KELLY TRADE

[chaddy22]

I'm a little fed up with people always blaming [PLAYERCARDTtim Kelly[/PLAYERCARD] for the position we find us in.We are in this position due to Rohan O'brien.Remember we could have got Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

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9.8

2star

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6.6

3star

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3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

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2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

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D

8.6

3star

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5.8

3star

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2.8

3star

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3.8

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2.0

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1.2

4star

the Larke medalist with our first pick but instead we got Brander.We didn't need two tall forwards and he overestimated Branders ability and underated Allen's ability.Had we drafted Allen with our first pick and Kelly with our second pick we would have a better list because we wouldn't have given away good picks to get Kelly back..I can't wait for O'brien to move on.

 

[Shifty1]

I'm a little fed up with people always blaming [PLAYERCARDTtim Kelly for the position we find us in.We are in this position due to Rohan O'brien.Remember we could have got Oscar Allen the Larke medalist with our first pick but instead we got Brander.We didn't need two tall forwards and he overestimated Branders ability and underated Allen's ability.Had we drafted Allen with our first pick and Kelly with our second pick we would have a better list because we wouldn't have given away good picks to get Kelly back..I can't wait for O'brien to move on.

It's not only that draft. Kelly and Ryan could have been had for virtually nothing the year before.

 

[WCE_Phill]

Its inability to find midfielder in the 2nd and 3rd round

 

[Doashuey]

Subscribed. Never seen this discussion on BF before, can't wait to hear others opinions on the Kelly trade.

 

[Matsu]

Paid through the teeth for a mid-tier midfielder who doesn't mind a trip to the butcher's shop, plays the odd A grade game.

 

[Shaz from Karratha]

I can't wait for O'brien to move on.

He's leaving this year.

 

[Cuzz09]

uggh this again.

Trades done.

Let's live with it.

 

[Wet Toast Rule]

OP is spot on, we all know it.

Re: the Mid season draft, can somebody educate me on how it works? any idea if we get pick 1 if we are bottom?

Also, do we have a list space to pick up a Kelly or Marlion Pickett

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Marlion Pickett

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32

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184cm

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83kg

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13.0

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7.5

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5.5

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2.4

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3.3

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1.5

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11.7

3star

K

6.7

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5.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

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3.6

4star

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1.3

4star

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12.8

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7.2

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5.6

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1.8

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3.2

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1.6

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type in the mid season draft - ie do we have to put somebody else on the Inactive list?

Is everybody available for the MSD or only players that nominate?

 

[amazingjoshy]

It wasn't a great trade, but to blame our current situation on that one trade is so delusional it's laughable.

There's far more wrong with this club at the moment than one trade 3 years ago

 

[larrikin]

We are devoid of young superstar mids, that is true.

We were never getting them (as obvious picks) with the picks we gave up for Kelly given our finishing positions (and penchant for HBF's).

In summary

• Did we play overs? Probably.
• Is it Kelly's fault? Hell no.
• Did it kill the club? Yeah, nah.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

It was a shot at another flag.

It didn’t pay off.

For * sake move on.

 

[kranky al]

It was a shot at another flag.

It didn’t pay off.

For fu** sake move on.

Its more that its taken so long to realise.

We should have done a mini rebuild, and been up to challenge again whilst nn, mcgov, kelly, yeo, darling were still able to contribute.

 

[WCErevival]

We won a flag and identified the area of the ground we needed to strengthen to help us win another one. So we traded in Kelly who was a star mid at the time. As if we would have done a rebuild only a year out from winning a premiership.

 

[Flarn Rarn]

Pretty obvious that it hasn't been worth it to this point and, given what our next few years look like currently, won't end up being worth it either. That said, not sure what more value there is in this topic. We took a gamble and it didn't pay off. They don't all end up paying off. Kelly himself hasn't done anything wrong.

We need to spend our efforts thinking how and where we're going to get our next crop than crying over spilt milk.

 

[squashface]

You know I was just thinking, we don't have enough list management threads on this board.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Important thing is that we try not to repeat the mistakes of the past, or we should at least make sure that the player that we're trading a high number of picks for is a safer bet.
TK was a barely established 2nd year player who was the 4th or 5th best(?) mid at Geelong and whose value was inflated by an AA spot and a top 5 Brownlow finish.

 

[southcoast]

TK was a barely established 2nd year player who was the 4th or 5th best(?) mid at Geelong and whose value was inflated by an AA spot and a top 5 Brownlow finish.

You could almost say ‘Des Hedland’

 

[larrikin]

Important thing is that we try not to repeat the mistakes of the past, or we should at least make sure that the player that we're trading a high number of picks for is a safer bet.
TK was a barely established 2nd year player who was the 4th or 5th best(?) mid at Geelong and whose value was inflated by an AA spot and a top 5 Brownlow finish.

The fact he got an AA spot and was 5th in the Brownlow is probably a clue he wasn't their 4th or 5th best mid.

 

[Cuzz09]

You could almost say ‘Des Hedland’

I came on to say this.

He is clearly a better player in a good midfield not good enough to be "the man"

Not his fault just hasnt got it.

I think if we can get 5 or so more years of decent games we'll end up being half happy.

If he ends his career with us in a finals/flag side we'll look more favourably at the trade (particularly if the picks recieved for him are a flop)

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

The fact he got an AA spot and was 5th in the Brownlow is probably a clue he wasn't their 4th or 5th best mid.

So he was their 2nd best after Paddy then?

 

[Cuzz09]

If we had a Danger and selwood type then Im sure Kelly could do his stuff better.

Our mids are ALL old slow and injured and have ZERO x factor

 

[DirtySandman]

Kelly like almost the whole squad has gone backwards. Maybe it’s us.

imagine if we didn’t go for the trade, and he was still playing well at Geelong, we stuffed up with our drafts picks.

it’d be ‘the flags that got away’

 

[Cuzz09]

Kelly like almost the whole squad has gone backwards. Maybe it’s us.

imagine if we didn’t go for the trade, and he was still playing well at Geelong, we stuffed up with our drafts picks.

it’d be ‘the flags that got away’

1000000% this.

We would all be going mental if we didnt get Kelly and he was a Geelong Premiership player (who knows if he couldve been the difference in 2020 for them v Rich @ Gabba?)

The whole things a lottery. Its hard to win div 1 but we need to be happy with making small profits every now n then

 

[KERRPOW]

It was a shot at another flag.

It didn’t pay off.

For fu** sake move on.

Exactly. I cant even remember what we gave up for him 3 late first rounders?

Unlikely our recruiters would be able to identify a decent mid if it was staring them in the face anyway.

Kelly isnt the issue.