Current Keli Lane

Did Keli Lane get a fair trial?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • No

    Votes: 10 76.9%

  • Total voters
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sushshaf

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If Tegan is still alive, who is she? What is her name? Where does she live?

I don't think a reasonable person can honestly believe so many people close to Keli could not have possibly known she was pregnant. Something very sus going on there.

Her one minute pause in the police interview. WTF?

Teammates all choosing not to discuss anything to do with the matter. Sus.

Her defence team not choosing to discuss anything. This may mean they realise they didn't do a great job.

She's now saying it's possible "Andrew" gave her a false name, or she made a mistake with his surname. Please.

Even if "Andrew" gave her a fake name, or he's dead, or he handed Tegan over to a crime gang, what about his mother, or Mel? Surely they would come forward if Keli's story is true.

The nurse's notes saying 1400 hours. It's quite possible she wrote those notes at 1400 hours, a couple of hours after Keli left the hospital with Tegan.

The Coroner offering her immunity and Keli continuing to stick to her story - she is clearly hiding something, so why not speak up?

I agree with the Forensic Medical Officer's assessment that pyschologically Keli was a lot more stable during her sixth pregnancy than she was in the previous five pregnancies. The Paediatrician appeared to make a similar assessment. It's not unreasonable to form the view that she wasn't cut out to be a mother until she was in her late 80s.

Police should really look more in to Keli's call recordings in January/February 1997. Investigate each and every person she made contact with. If Keli is telling the truth, it's likely she was in contact with someone at around that time who knows more about Tegan. It would be a long and time consuming avenue of enquiry, but this must be done in a murder investigation. Get IPND records for each person who was in contact with Keli in those two months, and investigate each and every single contact.
 

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sushshaf

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Yeah that mother was exceptionally weird, defensive and vague.
Something has to be going on there.
Utter ******** she didnt know Keli was pregnant whilst being the team manager of her water polo team... three times! She is flat out lying there.
and the police actually captured a conversation between Keli and her mother Sandy. Sandy said something along the lines, well it is pretty unusual a young fella taking responsibility for a baby like that. I guess if that is what you told them, well then you did. Keli replied yeah I did.
 

sushshaf

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Exactly. Not sure what they could've done, if she denies.........

BUT society seems intent on keeping up with these social myth morals and fairytales and when the **** hits the fan people can't face reality and still cling. Part of why she got convicted. Well a mother doesn't act like that so Guilty. And yet no one knows what's happened.
I am so sick of the **** shaming that has gone on in this case.
 

sushshaf

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If he’d died he still would’ve been found.

Why would he give her a fake name?

He was around mates apparently. They called him Dipper. Where are his mates? His family?

A single soul?
Someone found a man called Paul Andrew Morris Dixon. He sort of looks like the identikit image that keli supplied. It isn't him. However, one thing that has bothered me is that liars always have a kernel of truth in their stories. There is obviously a father and maybe he is the one that took the baby. Until I saw this name it never occurred to me to think of Morris as a Christian and not a surname. If he has sold the child then he would have to have some criminal tendencies and having an alias is in line with that. Conmen are always conning.

There is the police interview where KL asks the police to turn off the recording. They refused. She then went on to say "I thought that this was just a custody issue" and "Andrew thought it was a good idea". What is that idea? Was it his idea to sell the baby? Did he convince her he was taking the baby and then actually sell it?
 

sushshaf

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As soon as Kelli gets confronted with a tough question, she reacts like a guilty person. I would love for the girl to be alive, but now I highly doubt it.

The 1 thing I just can't get passed is if she didnt kill the baby why is she lying about what she really did. What can be worse than murder.
If you go down a path for a long time and you have a partner in an act then that relationship might falter. The police work on this principle hoping for someone to turn on a person who committed an act. However, what would be the strongest bond that might never be broken? Perhaps between a parent and child? I think Sandy Lane is somehow involved. There are all sorts of charges that can be laid against people who did not come forward all through this time and wasted police time and money.
 

Kurve

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It's not over yet. I thought that Borovnik character was a bit off.

A cache of internal NSW Police reports about the controversial Keli Lane case reveals damning findings about a key prosecution witness and his history of serious complaints against the force.

The confidential police reports, seen by the ABC, were written several months before Lane’s 2010 murder trial began, but none were disclosed during the trial or included in the NSW Police Disclosure Certificate list of evidence.

In the most extraordinary revelation, multiple internal reports written by a senior detective found a key prosecution witness was “unreasonable” and “obsessive”, and that many of his theories about the case were baseless and “unreasonable”.

The ABC can reveal the identity of the key prosecution witness at the centre of the secret police reports is former NSW Department of Community Services (DoCS) child protection case worker John Borovnik.

 

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It's not over yet. I thought that Borovnik character was a bit off.


In the most extraordinary revelation, multiple internal reports written by a senior detective found a key prosecution witness was “unreasonable” and “obsessive”, and that many of his theories about the case were baseless and “unreasonable”.
Wonder what his BF user name is
 

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If you go down a path for a long time and you have a partner in an act then that relationship might falter. The police work on this principle hoping for someone to turn on a person who committed an act. However, what would be the strongest bond that might never be broken? Perhaps between a parent and child? I think Sandy Lane is somehow involved. There are all sorts of charges that can be laid against people who did not come forward all through this time and wasted police time and money.
Robert Lane has the strongest bond with Keli and would have the nerve, strength and invincibility to help "help her out". She would be able to say she didn't murder baby Tegan and gave him to her (Keli's or Tegans?) father and be telling the truth almost.

She would never tell the truth if this is the case as it would destroy him, his police reputation and therefore the family. I believe if Sandy (her mother) is involved it's only in an extremely passive way, in that she might suspect something.
 

BlueE

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While the most obvious mystery of the case relates to the last hours of Tegan's life, another is how Lane's father, a former police officer and trained observer of human nature, had no idea his daughter had given birth to Tegan and two other children - who were given up for adoption - while under his watchful eye.

On the day Keli was born Robert Lane was so thrilled he shouted the entire Steyne Hotel, and filled the hospital maternity ward with flowers.

Mr Lane was a permanent fixture alongside his daughter as revelations about her hidden pregnancies kept coming during the coronial inquest at Westmead Coroners Court in 2005. Regularly linking arms with his daughter or grasping her hand, he told the inquest he believed Tegan was alive.
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And yet police phone intercepts and interviews made public at Lane's trial demonstrate how terrified she was of him finding out about the pregnancies, the missing child and the police investigation - so much so that she feared he might take away the daughter she gave birth to in 2001 and kept.

In a 2004 police interview, Lane told detectives: ''There's no way, if my parents found out, that they'll let me keep her … You don't know my dad. Can you imagine what he will do?''


 

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Just watched the series on Netflix last night. Perplexingly i find her guilty, but of what was shown and the lack of body of the baby can't understand how she could be found guilty. The case went for six months so there tustve been some big evidence pushed both sides.
 

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I just thought of this for some reason. Boy oh boy did this just go cold. Caro Meldrum Hanna and Elise Worthington closed the Facebook group giving some vague “we’ll focus on other angles and projects” rubbish.

And that’s it. Clearly they didn’t find anything.
They seemed certain that they had links that led somewhere, closing the group was clearly to preserve their integrity somewhat.
 

Kurve

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I just thought of this for some reason. Boy oh boy did this just go cold. Caro Meldrum Hanna and Elise Worthington closed the Facebook group giving some vague “we’ll focus on other angles and projects” rubbish.

And that’s it. Clearly they didn’t find anything.
They came up with absolutely nothing that could be used after all that effort and really upset Nicholas Cowdery.

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Bunk Moreland

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I think you see that late in episode three that she's been stitched up an absolute treat when they couldnt even pin down andrew morris/norris.
Upon further reading I found that police established Keli had had a (single) one night stand with a bloke named Andrew Morris. Some eighteen months before Tegan was conceived.

It’s clearly a name Keli has come out with when questioned.
 

Kurve

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CMH genuinely got taken in by her I reckon. Another victim of the con(wo)man Lane.
It's really awful. I didn't want to think she'd killed her baby.

If she was quietly offered a retrial, that might have put her right back in her box because I think she'd be mad to risk getting more time than the minimum 15 years she got. She only has four more years to go iirc but after this she could have trouble getting parole.
 

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Upon further reading I found that police established Keli had had a (single) one night stand with a bloke named Andrew Morris. Some eighteen months before Tegan was conceived.

It’s clearly a name Keli has come out with when questioned.
Where did you read this? Exposed and a few other snippets I have seen mentioned Police weren't able to confirm an Andrew Morris existed. Plus, Keli didn't even know his correct name, which makes it seem like Norris/Morris never existed.
 

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Where did you read this? Exposed and a few other snippets I have seen mentioned Police weren't able to confirm an Andrew Morris existed. Plus, Keli didn't even know his correct name, which makes it seem like Norris/Morris never existed.

Homicide Squad detectives discovered there was a real Andrew Morris in Keli Lane’s life but he was certainly not Tegan’s father.

He was a student who met Lane on the weekend of June 25 and 26 1994 after he took part in the Kellogg’s Nutrigrain Australian Rescue Champions at Sydney’s Freshwater beach.

Both in their early 20s, Lane and Mr Morris met at the Sands Hotel at Narrabeen and had unprotected sex on the grass behind the beach near Narrabeen Caravan Park.

It was 18 months before Tegan Lane was even conceived in December 1995.

Mr Morris has since married and had a child — but it is not Tegan.

The existence of the real Andrew Morris was disclosed at Keli Lane’s trial in 2009 but Mr Morris was not called to give evidence at the trial for reasons that involved legal technicalities.

The prosecution alleged that Lane had used his name as she did in so many of her lies, to give them a kernel of truth.

He came from Woolgoolga on the state’s north coast, was a student at Newcastle University and never lived in Wisbeach Street.
So yeah, Andrew Morris existed. This Andrew Morris. He met Lane once, they had sex and that was the end of it. It’s been established. It was 18 months prior to Tegan being conceived.

The man in Lane’s story that she called Andrew Morris doesn’t exist. She made it up. My money would be on her not even knowing who the father was.
 
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So yeah, Andrew Morris existed. This Andrew Morris. He met Lane once, they had sex and that was the end of it. It’s been established. It was 18 months prior to Tegan being conceived.

The man in Lane’s story that she called Andrew Morris doesn’t exist. She made it up. My money would be on her not even knowing who the father was.
I had read that article at around the time Exposed came out, but I had obviously forgotten all about it.

Cheers for that
 

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