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That said I believe he has an excellent tank, good agility and a strong mark. Add some more weight and he could become a very good option.
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Definitely doesn't help that he lives with Jobe Watson.
He's playing good football at the moment, but if Hurley is fit, and they intend to play Daniher this year, someone needs to come out, and as long as he remains out of contract at the end of the season I remain hopeful.
paul8241
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Disposable footballers are disposable.
Sometimes you do throw something out that hasn't quite reached use by, or you think back and say, "damned, that would be useful right now".
I generally agree with you & know nothing about Lucas Cook, but young players that seem mediocre after a period of training with Trainwreck FC aren't necessarily that bad. Maybe some of the players on their list can be re-invented / rediscover their mojos at proper football clubs (just like when players such as Peter Bell left Freo in the old days to become stars at other clubs).
By this rationale, I really hope we have a serious look at recruiting Jack Watts - the guy was on nearly every club (that wasn't looking for ruckman) shopping list in his draft year and is 196cm.
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Pears is the same height and weight as Luke McPharlin.
Definitely agree that it's a risk, but so is any draft pick. Both would have been instant inclusions to our side last week.
paul8241
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Yeah, saw that, that's why I'm not as quick to dismiss him as an option.
paul8241
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If Gumbleton gets dropped to make way for youth while he is still performing really well, he'll feel his debt is paid and its time to return to WA.
I still don't like it (not that that matters to anyone except me, I realise). The bolded are definite positives, and I wasn't aware that he'd played a lot of junior footy as a KPP.
To me, the biggest selling point of that lot is the knee.
If we could get that sorted out, imagine how much more dangerous a match-up he'd be in the midfield (where the game is won, and all that). Pace, height, explosive, great tank, can drift forward and kick goals. Honestly, that gets me frothing much more than having him down forward.
Still reckon we're better served by actually drafting a good KPF prospect, trading one in or bringing in a solid KPF from a state league than taking Mora out of our midfield and running him as our CHF. As for who is out there, I couldn't tell you. I watch a bit of WAFL on FTA but none of the other state comps (and no TAC etc).
Melbourne have also gone for the quick fix ala Clark, Dawes, Pederson, Gillies and know they have enough early draft picks to get top quality talls in the draft for the future. Don't know if Lucas Cook will be any good, but his early delisting from Melbourne may not tell the whole story imo.
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I understand that. However, I think the club has moved on from drafting recycled players from the football scrapheap. Especially in regards to KPP's.
We are looking for proven quality now, hence our red-hot go for Travis Cloke last year.
Tayte is 191 or 192 depending where you look. Luke is 193cm. Weight may be similar. From memory, Pears played a lot of FB before all of his injuries, and he's undersized for that job these days. He may now be playing as a CHB or third tall in the VFL.
Silvagni has very similiar dimensions to Pears, and would have been our instant inclusion if he hadn't done his ankle. We're developing a little bit of depth in KPD's. The back-ups all have their weaknesses, but our forward line is REALLY short of KPF options.
That's my point. I'd rather lose the first rounder to get us a KPF (which is what we really need) rather than further KPD support and a KPF that has struggled to get on the park for about 6 years.
EDIT: Luke is 192 or 193 depending on where you look. Both guys are 192 based on their club stats, so fair enough if you call them the same. As for Pears, I'd only be interested if he was brought in as a CHB. Would still much rather our first rounder end up getting us a KPF though.
Gumbleton and Pears would be very nice.
They're both considered second string due to injury and Hurley and Crameri up front and Hooker and Carlisle down back. I could see both playing no more than 6-8 games for they year.
They're both very capable and would slot in very nice for us.
I'd be all over them like a rash, if Gumby's body goes through the year.
In terms of Gumbleton, once Daniher hits his straps, he's surplus to requirements
They're both considered second string due to injury and Hurley and Crameri up front and Hooker and Carlisle down back. I could see both playing no more than 6-8 games for they year.
They're both very capable and would slot in very nice for us.
I'd be all over them like a rash, if Gumby's body goes through the year.
In terms of Gumbleton, once Daniher hits his straps, he's surplus to requirements
The Player that i believe would really "FIT' Fremantles needs would be Shaun McKernan
Touted as a 1st round selection in his draft year with 3-4 years development , Certainly talented but to me looks like the type of player that needs to be the #1 Foward in the team to become the player he could be.
196-197 cm
100kg's
22 year old
Touted as a 1st round selection in his draft year with 3-4 years development , Certainly talented but to me looks like the type of player that needs to be the #1 Foward in the team to become the player he could be.
196-197 cm
100kg's
22 year old
paul8241
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Tarrant and Croad were both proven as well. Both chasing money, both returned to their original clubs.
Recycling can still provide some amazing results. A year is a long time out of the system for Lucas, may be the turning point for him, make or break. The important thing for Lucas is that his high pick reputation counts for nothing and he has it all to prove.
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I like it. Also Everett from the Swans about the same height weight age etc plus has shown a bit and finding it hard to get a gig
PS thanks for the input nice stuff from an opposition supporter
They're both 192 according to the official website.
Pears has MUCH better disposal than Silvagni
whiteoak
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But Croad was consistently played out of position by Cuddles. Went back to Hawthorn and became the AA CHB that we should have been playing.
Tarrant did ok when Harvey turned him around.
The problem with both of them was that neither really wanted to come to us in the first place.
I'm very sure that we've learnt from those mistakes.
Yeah, saw that just then. Tacked this onto the last post a few minutes ago.
"EDIT: Luke is 192 or 193 depending on where you look. Both guys are 192 based on their club stats, so fair enough if you call them the same. As for Pears, I'd only be interested if he was brought in as a CHB. Would still much rather our first rounder end up getting us a KPF though."
My real point was that trading our first rounder (plus whatever) should get someone we really need. To me that's a KPF. I know Gumby is a KPF, but I don't think there's any way we'd be crazy enough to exchange a first round pick for Gumby. I know about the talent and the attitude - big ticks there - it's all about his durability.
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Its still early days, but I think the club was right not going after Tom Lee last year. 2 games for 1 goal and has not looked too impressive so far.
Have thought the same. McInnes would be the one I'd most be interested in. All WA boys as well.
paul8241
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So the questions we need to ask of these proven quality KPP's is. Do you want to play for us? Why?
Start from there, if we can't get established we go to the draft or try something recycled.
Croad didn't want to leave the Hawks (and the Hawks didn't really want to trade him) but the Hawks traded him because they wanted Hodge or Judd. The Hawks got Croad back as soon as they could.
Tarrant had no interest in coming to Freo (Collingwood wanted to trade him) but Scwabby talked him into it. Collingwood took him back because Harvey managed to turn him into a good defender.
Have no problem bringing established players into the club as long as they want to be here. ala D Pearce.
I like it. Also Everett from the Swans about the same height weight age etc plus has shown a bit and finding it hard to get a gig
PS thanks for the input nice stuff from an opposition supporter
Everett -------- I dont really rate tbh
Bulldogs were really short on KPF and he never really displayed any talent for them to hold on to him & he has been at sydney now for 2 years and barely best 30-35.
2 Players that i do rate at Tigerland that would be ideal fit for you guys but i really would hate to see it happen is
David Astbury 195-196 96kg CHF thats being played as a swingman/Backman and my opinion is a natural foward with very very good footy smarts (being wasted in the attempt to re discover the wheel) he was so well regarded that was given the famous richo's #12
Ben Griffiths 199cm 100kgs CHF/FF - Described by shifter sheehan as the next big foward and went as far as to liken him to Plugger Lockett during the draft - Again we are trying to turn another natural foward into a monster backman
Ben is extremely quick and has a massive 70mtr kick thats deadly accurate
Both Player show the ability to become very very good players but with Jack Riewoldt & Tyrone Vickery taking up the 1st & 2nd tall foward options & Luke McGune having a 2nd coming and doing well seem to be left at coburg atm.
Pretty sure both players are highly rated and under contract Atm but you never know Freo might have players that we need that could be a win/win trade - Our needs would be Skilled speedy inside/outside mids to compliment our developing midfield
Before i get my head taken off with the names im going to mention its only the types that i believe we need
Morabito / Hill
