone from 2020, 7 new additions

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Final list update now in the first post

43 players on our squad next year - 36 senior listed, 6 Cat A rookies, 1 Cat B

11 players gone from 2020, 7 new additions

So do we have space for 1 more?