FyfesBoot
Cancelled
Sounds like the standard groom's prenup.
-
Mobile App Discontinued
Due to a number of factors, support for the current BigFooty mobile app has been discontinued. Your BigFooty login will no longer work on the Tapatalk or the BigFooty App - which is based on Tapatalk.
Apologies for any inconvenience. We will try to find a replacement.
Key Forward
- Thread starter Kunna17
- Start date
- Tagged users None
🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.
Wouldn't be surprised if we traded for picks this year. We are approaching/very close to the beginning of the "window" and we have a number of talented young players in the wings and on the field. At this stage, wouldn't be fussed trading a first round/+ second round for a Jesse White. Remember, we still are struggling to get all of Neale, Sheridan, Crozier and Sutcliffe on the field, let alone Mora, Mitchie and Simpson. KPF and KPB are where it's at and we don't want to wait 3 or 4 years for them to bulk up and adjust to AFL. We already have Tanner, Hannath, Moller, Taberner, Forster and Howsen doing that. Hawks traded in Hale, Gibson and Lake to boost their KP stocks in their window which has been working for them. Anyways, we are pretty good at finding gems in the rookie draft
I would not be happy with this at all. Jesse White is ok but he is very inconsistent.
Log in to remove this Banner Ad
- Aug 20, 2010
- 19,384
- 26,502
- AFL Club
- Fremantle
Don't agree with the value but agree with the sentiment. Should definitely considering trading some picks this trade period for a player or two.
not much available as Free Agents, except Buddy - and it seems he may be off to GWS.nEVER know might get lucky in free lancing player
arrow_dactyl
Senior List
- Aug 26, 2013
- 228
- 175
- AFL Club
- Fremantle
Do you have any players currently in mind?
- May 3, 2007
- 43,131
- 25,392
- AFL Club
- Fremantle
- Other Teams
- Man City, Valencia, Lazio, Panthers
Noticed this little story on the AFL website today: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-11/roos-set-for-hogan-talks
So let me get this right - Melbourne feel the need to make overtures to a young rookie, sending messiah Paul Roos to ask Hogan to stay at their club before he has played a regulation game, not withstanding he is already signed up & committed for another 2 seasons. Why would they need to that?
This story seems to add weight to 'homesickness' rumours, which as we all know is a standard excuse young players make when they do not want to be at a particular club & just want to be traded.
If, following my line of conjecture, young Hogan did want to be traded out of Melbourne, it would seem a fair assumption his preference would be to go to a Perth based club, given that he seems to always be over here. If it was a Perth based club, I'd say Freo would be the club most likely given the respective list structures of WCE & Freo.
Or maybe I'm just reading too much into all of this? (I know that if I want it hard enough, the universe might make it happen).
So let me get this right - Melbourne feel the need to make overtures to a young rookie, sending messiah Paul Roos to ask Hogan to stay at their club before he has played a regulation game, not withstanding he is already signed up & committed for another 2 seasons. Why would they need to that?
This story seems to add weight to 'homesickness' rumours, which as we all know is a standard excuse young players make when they do not want to be at a particular club & just want to be traded.
If, following my line of conjecture, young Hogan did want to be traded out of Melbourne, it would seem a fair assumption his preference would be to go to a Perth based club, given that he seems to always be over here. If it was a Perth based club, I'd say Freo would be the club most likely given the respective list structures of WCE & Freo.
Or maybe I'm just reading too much into all of this? (I know that if I want it hard enough, the universe might make it happen).
- Feb 5, 2011
- 4,449
- 4,979
- AFL Club
- Fremantle
Doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, 2 years is a long time away.
True.
But it would make it more difficult to plan Melbourne's recruiting strategy over the next 2 years if their star KPF recruit might walk at the end of 2 years.
If I was a Melbourne list manager, I might take the "bird in the hand" view & trade him now & get some real value out of him.
With the exception of Fyfe & maybe Hill, I'd be offering any one of our starting mids (Mundy or Barlow included) for his signature, OR a combination of up & coming 2nd tier players of Sheridan / Crozier / Michie ilk.
But it would make it more difficult to plan Melbourne's recruiting strategy over the next 2 years if their star KPF recruit might walk at the end of 2 years.
If I was a Melbourne list manager, I might take the "bird in the hand" view & trade him now & get some real value out of him.
With the exception of Fyfe & maybe Hill, I'd be offering any one of our starting mids (Mundy or Barlow included) for his signature, OR a combination of up & coming 2nd tier players of Sheridan / Crozier / Michie ilk.
Realistically, if it was a trade to WA he was after - Freo would not be offering up any star players from our midfield. It goes against Lyon's ultimate goal for coming here, and that is to bring the club premierships. The club would not trade members of a potentially premiership winning midfield, let alone jeopardise the future of our club on a kid who hasn't played a game. It's definitely not Ross's style.
We also won't have a pick greater than 15 odd so Melb wouldn't go for anything from a Pick trade POV. He'd be going to WCE, of which have an abundant supply tall forwards already. This discussion isn't worth dissecting for at least another year, maybe 2. Anything can happen before then. Just because they're homesick before having played a game - doesn't mean they'll be homesick after a season. Bradley Hill being a good example of that.
The only way I can see us getting close this year is by Melbourne getting a priority pick and have decided to take Boyd with there first pick. Even then, we would need to offer something like 1st round pick, Michie, Mellington, and Crozier - which is a lot to give up for one player.
If he doesnt sign a new contract next year, then we may have half a chance.
I don't think the list structures of West Coast and Freo would matter for a player like Jesse Hogan. The guy is just so highly rated that even if West Coast don't need a kpf they'd still want him IMO. It'd take a ridiculous amount of both coin and draft picks/players etc to get a player like Hogan. It's something we won't have for the next 3-4 years (I would hope anyway) If we finish where we would expect to over the next two years we simply will not even be close to getting him and to add to this west coast look like they will be lower on the ladder than us in that period, meaning threats of walking into the draft are pointless.
What I'm saying is, it's alright to dream and stuff but unless we want to give up a Hill or a Clarke or a Fyfe, Hogan will never play for this footy club.
- May 3, 2007
- 43,131
- 25,392
- AFL Club
- Fremantle
- Other Teams
- Man City, Valencia, Lazio, Panthers
I rather stick to the easy option and use pick 15 to get the best Available forward.
Keep it simple for sure,unless the lad(hogan) is totally over being at that pathetic club.
🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.
Even in the worst case scenario this season results wise I'd say our pick will probably be around 16-18. There will be a few compensation picks to make up for the fact Adelaide and Essendon are not part of the draft this year. Anyone know which compensation picks have already been activated? Pretty sure Gws are suing one that they traded in from someone else
Nothing
Brownlow Medallist
- Jul 30, 2009
- 14,650
- 23,992
- AFL Club
- Fremantle
Giants have 1 mid first round pick activated, Suns an end of 1st round pick. with no Adelaide and Essendon in the first round the premier will get pick 17.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-19/giants-suns-to-activate-picks
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-19/giants-suns-to-activate-picks
Interesting... I bet WCE wished they nominated to use their 3rd rd compo pick this year in light of the mass retirements even before the player reviews, they're set for a big draft year in which they'd have certainly put it to good use. Sucks to be them.
On the subject of Key Forward;
I wonder if we could be better off going for much more mobile talls in the forward line, rather than hulking gorillas. I am talking about players along the lines of Fyfe, Morabitto etc, but with more of a forward focus. A little taller than Mayne, a lot more nimble than Cloke.
My theory is this; unless the gorillas are genuinely good (which we are unlikely to get at our selections), then their production is pretty average. No problem with average by the way, but we just saw Geelong get punished for a gameplan built around kick it long to the big guy. I am suggesting a forward line with players like Marsh, Mayne, Morabitto alongside someone like Taberner and a ruck. Those guys pushing up the ground and turning their opponents could be pretty interesting.
The other thing is that a lot of defences now do not have match-ups for that kind of set-up.
I wonder if we could be better off going for much more mobile talls in the forward line, rather than hulking gorillas. I am talking about players along the lines of Fyfe, Morabitto etc, but with more of a forward focus. A little taller than Mayne, a lot more nimble than Cloke.
My theory is this; unless the gorillas are genuinely good (which we are unlikely to get at our selections), then their production is pretty average. No problem with average by the way, but we just saw Geelong get punished for a gameplan built around kick it long to the big guy. I am suggesting a forward line with players like Marsh, Mayne, Morabitto alongside someone like Taberner and a ruck. Those guys pushing up the ground and turning their opponents could be pretty interesting.
The other thing is that a lot of defences now do not have match-ups for that kind of set-up.
Next years draft is reportedly much better isn't it? And this year it sounds like a lot of reasonable midfielders going quite deep. Either way, they can trade the compo pick.
JungleMuffinFTW
Senior List
- Aug 1, 2013
- 178
- 118
- AFL Club
- Fremantle
Darling is handy, and Hill's performances haven't matched his hype so far (he's about to go boom but, I'm expecting Dennis to bust out a "Hill, streaming down the wing, sets sail for home" on GF day if we make it
)... but seriously Hase, you are dead to me.
